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No appetite from fans for a third fight. US fight fans are a fickle bunch too so now that Wilder has lost I can see him struggling to sell out arenas.2121 said:What a Performance!Aj will have to defend against pulev first, might also be called to another mandatory defence?... Fury/wilder rematch in june... so possibly October/November fury aj? Assume it would need to be in cardiff/spurs (or saudi as hearn has said, although warren will have something to say now)...
Joshua and Hearn will try and duck Fury, especially now they've seen that he has the power to put Wilder down as well as the skill and speed to avoid getting hit.
AJ will beat Pulev but will he finally be made to fight Whyte again after? That's no longer a fight that he definitely wins imo.1 -
Nobody with a brain believed him anywayChris_from_Sidcup said:
Given that Fury has gone to Germany to fight Klitschko and the US twice to fight Wilder, absolutely nobody would believe Hearn if he tried to claim that Fury doesn't want a fight with Joshua.SELR_addicks said:Hearn wants it in Saudi Arabia for the £££
Needs to be at Wembley but can't see it happening. Expect a Hearn lowball offer and then a claim that Fury doesn't want the fight.
Hearn will do all he can to milk as much money as is humanly possible and to weigh the scales in his mans favour. In fairness as he should he is the promoter but his strap line of giving it large about British boxing means nothing if the biggest british fight since Froch v Groves isn't held on UK soil
Also Joshua wont be scared of fighting Fury but Hearn will, Joshua is his cow and there are not any big box office fighters ready yet to command a PPV apart from Warrington maybe in his stable whereas Warren now has Fury with Dubois coming through1 -
I don’t think any heavyweight on the planet ‘definitely wins’ against Whyte.Croydon said:
No appetite from fans for a third fight. US fight fans are a fickle bunch too so now that Wilder has lost I can see him struggling to sell out arenas.2121 said:What a Performance!Aj will have to defend against pulev first, might also be called to another mandatory defence?... Fury/wilder rematch in june... so possibly October/November fury aj? Assume it would need to be in cardiff/spurs (or saudi as hearn has said, although warren will have something to say now)...
Joshua and Hearn will try and duck Fury, especially now they've seen that he has the power to put Wilder down as well as the skill and speed to avoid getting hit.
AJ will beat Pulev but will he finally be made to fight Whyte again after? That's no longer a fight that he definitely wins imo.4 -
Fair point Bob. What I mean is that Whyte is a much improved fighter than when the two last met.bobmunro said:
I don’t think any heavyweight on the planet ‘definitely wins’ against Whyte.Croydon said:
No appetite from fans for a third fight. US fight fans are a fickle bunch too so now that Wilder has lost I can see him struggling to sell out arenas.2121 said:What a Performance!Aj will have to defend against pulev first, might also be called to another mandatory defence?... Fury/wilder rematch in june... so possibly October/November fury aj? Assume it would need to be in cardiff/spurs (or saudi as hearn has said, although warren will have something to say now)...
Joshua and Hearn will try and duck Fury, especially now they've seen that he has the power to put Wilder down as well as the skill and speed to avoid getting hit.
AJ will beat Pulev but will he finally be made to fight Whyte again after? That's no longer a fight that he definitely wins imo.0 -
I totally agree - no way Fury or AJ would want to fight Whyte before maybe getting together themselves - he could easily ruin their big pay day. Wilder has never wanted to fight Whyte!Croydon said:
Fair point Bob. What I mean is that Whyte is a much improved fighter than when the two last met.bobmunro said:
I don’t think any heavyweight on the planet ‘definitely wins’ against Whyte.Croydon said:
No appetite from fans for a third fight. US fight fans are a fickle bunch too so now that Wilder has lost I can see him struggling to sell out arenas.2121 said:What a Performance!Aj will have to defend against pulev first, might also be called to another mandatory defence?... Fury/wilder rematch in june... so possibly October/November fury aj? Assume it would need to be in cardiff/spurs (or saudi as hearn has said, although warren will have something to say now)...
Joshua and Hearn will try and duck Fury, especially now they've seen that he has the power to put Wilder down as well as the skill and speed to avoid getting hit.
AJ will beat Pulev but will he finally be made to fight Whyte again after? That's no longer a fight that he definitely wins imo.1 -
Fury holds all the aces now though and hearn knows it and will admit it. Has already admitted they'd have to give wilder 50:50 since the ruiz loss.0
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If the Saudi's offer 2-3 times what they'll make at Wembley, there's no way they're going to fight in London just for the sake of British Boxing.Carter said:
Nobody with a brain believed him anywayChris_from_Sidcup said:
Given that Fury has gone to Germany to fight Klitschko and the US twice to fight Wilder, absolutely nobody would believe Hearn if he tried to claim that Fury doesn't want a fight with Joshua.SELR_addicks said:Hearn wants it in Saudi Arabia for the £££
Needs to be at Wembley but can't see it happening. Expect a Hearn lowball offer and then a claim that Fury doesn't want the fight.
Hearn will do all he can to milk as much money as is humanly possible and to weigh the scales in his mans favour. In fairness as he should he is the promoter but his strap line of giving it large about British boxing means nothing if the biggest british fight since Froch v Groves isn't held on UK soil
Also Joshua wont be scared of fighting Fury but Hearn will, Joshua is his cow and there are not any big box office fighters ready yet to command a PPV apart from Warrington maybe in his stable whereas Warren now has Fury with Dubois coming through
Not to mention they'd fight at midnight local time out there, making it 9pm peak time in the UK so they'd still shift a record number of PPV's.1 -
Apart from Furybobmunro said:
I don’t think any heavyweight on the planet ‘definitely wins’ against Whyte.Croydon said:
No appetite from fans for a third fight. US fight fans are a fickle bunch too so now that Wilder has lost I can see him struggling to sell out arenas.2121 said:What a Performance!Aj will have to defend against pulev first, might also be called to another mandatory defence?... Fury/wilder rematch in june... so possibly October/November fury aj? Assume it would need to be in cardiff/spurs (or saudi as hearn has said, although warren will have something to say now)...
Joshua and Hearn will try and duck Fury, especially now they've seen that he has the power to put Wilder down as well as the skill and speed to avoid getting hit.
AJ will beat Pulev but will he finally be made to fight Whyte again after? That's no longer a fight that he definitely wins imo.0 -
Aj and Fury fight at the Tottenham stadium.0
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No way will Fury and Joshua fight in this country.Money talks, fuck the fans who have packed out the UK stadiums and arenas and made the promoters rich.5
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Fury v AJ could well see some crazy Novel arrangement like it being staged in front of 15k in the Middle East with live beam backs at major stadia in the UK with live undercards to get the punters in. PPV figures would be enormous as would the price tag. The first £30 PPV ticket I’d guess. World’s gone mad.0
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A lot of people would pay 30 imo - agree madness.
Americans would.
Wilder getting booed walking to the ring in Las Vegas - unheard of.
Fury has Americans on his side.
All said, AJ will poo his pants and not face Tyson1 -
Well done Len! Modesty prevented me from mentioning that I had Fury in the 8th earlier in this thread (slightly wrong) and as a matter of interest (to me anyway) I also forecast a 3-1 win for the Addicks in the predictions competition. But, like you, this doesn’t happen for me very often.LenGlover said:
Nice to get something right for once.LenGlover said:What's Wilder's chin like?
Fury has won quite a few by knockout (I know we are not necessarily talking world class with those) but tends to box rather than punch. I suspect he might surprise us if he actually tries punching as I'm not convinced Wilder has a strong chin.
Doesn't happen often!0 -
Imagine the mood in the Wilder camp pre-fight, they are all in there huddled away getting hyped up with some aggressive rap music getting ready to go to war....suddenly all they can hear are the tones of 1960s crooner Patsy Kline’s melodious “Crazy” filling the arena.
Suddenly this now longer feels like a gladiatorial contest at the MGM Grand, it’s more like a wet Sunday at the Morecambe Ballroom and now they start to realise that the dreadlocked rapper they’ve booked for the ring-walk is now going to look absolutely ridiculous.
Just one of the many reasons why Tyson Fury is a genius.7 -
Fury seems to have an art of getting into opponents heads with menacing charm. Did it with Klitschko and now Wilder and of course outboxed and fought both men.Ormiston_Addick said:Imagine the mood in the Wilder camp pre-fight, they are all in there huddled away getting hyped up with some aggressive rap music getting ready to go to war....suddenly all they can hear are the tones of 1960s crooner Patsy Kline’s melodious “Crazy” filling the arena.
Suddenly this now longer feels like a gladiatorial contest at the MGM Grand, it’s more like a wet Sunday at the Morecambe Ballroom and now they start to realise that the dreadlocked rapper they’ve booked for the ring-walk is now going to look absolutely ridiculous.
Just one of the many reasons why Tyson Fury is a genius.
A real enigma and proud he hails from these shores. Hope he can stay on track with himself for him and his family in the coming years.
Will be great to see Joshua and Fury get it on. So pleased for Fury and what a barnstormer of a performance.
He won't ever get a knighthood but he'll always be remembered by those who matter. Very flawed but a heart of gold.
Proper and genuine character in an age of dull and sterile polished sportsmen.
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He does just that - his opponents just cannot get a grip on him at all.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Fury seems to have an art of getting into opponents heads with menacing charm. Did it with Klitschko and now Wilder and of course outboxed and fought both men.Ormiston_Addick said:Imagine the mood in the Wilder camp pre-fight, they are all in there huddled away getting hyped up with some aggressive rap music getting ready to go to war....suddenly all they can hear are the tones of 1960s crooner Patsy Kline’s melodious “Crazy” filling the arena.
Suddenly this now longer feels like a gladiatorial contest at the MGM Grand, it’s more like a wet Sunday at the Morecambe Ballroom and now they start to realise that the dreadlocked rapper they’ve booked for the ring-walk is now going to look absolutely ridiculous.
Just one of the many reasons why Tyson Fury is a genius.
A real enigma and proud he hails from these shores. Hope he can stay on track with himself for him and his family in the coming years.
Will be great to see Joshua and Fury get it on. So pleased for Fury and what a barnstormer of a performance.
He won't ever get a knighthood but he'll always be remembered by those who matter. Very flawed but a heart of gold.
Proper and genuine character in an age of dull and sterile polished sportsmen.
The trick with Tyson is that all the stuff he comes out with is just a JOKE - he doesn't mean any of it - and that's the point, he knows it's an act, the punters know it's an act, but everyone is happy to play along with it.
If you compare him to Naseem Hamed from the 90s then it's chalk and cheese, some of the stuff Hamed used to come out with was spiteful and nasty and he was obviously an egotist - everyone can see that Tyson is actually quite a humble guy.1 -
The amount of money that Saudi Arabia are paying for big sporting events at the moment is extraordinary. I read somewhere that Tyson Fury was paid £12m just to do the WWE match that he had recently over there.
Would absolutely love a fight with AJ to be at Wembley Stadium though.0 -
What is interesting listening to American boxing podcasts, is not neccessarily how much in awe of Fury they were, but how dismissive of, and how little they rate Joshua in comparison to him.
I suppose you have to remember than AJ's only appearance in the US was his disastrous loss to Ruiz, after he had been promoted as the next big thing by Hearn.
Still not sure that the AJ Vs Fury fight will happen - Hearn has this year planned out for AJ anyhow, and Fury is such a maverick and free spirit that it is impossible to know what he will be thinking and feeling twelve months down the line.
As for Wilder, he would be a fool to take the option of a rematch up - all he would be guaranteeing (apart from the money of course), would be another beating by a bigger and better boxer. Far better to drop down a level, and see what happens down the line.0 -
BR3red said:A lot of people would pay 30 imo - agree madness.
Americans would.
Wilder getting booed walking to the ring in Las Vegas - unheard of.
Fury has Americans on his side.
All said, AJ will poo his pants and not face Tyson
Last night was $79.99 PPV for a bit of perspective
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That's fairly standard for the US.Callumcafc said:BR3red said:A lot of people would pay 30 imo - agree madness.
Americans would.
Wilder getting booed walking to the ring in Las Vegas - unheard of.
Fury has Americans on his side.
All said, AJ will poo his pants and not face Tyson
Last night was $79.99 PPV for a bit of perspective
UFC PPV's are usually $65. I think the Mayweather v McGregor 'fight' was $90.
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RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Fury: Proper and genuine character in an age of dull and sterile polished sportsmen.Ormiston_Addick said:Imagine the mood in the Wilder camp pre-fight, they are all in there huddled away getting hyped up with some aggressive rap music getting ready to go to war....suddenly all they can hear are the tones of 1960s crooner Patsy Kline’s melodious “Crazy” filling the arena.
Suddenly this now longer feels like a gladiatorial contest at the MGM Grand, it’s more like a wet Sunday at the Morecambe Ballroom and now they start to realise that the dreadlocked rapper they’ve booked for the ring-walk is now going to look absolutely ridiculous.
Just one of the many reasons why Tyson Fury is a genius.
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:
That's fairly standard for the US.Callumcafc said:BR3red said:A lot of people would pay 30 imo - agree madness.
Americans would.
Wilder getting booed walking to the ring in Las Vegas - unheard of.
Fury has Americans on his side.
All said, AJ will poo his pants and not face Tyson
Last night was $79.99 PPV for a bit of perspective
UFC PPV's are usually $65. I think the Mayweather v McGregor 'fight' was $90.
I seem to remember Mayweather v Pacquiao was $100.
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Eddie Hearn live on SSN in the next 10 mins.0
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Not sure you can get any duller than Federer other than an interview with Tiger Woods.bazjonster said:RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Fury: Proper and genuine character in an age of dull and sterile polished sportsmen.Ormiston_Addick said:Imagine the mood in the Wilder camp pre-fight, they are all in there huddled away getting hyped up with some aggressive rap music getting ready to go to war....suddenly all they can hear are the tones of 1960s crooner Patsy Kline’s melodious “Crazy” filling the arena.
Suddenly this now longer feels like a gladiatorial contest at the MGM Grand, it’s more like a wet Sunday at the Morecambe Ballroom and now they start to realise that the dreadlocked rapper they’ve booked for the ring-walk is now going to look absolutely ridiculous.
Just one of the many reasons why Tyson Fury is a genius.
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Hearn making all the right noises. They should offer Wilder a load of $ to wait it out and have first dibs on the winner of Fury v AJ. Would never happen of course as we’d have Fury v AJ 2 and 3 to get done first and I dare say that would suit Wilder who won’t fancy another spanking. Not sure how they get round the Pulev problem though.carly burn said:Eddie Hearn live on SSN in the next 10 mins.0 -
I think AJ is far more scared of Fury than Fury is of AJ. Fury is a one-off.1
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I see it pretty much as a British version of the Fury v Wilder scenario. Fury will box AJ’s pants off but if Joshua actually manages to hit him.........hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I think AJ is far more scared of Fury than Fury is of AJ. Fury is a one-off.0 -
Fury’s old man on GMB today wants Fury to retire!0
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That's interesting. His Dad is a very good judge of what's good and what's not so good for him.Greenie said:Fury’s old man on GMB today wants Fury to retire!
I guess he sees it that he's won all there is to win, albeit at different times.
Maybe he thinks Joshua could cause him a bit of damage?0 -
Fury is only 31 and would probably earn 50m+ from a Joshua fight (if they fight in Saudi), so he'd be mad to retire now.0
