Olympic Stadium; our day in court
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Went last night as curious to see it all, as previously pointed out they make you walk a ruddy long way when you come out of Stratford Station, no idea how they are going to stop trouble at the big games as the route is going to be hard to police. Decent enough view for my £10, but I can see the novelty of quereing to get back into Stratford (akin to Wembley) after every game wearing off quickly.2
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Everybody will just have to learn to leave early, particularly at night gamesAfternoon Delight said:Went last night as curious to see it all, as previously pointed out they make you walk a ruddy long way when you come out of Stratford Station, no idea how they are going to stop trouble at the big games as the route is going to be hard to police. Decent enough view for my £10, but I can see the novelty of quereing to get back into Stratford (akin to Wembley) after every game wearing off quickly.
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Of course the real test will be when games clash with Christmas shopping and the January sales.letthegoodtimesroll said:
Everybody will just have to learn to leave early, particularly at night gamesAfternoon Delight said:Went last night as curious to see it all, as previously pointed out they make you walk a ruddy long way when you come out of Stratford Station, no idea how they are going to stop trouble at the big games as the route is going to be hard to police. Decent enough view for my £10, but I can see the novelty of quereing to get back into Stratford (akin to Wembley) after every game wearing off quickly.
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It'll be interesting when they play Spurs...or draw Millwall in the FA Cup! For non London away teams, have they worked out an area for away coaches to park giving an easy entrance to the away section?Afternoon Delight said:Went last night as curious to see it all, as previously pointed out they make you walk a ruddy long way when you come out of Stratford Station, no idea how they are going to stop trouble at the big games as the route is going to be hard to police. Decent enough view for my £10, but I can see the novelty of quereing to get back into Stratford (akin to Wembley) after every game wearing off quickly.
Talking of which, it seems there was no segregation last night, and even on Sunday, fans were being sent through "the wrong areas" to get to their seat.0 -
The whole Westfield security issue is a big deal. As we now know, West Ham don't have to pay police costs, they are paid by E20. In all other clubs cases it is a big fight to define the relevant footprint around the ground that the club pay for. Mick Everitt described for me how much hard work and negotiation that was. Things got a bit easier for the clubs after a High Court ruling in 2012, which said that basically the police can only charge clubs for land belonging to the club.
However we know that in the contract, the entire island park is already considered the "footprint". Based on what Arsenal paid before the High Cour ruling,, that alone will cost around £1m a year. Yet I have seen an FOI that says E20 have budgetted for half that amount. The Met however are extremely worried about Westfield, will want to secure it for big games, and doubtless will lobby hard to be allowed to reclaim those costs. They won't be able to reclaim them from West Ham, not in the contract, guv. So it will be E20 (us). And E20 don't have a Mick Everitt type, knowledgeable and dogged, who can negotiate hard.
Oh and another FOI says both Man City and Man U are paying close on a million a year still now, despite the High Court ruling. They may not yet be aware that West Ham aren't paying anything. Naturally, we plan to enlighten them.
That's the situation as we now know it, but we are doing lots more research.
Personally I think the police clause in the contract was the one that they wanted to keep secret above all. It is a monumental cock up, not to make West Ham pay for it, but all those smartasses at Eversheds and KPMG et al don't know jack about police football costs. I think belatedly they realised what a giveaway they had made, and tried everything they can to cover it up.7 -
For all the uproar about the way west ham secured the stadium at our expense and the fear from many Charlton fans that this could entice support away and future generations of support will be lost....it's good to see so many Charlton fans making a stand and not lining the pockets of west ham.
Oh wait, no, it seems there's more Charlton going to East London than will be at The Valley next!22 -
Cheeky scamp. Ain't you got a match ball to sell?Sparrows Lane Lion said:For all the uproar about the way west ham secured the stadium at our expense and the fear from many Charlton fans that this could entice support away and future generations of support will be lost....it's good to see so many Charlton fans making a stand and not lining the pockets of west ham.
Oh wait, no, it seems there's more Charlton going to East London than will be at The Valley next!4 -
Wouldn't sell a match ball. Great piece of memorabiliasoapy_jones said:
Cheeky scamp. Ain't you got a match ball to sell?Sparrows Lane Lion said:For all the uproar about the way west ham secured the stadium at our expense and the fear from many Charlton fans that this could entice support away and future generations of support will be lost....it's good to see so many Charlton fans making a stand and not lining the pockets of west ham.
Oh wait, no, it seems there's more Charlton going to East London than will be at The Valley next!0 -
I think I read a recent story about a Millwall supporter being taken to task for stealing the match ball.
I actually thought it was a shame.
If the ball goes into the crowd it seems like fair game, even though it is wrong.
SLL, was that you? Trying to add to your memorabilia collection?0 -
I would like to gently remind SLL that only one Supporters Trust in London failed to join the Olympic Stadium Coalition.
But, as I said to the Information Tribunal judges, given that it was Millwall, it was probably simply due to reading and writing issues.11 -
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Surely there is a simple way to divert fans away and secure the security of Westfield Shopping Centre.
West Ham only need to ask for the line to be extended and their own station built adjacent to the ground’s entrance. To encourage them to put in the request, the station could be decked out in claret and blue and incorporate a statue of the three West Ham heroes Gold, Sullivan and Brady.
I mean, we taxpayers may as well finish the job properly, now we’ve started.3 -
Harsh...but funnySparrows Lane Lion said:For all the uproar about the way west ham secured the stadium at our expense and the fear from many Charlton fans that this could entice support away and future generations of support will be lost....it's good to see so many Charlton fans making a stand and not lining the pockets of west ham.
Oh wait, no, it seems there's more Charlton going to East London than will be at The Valley next!
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And true.killerandflash said:
Harsh...but funnySparrows Lane Lion said:For all the uproar about the way west ham secured the stadium at our expense and the fear from many Charlton fans that this could entice support away and future generations of support will be lost....it's good to see so many Charlton fans making a stand and not lining the pockets of west ham.
Oh wait, no, it seems there's more Charlton going to East London than will be at The Valley next!
Can't believe the number on here saying they've been.
Hoping it's a one off.
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Of course it is.WSS said:
And true.killerandflash said:
Harsh...but funnySparrows Lane Lion said:For all the uproar about the way west ham secured the stadium at our expense and the fear from many Charlton fans that this could entice support away and future generations of support will be lost....it's good to see so many Charlton fans making a stand and not lining the pockets of west ham.
Oh wait, no, it seems there's more Charlton going to East London than will be at The Valley next!
Can't believe the number on here saying they've been.
Hoping it's a one off.
There may be those casual fans that are tempted by it but none of those that post on here fall into that category.
Paid a negligible amount to go and see what a stadium I've already been to is like as a football ground and I'm not going to be going again unless Charlton play there. Don't see the problem really.2 -
killerandflash said:
http://www.whufc.com/News/Articles/2016/August/20-August/Be-an-extra-at-the-Boleyn!
It turns out that the final event at Upton Park wasn't the emotional match at the end of last season...but a Pierce Brosnan movie!Starring Pierce Brosnan and Dave Bautista, the action movie centres around a group of heavily-armed criminals holding a sports stadium to ransom – and it’s down to an ex-soldier to use all his military skills to save a crowd of 35,000.
We done some if the set up there for that0 -
Thursday night would have attracted a few members of the "92" club as well, as a one off!Leeds_Addick said:
Of course it is.WSS said:
And true.killerandflash said:
Harsh...but funnySparrows Lane Lion said:For all the uproar about the way west ham secured the stadium at our expense and the fear from many Charlton fans that this could entice support away and future generations of support will be lost....it's good to see so many Charlton fans making a stand and not lining the pockets of west ham.
Oh wait, no, it seems there's more Charlton going to East London than will be at The Valley next!
Can't believe the number on here saying they've been.
Hoping it's a one off.
There may be those casual fans that are tempted by it but none of those that post on here fall into that category.1 -
Gently remind me? You bring it up quite often.PragueAddick said:I would like to gently remind SLL that only one Supporters Trust in London failed to join the Olympic Stadium Coalition.
But, as I said to the Information Tribunal judges, given that it was Millwall, it was probably simply due to reading and writing issues.
For many Millwall fans, we know the move is the death of west ham as the club they were.
What is the actual cost per taxpayer of this move for west ham? It may prove to be quite a bargain to see their 'proper' fans being disenfranchised and leave them in their droves.1 -
You do reside in Yorkshire, so nothing you Yorks lot do makes sense.Leeds_Addick said:
Of course it is.WSS said:
And true.killerandflash said:
Harsh...but funnySparrows Lane Lion said:For all the uproar about the way west ham secured the stadium at our expense and the fear from many Charlton fans that this could entice support away and future generations of support will be lost....it's good to see so many Charlton fans making a stand and not lining the pockets of west ham.
Oh wait, no, it seems there's more Charlton going to East London than will be at The Valley next!
Can't believe the number on here saying they've been.
Hoping it's a one off.
There may be those casual fans that are tempted by it but none of those that post on here fall into that category.
Paid a negligible amount to go and see what a stadium I've already been to is like as a football ground and I'm not going to be going again unless Charlton play there. Don't see the problem really.0 -
No I don't. I live in London.Sparrows Lane Lion said:
You do reside in Yorkshire, so nothing you Yorks lot do makes sense.Leeds_Addick said:
Of course it is.WSS said:
And true.killerandflash said:
Harsh...but funnySparrows Lane Lion said:For all the uproar about the way west ham secured the stadium at our expense and the fear from many Charlton fans that this could entice support away and future generations of support will be lost....it's good to see so many Charlton fans making a stand and not lining the pockets of west ham.
Oh wait, no, it seems there's more Charlton going to East London than will be at The Valley next!
Can't believe the number on here saying they've been.
Hoping it's a one off.
There may be those casual fans that are tempted by it but none of those that post on here fall into that category.
Paid a negligible amount to go and see what a stadium I've already been to is like as a football ground and I'm not going to be going again unless Charlton play there. Don't see the problem really.2 -
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Getting the same reaction to ppl actually going to Charlton games these days....killerandflash said:Can't believe the number on here saying they've been.
Hoping it's a one off.
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By the way, this is the stroppy lawyer that turned up at our session at the Supporters Summit. Despite being very garrulous,proclaiming that he "was born in Poplar, but now lives in Hampstead" he steadfastly maintained that he is not a supporter of any club. Yet he only attended our session. Given his doubtless self-penned but glowing write up, why would such a lawyer give up his Saturday, unpaid, for such a mundane event?
He took a rather unhealthy interest in the WestHam female fan who is their most well known opponent of that regime, although she is a right East End ally cat, and didn't need me to look after her. She told me she is sure he works for Gullivan. With me he tried to sound as if he doesn't like the Gullivan regime either, alluding to the Brady /Sullivan/snooker table story and claiming that she met them when she was 17, not 21 as widely asserted. But I think he was just trying to draw me in.
Has anyone by chance come across him?0 -
I haven't but that's a pretty awful wig he has there3
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He seems a right prick. So iron through and through methinks.PragueAddick said:By the way, this is the stroppy lawyer that turned up at our session at the Supporters Summit. Despite being very garrulous,proclaiming that he "was born in Poplar, but now lives in Hampstead" he steadfastly maintained that he is not a supporter of any club. Yet he only attended our session. Given his doubtless self-penned but glowing write up, why would such a lawyer give up his Saturday, unpaid, for such a mundane event?
He took a rather unhealthy interest in the WestHam female fan who is their most well known opponent of that regime, although she is a right East End ally cat, and didn't need me to look after her. She told me she is sure he works for Gullivan. With me he tried to sound as if he doesn't like the Gullivan regime either, alluding to the Brady /Sullivan/snooker table story and claiming that she met them when she was 17, not 21 as widely asserted. But I think he was just trying to draw me in.
Has anyone by chance come across him?3 -
I've been to the Copper Box over the past three years and walked around the stadium during all of that time. The area around the stadium is wide open and impossible to police on a big game. The only way they can separate the homes from the aways, is to lock down an area and have a designated station for away fans. If Chelsea or Spurs or Man Utd come in together in numbers undetected, there will be mayhem, especially if they come in to Stratford International, which is on the far side of the park from the away end. Hackney Wick station behind the Copper Box, is the overground route from Highbury & Islington, ideal for Arsenal. Away fans can get to the ground by all sorts of different routes. If they ever play Millwall at home, it will take a military operation to keep it under control.
The old West Ham has gone forever with this move. There is "Riff-Raff cleansing" going on at West Ham, as the owners strive for a more up market crowd who are willing to pay £4 for a coke, £9 for Fish and Chips and spend their money in the club shop, on top of the £1100 season ticket. Tourists, day-trippers, sports fans from the suburbs. They don't want late arrivals from the pub, who stand up during the game and spend no money. In five years time this club will be totally unrecognisable. If you think Charlton has been hijacked by a Belgian nutter, have a look at this club, it has been stolen from under the noses of 30,000 hardcore fans.
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For people to get away with this sort of rubbish you need others to let them. It doesn't matter if you are Charlton fans or not, some people in society are happy to let those in power sh*t on them. It is a sad fact of life. When people like Prague stand up those people deride him. The people responsible for this can't get away with it - if only to ensure that something similar doesn't happen again!8
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No. But there's a lawyer called Harry Potter at his chambers, so be careful if he starts waving his wand about.PragueAddick said:By the way, this is the stroppy lawyer that turned up at our session at the Supporters Summit. Despite being very garrulous,proclaiming that he "was born in Poplar, but now lives in Hampstead" he steadfastly maintained that he is not a supporter of any club. Yet he only attended our session. Given his doubtless self-penned but glowing write up, why would such a lawyer give up his Saturday, unpaid, for such a mundane event?
He took a rather unhealthy interest in the WestHam female fan who is their most well known opponent of that regime, although she is a right East End ally cat, and didn't need me to look after her. She told me she is sure he works for Gullivan. With me he tried to sound as if he doesn't like the Gullivan regime either, alluding to the Brady /Sullivan/snooker table story and claiming that she met them when she was 17, not 21 as widely asserted. But I think he was just trying to draw me in.
Has anyone by chance come across him?0 -
Don't know him @PragueAddick as I deal with law firms rather than barrister sets. Just watched his law in sport interview. Don't think I would ever want to be in his company. And he certainly didn't get that voice in Poplar!! One comment about representing di Canio does make me think he's an Iron though.0
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Could be a Wendy, when PDC pushed the ref over.TelMc32 said:Don't know him @PragueAddick as I deal with law firms rather than barrister sets. Just watched his law in sport interview. Don't think I would ever want to be in his company. And he certainly didn't get that voice in Poplar!! One comment about representing di Canio does make me think he's an Iron though.
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He's a Londoner all right, and if he was a Wendy, why hide it on the day?guinnessaddick said:
Could be a Wendy, when PDC pushed the ref over.TelMc32 said:Don't know him @PragueAddick as I deal with law firms rather than barrister sets. Just watched his law in sport interview. Don't think I would ever want to be in his company. And he certainly didn't get that voice in Poplar!! One comment about representing di Canio does make me think he's an Iron though.
He could of course just be a ****.
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