Best of a bad (remaining) bunch. Look at it another way, supposing a nuke were launched at us? Obama would be worrying about "How's that going to affect my legacy?" Bernie would be saying, "Don't worry, they're on the same side as us", Hilary would be saying "What difference does it make?" Oops, too late. There are checks and balances before a President can order THE button pushed, it's not his decision alone. If Trump becomes President we'll all just have to wait and see what kind of President he would be, just like any other President or elected official. I'm just not as scared of him as some (most?) are on this forum. Obama came in as President on a wave of good-will and hope from left AND right, look what a disappointment he has become. If Trump were elected there would be no good-will from the left, and not much from the right, the opposite for Hilary if she were elected, very difficult for them to overcome. Meantime, I am not a Trump supporter, I'm just not as scared of him as I am of Hilary.
1964 wants it's doomsday scenario back. It was complete bullshit then, too.
The only time we ever got close to a nuclear war was in October 1962. And just over a year later Kennedy got shot for being an appeaser (and for leaving some guys on a beach in Cuba which, when framed another way, sounds like a fucking delightful day out).
Not me who's keeps bring up the "finger on the button " issue.
Best of a bad (remaining) bunch. Look at it another way, supposing a nuke were launched at us? Obama would be worrying about "How's that going to affect my legacy?" Bernie would be saying, "Don't worry, they're on the same side as us", Hilary would be saying "What difference does it make?" Oops, too late. There are checks and balances before a President can order THE button pushed, it's not his decision alone. If Trump becomes President we'll all just have to wait and see what kind of President he would be, just like any other President or elected official. I'm just not as scared of him as some (most?) are on this forum. Obama came in as President on a wave of good-will and hope from left AND right, look what a disappointment he has become. If Trump were elected there would be no good-will from the left, and not much from the right, the opposite for Hilary if she were elected, very difficult for them to overcome. Meantime, I am not a Trump supporter, I'm just not as scared of him as I am of Hilary.
1964 wants it's doomsday scenario back. It was complete bullshit then, too.
The only time we ever got close to a nuclear war was in October 1962. And just over a year later Kennedy got shot for being an appeaser (and for leaving some guys on a beach in Cuba which, when framed another way, sounds like a fucking delightful day out).
Not me who's keeps bring up the "finger on the button " issue.
When he presses the button do you think he'll use his catch phrase?
Hark at someone from Chislehurst claiming that there is no such thing as institution racism and some people just need to pull their socks up!
Nice assumption but I no longer live there, and when I did it wasn't "posh" Chislehurst. So what's your point exactly?? Unless you lived in a shithole you're not entitled to an opinion?
When was Chislehurst not posh, 1784? Your opinion is like Shay Given's on the protest.
Well what doyou want from a pic of my parents house?? Their annual income? At which point am I allowed my say?
Still living at home? Man of the world you are, no wonder your opinions are so insightful.
I'm not living at home you freak read my previous posts "I no longer live there".
For the record, I'm not a Trump supporter, I'm an "anyone but Hilary" supporter.
So both Clinton and Trump win their respective nominations. You vote Trump ?
Yes, without hesitation.
And therefore are happy to let this person who encourages violence and acts of aggression to have his finger on the button ?
There, you've talked me into it. Isn't that what you wanted?
No not really. I'm just staggered by the acceptance of someone like Trump being possible President.
I'm glad that it couldn't happen in Great Britain.
Says a lot about America in my opinion.
You realise we may have to include Boris Johnson into that mix if Cameron loses the EU referendum. Sadly...it could well happen here too!!!
Well we don't have an independent nuclear deterrent anyway. Boris will need Donald's approval to press any buttons. In actual fact as much as I think Boris is a bit loopy I don't consider him a danger to world security in the way I see Trump being.
He trots out the same old rubbish, "Why don't moderate Muslims stop the extremists?", might as well ask "Why didn't moderate Christians stop Timothy McVeigh?", "Why don't moderate Christians stop the Westboro Baptist Church?", "Why didn't moderate Catholics stop the IRA?", or "Why don't moderate men stop rape?". It's a crap argument used to blame one group for the actions of another. Until we can raise the level of debate above that simplistic and illogical level then we have no chance of ever moving towards any sort of solution. Seems the Piers and his new BFF Donald would rather spout logical falicies than actually deal with the actual issues. That's not even an attack on Donald. it's what all populist politicians do.
If he's got the chumps on here fighting already before he's even been elected, we are in for a rough ride if he ever is. Get digging the Anderson Shelter everyone...
If he's got the chumps on here fighting already before he's even been elected, we are in for a rough ride if he ever is. Get digging the Anderson Shelter everyone...
Daily mail and piers Morgan... At least you linked a nice balanced source for opinions. He is a cretin and they are a hate rag,they don't agree with me congrats.
For me, Donald Trump isn't actually the problem. He's just the symptom. His rise from predicted joke to (nearly?) unstoppable is very alarming, NOT because of anything he's said or done (though he's said and done some alarming things for sure) but because he can keep on saying and doing what he likes and people will still vote for him, simply because they are that desperate for someone or something to change the system, someone (perceived as) outside the political establishment, someone whose not just Candidate Number whatever off the party production line putting another coat of paint on the same old lines and platitudes and promises.
He may win, he might lose. But in either case American politics seems to me on the verge of something very disturbing, there are an awful lot of people from all sorts of backgrounds willing to take a gamble on Trump despite or even because of his oft-cited failings just because they want something other than they've got. They just might get it...
For me, Donald Trump isn't actually the problem. He's just the symptom. His rise from predicted joke to (nearly?) unstoppable is very alarming, NOT because of anything he's said or done (though he's said and done some alarming things for sure) but because he can keep on saying and doing what he likes and people will still vote for him, simply because they are that desperate for someone or something to change the system, someone (perceived as) outside the political establishment, someone whose not just Candidate Number whatever off the party production line putting another coat of paint on the same old lines and platitudes and promises.
He may win, he might lose. But in either case American politics seems to me on the verge of something very disturbing, there are an awful lot of people from all sorts of backgrounds willing to take a gamble on Trump despite or even because of his oft-cited failings just because they want something other than they've got. They just might get it...
Sounds a bit similar to how Adolf rose to power. Except this guy has billions behind him.
For me, Donald Trump isn't actually the problem. He's just the symptom. His rise from predicted joke to (nearly?) unstoppable is very alarming, NOT because of anything he's said or done (though he's said and done some alarming things for sure) but because he can keep on saying and doing what he likes and people will still vote for him, simply because they are that desperate for someone or something to change the system, someone (perceived as) outside the political establishment, someone whose not just Candidate Number whatever off the party production line putting another coat of paint on the same old lines and platitudes and promises.
He may win, he might lose. But in either case American politics seems to me on the verge of something very disturbing, there are an awful lot of people from all sorts of backgrounds willing to take a gamble on Trump despite or even because of his oft-cited failings just because they want something other than they've got. They just might get it...
Sounds a bit similar to how Adolf rose to power. Except this guy has billions behind him.
Not really. Because I could probably substitute 'Bernie Sanders' for 'Donald Trump' and end up with an equally valid statement. And if either or neither of them actually wins there's likely to be an increase in the appeal of 'rogue' political figures and a period of adjustment and change as the men behind the curtains work out how the system works now and how to play it with the new rules. But they will, in time.
Comparing trump to Hitler, okay... Can you guys send me the link showing Trump killing 6 million plus innocent people??? I can't find it anywhere?!
Do you think Hitler had six million plus people killed and THEN got elected?
Ohhhhhh so you're assuming he's going to kill multi millions of people then?? Wel that's perfectly rationale in that case...
Not at all. Trump is a horrific human being but I don't imagine he'll ever oversee an atrocity like the Holocaust. I'm just trying to determine the logic of your argument.
All I am saying is he is playing on people's fears and ramping it up with some pretty inflammatory statements which are hitting home to a lot of people who are fed up with the current administration. Saying stuff like banning all Muslims from entering the country, stopping Mexican drug dealer/rapists crossing the border etc. is going to appeal to a large percentage of people who see what is happening outside of America. Did not say anywhere he was a mass murderer. Trump came out with a statement yesterday after the Belgium terror attacks and said the States are letting in all kinds of people with or without the necessary documentation and when I get to power this won't happen. Does his figures the power of good around the time of a presidential nominee election. Now I find it hard to believe that getting into America is so easy for a start and considering when I arrived here a couple of weeks ago, entering the country takes a hell of a long time with pretty much a triple check before you get through. I'd be pissed off I was a border security person and Trump says they are not doing their job properly.
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Daily mail and piers Morgan... At least you linked a nice balanced source for opinions. He is a cretin and they are a hate rag, congrats.
He may win, he might lose. But in either case American politics seems to me on the verge of something very disturbing, there are an awful lot of people from all sorts of backgrounds willing to take a gamble on Trump despite or even because of his oft-cited failings just because they want something other than they've got. They just might get it...
Can you guys send me the link showing Trump killing 6 million plus innocent people??? I can't find it anywhere?!