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Will Trump become President?

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,350
    It looks more and more likely that Trump (not Judd) will be the Republican presidential candidate and more and more likely that Clinton will become the next president of the USA.
    Like most presidents, PMs, leaders of whatever description, their performance depends to a large extent on what advice they get from their 'cabinets' and more often than not from the 'military industrial' billionaires who paid for/bought their election.
    Incidentally, IF, in the unlikely event that Bernie Sanders gets elected, he will be the first Jewish president, though it is often claimed by cynics (or realists ?) that in actual fact, the USA's foreign policy is governed by the chaps in Tel Aviv
  • Godstone
    Godstone Posts: 700
    Derek1952 said:

    What Donald Trump got to do with Charlton, should this post be in another section.

    Perhaps he'll be our next owner.
  • Godstone
    Godstone Posts: 700
    edited February 2016
    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY
  • sadiejane1981
    sadiejane1981 Posts: 9,012
    Bloody hope not!
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Godstone said:

    I do like politicians who speak their minds. Galloway, Benn, Widdecombe, Farage etc - different parties but have courage to speak out. Trump speaks out, right or wrong. Jeb Bush, Obama, and a lot of the others are like political machines.

    Galloway says whatever his audience wants him to say. The other three I agree are principled enough to be consistent in their message.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,655
    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    It's depressing that Trump would be the least worst option in a Clinton-Trump race.
  • sadiejane1981
    sadiejane1981 Posts: 9,012
    Trump will be a tragedy not just for the USA but for the world.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
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  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,655
    edited February 2016
    sadiejane1981 said:

    Trump will be a tragedy not just for the USA but for the world.

    And Clinton was bought and paid for decades ago. I hope neither of them get anywhere near the White House
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    limeygent said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
    Thankyou. What do you think his chances are ?

  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    limeygent said:

    shine166 said:

    Godstone said:

    I do like politicians who speak their minds. Galloway, Benn, Widdecombe, Farage etc - different parties but have courage to speak out. Trump speaks out, right or wrong. Jeb Bush, Obama, and a lot of the others are like political machines.


    Nope, Bernie speaks out.... Trump speaks a load of shit.
    Trouble with Bernie, like all Socialists, is he says all the things he's going to do, but says nothing about where the money is going to come from. Nothing he says he's going to do will ever get done.
    Well you have a useless fighter jet (jack of far to man trades and definitely master of none) that'd costing over a trillion dollars, just cancel that.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    sadiejane1981 said:

    Bloody hope not!

    Look up the 1783 treaty of Paris.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    limeygent said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
    Thankyou. What do you think his chances are ?

    Very difficult to judge, as others drop out we'll see where their voters go. The main thing is to nominate somebody who can beat the Democrat, whoever that is. If Trump is nominated there'll be a lot of "anybody but him" votes, as there will be for Hilary, "anybody but her" votes.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    randy andy said:

    limeygent said:

    shine166 said:

    Godstone said:

    I do like politicians who speak their minds. Galloway, Benn, Widdecombe, Farage etc - different parties but have courage to speak out. Trump speaks out, right or wrong. Jeb Bush, Obama, and a lot of the others are like political machines.


    Nope, Bernie speaks out.... Trump speaks a load of shit.
    Trouble with Bernie, like all Socialists, is he says all the things he's going to do, but says nothing about where the money is going to come from. Nothing he says he's going to do will ever get done.
    Well you have a useless fighter jet (jack of far to man trades and definitely master of none) that'd costing over a trillion dollars, just cancel that.
    Good idea, they're building tanks that the army has said are not needed as well, think maybe a few palms have been greased? It goes on and on.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    limeygent said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    limeygent said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
    Thankyou. What do you think his chances are ?

    Very difficult to judge, as others drop out we'll see where their voters go. The main thing is to nominate somebody who can beat the Democrat, whoever that is. If Trump is nominated there'll be a lot of "anybody but him" votes, as there will be for Hilary, "anybody but her" votes.
    But in a straight fight Trump cannot beat Clinton ?

  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    limeygent said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    limeygent said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
    Thankyou. What do you think his chances are ?

    Very difficult to judge, as others drop out we'll see where their voters go. The main thing is to nominate somebody who can beat the Democrat, whoever that is. If Trump is nominated there'll be a lot of "anybody but him" votes, as there will be for Hilary, "anybody but her" votes.
    But in a straight fight Trump cannot beat Clinton ?

    I wouldn't say that with any certainty. Remember also that she is still under investigation by the FBI. She may have to drop out, in which case someone else could come in for the Democrats.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    limeygent said:

    shine166 said:

    Godstone said:

    I do like politicians who speak their minds. Galloway, Benn, Widdecombe, Farage etc - different parties but have courage to speak out. Trump speaks out, right or wrong. Jeb Bush, Obama, and a lot of the others are like political machines.


    Nope, Bernie speaks out.... Trump speaks a load of shit.
    Trouble with Bernie, like all Socialists, is he says all the things he's going to do, but says nothing about where the money is going to come from. Nothing he says he's going to do will ever get done.

    That's true, at least trump has the ability to say he will make Mexico pay for that wall !. I imagine it's easy to say what and how you will change america.... When in reality you will never be voted in and held accountable

  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    Also, nobody gives 2 shits where money for more war comes from. As soon as anyone mentions changing for the good, others pipe up with 'how you going to fund it' tripe
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  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    Perversely the Republicans should be doing everything they can to ensure Hilary stays in the race. I can see them having a chance of beating her into the Whitehouse as she's as compromised as any of the Republican candidates.

    If she's forced to pull out and Sanders get the Democrats nominations then he could be a lot harder to beat. There's a lot of young people who potentially wouldn't vote for Hilary who will vote for Bernie, plus the vast majority of minorities (misnomer as the US passed the point of a white majority a couple of years back) aren't going to be voting Trump.

    The best chance for a Republican president is someone a little more palatable than Trump win the Republican race, and is up against Hilary Clinton, who they can attack for untold numbers of lies and borderline criminal activity. Trump v Sanders is probably a worse case scenario for the Republicans.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    "Borderline criminal activity", are you serious?
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Might want to check this out also.
    http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    limeygent said:

    "Borderline criminal activity", are you serious?

    I'm not sure what you mean by "are you serious", Clinton is accused of a number of things that, depending on political will, could result in criminal charges (the personal email server being used for government business and the subsequent loss of data and security being pretty high up the list). I'm just pointing out that it may not be in the Republican's best interests to pursue that line of logic too hard and force her out of the presidential race.

    I would suggest they'd be better off having her as the Democrat nominee and then discrediting her during the presidential campaign, than playing their hand now and forcing to bow out to fight charges. Clinton is a known quantity with known skeletons, a presidential race against Sanders is a far bigger risk.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    limeygent said:

    Might want to check this out also.
    http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/

    Some surprising numbers in that, and some confused liberals I'd guess, fancy that massive support from the black/Hispanic communities for racist bigot Trump eh.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    They're all fucking bigots.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    The Republican Party nowadays is like if some unholy union of the BNP and the Tory right was in constant opposition, supported by trillions of dollars and a media machine. They're all twisted fucking lunatics. This isn't even a debate.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    Leuth said:

    The Republican Party nowadays is like if some unholy union of the BNP and the Tory right was in constant opposition, supported by trillions of dollars and a media machine. They're all twisted fucking lunatics. This isn't even a debate.

    Thanks for clearing this up, admin you can close this thread now.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    Saunders can't win, you can't win the Democratic nomination with such bad numbers in the African American community. Hilary could have it wrapped up on super Tuesday.

    Clinton to be president, the GOP can't jerrymander the Presidential election like they do with the senate or congress.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    Rothko, stop adding to the debate. Leuth has already said that he is right and everyone else is wrong, so leave it there.

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