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Will Trump become President?

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    It looks more and more likely that Trump (not Judd) will be the Republican presidential candidate and more and more likely that Clinton will become the next president of the USA.
    Like most presidents, PMs, leaders of whatever description, their performance depends to a large extent on what advice they get from their 'cabinets' and more often than not from the 'military industrial' billionaires who paid for/bought their election.
    Incidentally, IF, in the unlikely event that Bernie Sanders gets elected, he will be the first Jewish president, though it is often claimed by cynics (or realists ?) that in actual fact, the USA's foreign policy is governed by the chaps in Tel Aviv
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    Derek1952 said:

    What Donald Trump got to do with Charlton, should this post be in another section.

    Perhaps he'll be our next owner.
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    edited February 2016
    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY
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    Bloody hope not!
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    Godstone said:

    I do like politicians who speak their minds. Galloway, Benn, Widdecombe, Farage etc - different parties but have courage to speak out. Trump speaks out, right or wrong. Jeb Bush, Obama, and a lot of the others are like political machines.

    Galloway says whatever his audience wants him to say. The other three I agree are principled enough to be consistent in their message.
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    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
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    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    It's depressing that Trump would be the least worst option in a Clinton-Trump race.
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    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
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    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
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    edited February 2016

    Trump will be a tragedy not just for the USA but for the world.

    And Clinton was bought and paid for decades ago. I hope neither of them get anywhere near the White House
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    limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
    Thankyou. What do you think his chances are ?

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    limeygent said:

    shine166 said:

    Godstone said:

    I do like politicians who speak their minds. Galloway, Benn, Widdecombe, Farage etc - different parties but have courage to speak out. Trump speaks out, right or wrong. Jeb Bush, Obama, and a lot of the others are like political machines.


    Nope, Bernie speaks out.... Trump speaks a load of shit.
    Trouble with Bernie, like all Socialists, is he says all the things he's going to do, but says nothing about where the money is going to come from. Nothing he says he's going to do will ever get done.
    Well you have a useless fighter jet (jack of far to man trades and definitely master of none) that'd costing over a trillion dollars, just cancel that.
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    limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
    Thankyou. What do you think his chances are ?

    Very difficult to judge, as others drop out we'll see where their voters go. The main thing is to nominate somebody who can beat the Democrat, whoever that is. If Trump is nominated there'll be a lot of "anybody but him" votes, as there will be for Hilary, "anybody but her" votes.
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    limeygent said:

    shine166 said:

    Godstone said:

    I do like politicians who speak their minds. Galloway, Benn, Widdecombe, Farage etc - different parties but have courage to speak out. Trump speaks out, right or wrong. Jeb Bush, Obama, and a lot of the others are like political machines.


    Nope, Bernie speaks out.... Trump speaks a load of shit.
    Trouble with Bernie, like all Socialists, is he says all the things he's going to do, but says nothing about where the money is going to come from. Nothing he says he's going to do will ever get done.
    Well you have a useless fighter jet (jack of far to man trades and definitely master of none) that'd costing over a trillion dollars, just cancel that.
    Good idea, they're building tanks that the army has said are not needed as well, think maybe a few palms have been greased? It goes on and on.
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    limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
    Thankyou. What do you think his chances are ?

    Very difficult to judge, as others drop out we'll see where their voters go. The main thing is to nominate somebody who can beat the Democrat, whoever that is. If Trump is nominated there'll be a lot of "anybody but him" votes, as there will be for Hilary, "anybody but her" votes.
    But in a straight fight Trump cannot beat Clinton ?

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    limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    limeygent said:

    Godstone said:

    Back to politics, I'd rather Trump win than Hilary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypl1MYuKDY

    A career criminal indeed, and it goes on.
    Who will you be voting for ?
    So far, I lean towards Rubio.
    Thankyou. What do you think his chances are ?

    Very difficult to judge, as others drop out we'll see where their voters go. The main thing is to nominate somebody who can beat the Democrat, whoever that is. If Trump is nominated there'll be a lot of "anybody but him" votes, as there will be for Hilary, "anybody but her" votes.
    But in a straight fight Trump cannot beat Clinton ?

    I wouldn't say that with any certainty. Remember also that she is still under investigation by the FBI. She may have to drop out, in which case someone else could come in for the Democrats.
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    limeygent said:

    shine166 said:

    Godstone said:

    I do like politicians who speak their minds. Galloway, Benn, Widdecombe, Farage etc - different parties but have courage to speak out. Trump speaks out, right or wrong. Jeb Bush, Obama, and a lot of the others are like political machines.


    Nope, Bernie speaks out.... Trump speaks a load of shit.
    Trouble with Bernie, like all Socialists, is he says all the things he's going to do, but says nothing about where the money is going to come from. Nothing he says he's going to do will ever get done.

    That's true, at least trump has the ability to say he will make Mexico pay for that wall !. I imagine it's easy to say what and how you will change america.... When in reality you will never be voted in and held accountable

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    Perversely the Republicans should be doing everything they can to ensure Hilary stays in the race. I can see them having a chance of beating her into the Whitehouse as she's as compromised as any of the Republican candidates.

    If she's forced to pull out and Sanders get the Democrats nominations then he could be a lot harder to beat. There's a lot of young people who potentially wouldn't vote for Hilary who will vote for Bernie, plus the vast majority of minorities (misnomer as the US passed the point of a white majority a couple of years back) aren't going to be voting Trump.

    The best chance for a Republican president is someone a little more palatable than Trump win the Republican race, and is up against Hilary Clinton, who they can attack for untold numbers of lies and borderline criminal activity. Trump v Sanders is probably a worse case scenario for the Republicans.
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    "Borderline criminal activity", are you serious?
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    limeygent said:

    "Borderline criminal activity", are you serious?

    I'm not sure what you mean by "are you serious", Clinton is accused of a number of things that, depending on political will, could result in criminal charges (the personal email server being used for government business and the subsequent loss of data and security being pretty high up the list). I'm just pointing out that it may not be in the Republican's best interests to pursue that line of logic too hard and force her out of the presidential race.

    I would suggest they'd be better off having her as the Democrat nominee and then discrediting her during the presidential campaign, than playing their hand now and forcing to bow out to fight charges. Clinton is a known quantity with known skeletons, a presidential race against Sanders is a far bigger risk.
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    limeygent said:
    Some surprising numbers in that, and some confused liberals I'd guess, fancy that massive support from the black/Hispanic communities for racist bigot Trump eh.
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    They're all fucking bigots.
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    Leuth said:

    The Republican Party nowadays is like if some unholy union of the BNP and the Tory right was in constant opposition, supported by trillions of dollars and a media machine. They're all twisted fucking lunatics. This isn't even a debate.

    Thanks for clearing this up, admin you can close this thread now.
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    Saunders can't win, you can't win the Democratic nomination with such bad numbers in the African American community. Hilary could have it wrapped up on super Tuesday.

    Clinton to be president, the GOP can't jerrymander the Presidential election like they do with the senate or congress.
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    Rothko, stop adding to the debate. Leuth has already said that he is right and everyone else is wrong, so leave it there.
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