Johan Berg Gudmundsson - Burnley bid accepted
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Starting for Burnley in the cup tonight. Wearing number 25.
Plus Pope is in goal.2 -
He looked very good when he came on at the weekend. His technique certainly looked Premier League class, and I don't think his pace or lack thereof is quite as big an issue as some on here have pointed out.Callumcafc said:Starting for Burnley in the cup tonight. Wearing number 25.
Plus Pope is in goal.0 -
Just had a good chance which he should have done better from.0
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Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.3
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Our lot will always be outplayed at this game. Christ knows what the rest of the football world thinks of them and their incompetence.harveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
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soapy_jones said:
Our lot will always be outplayed at this game. Christ knows what the rest of the football world thinks of them and their incompetence.harveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
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Good, the less money we get for our players the better. We all know who's pocked the money is going.harveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
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Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
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If you're desperate to get his wages off the books, you don't accept an offer in July. His wages should reflect his transfer value. Similarly the much maligned Reza scored a World Cup goal and we got zilch for him.Redhenry said:
Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
For an owner whose main business model is transfer dealing rather than pitch success, it is staggering incompetence.7 -
So what?Redhenry said:
Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
Which football genius gave him those wages leaving the budget for the rest of the squad so small we were relegated?
Not sure how you can offer this as a justification when it's another example of her incompetence.4 - Sponsored links:
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Ouch, loss for Pope and gudmonsson to Accrington Stanley.0
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Burnley reserves getting Charltonised!Alwaysneil said:Ouch, loss for Pope and gudmonsson to Accrington Stanley.
Actually, thought Pope did ok. JBG a forgettable performance.0 -
I think you missed my point. If you have to pay a player more in salary the transfer fee is going to be lower. I'm not trying to justify the large contract he was given.Henry Irving said:
So what?Redhenry said:
Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
Which football genius gave him those wages leaving the budget for the rest of the squad so small we were relegated?
Not sure how you can offer this as a justification when it's another example of her incompetence.1 -
Yep, JBG was pretty poor last nightAddickted2U said:
Burnley reserves getting Charltonised!Alwaysneil said:Ouch, loss for Pope and gudmonsson to Accrington Stanley.
Actually, thought Pope did ok. JBG a forgettable performance.0 -
I disagree. 18k would not be a huge wage for a prem club to match or increase, even Burnley.Redhenry said:
I think you missed my point. If you have to pay a player more in salary the transfer fee is going to be lower. I'm not trying to justify the large contract he was given.Henry Irving said:
So what?Redhenry said:
Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
Which football genius gave him those wages leaving the budget for the rest of the squad so small we were relegated?
Not sure how you can offer this as a justification when it's another example of her incompetence.
The wages are an issue for the player and his new club and shouldn't impact on the fee paid unless the selling club are desperate to shift that player because they gave him prem wages but ended up in league 1.2 -
18k a week are, I'd imagine, pretty far below Prem wages for a player regularly in a Premier League squad. Doubt anyone besides a youth player just breaking through in on less than 30k/week, and I may be underestimating there.Henry Irving said:
I disagree. 18k would not be a huge wage for a prem club to match or increase, even Burnley.Redhenry said:
I think you missed my point. If you have to pay a player more in salary the transfer fee is going to be lower. I'm not trying to justify the large contract he was given.Henry Irving said:
So what?Redhenry said:
Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
Which football genius gave him those wages leaving the budget for the rest of the squad so small we were relegated?
Not sure how you can offer this as a justification when it's another example of her incompetence.
The wages are an issue for the player and his new club and shouldn't impact on the fee paid unless the selling club are desperate to shift that player because they gave him prem wages but ended up in league 1.
I know Burnley aren't a club who like to spend, but picking up JBG's wages would not have been a huge dent for them. The sticking point between the two clubs should have been the valuation of the player. I think we got that one horribly, horribly wrong. But I also don't know if there is any logical way to measure transfers anymore.0 -
I remember getting pelters on here when I suggested that Poyet would struggle in the Premiership, and I think the same is true of JBG.kinveachyaddick said:
Yep, JBG was pretty poor last nightAddickted2U said:
Burnley reserves getting Charltonised!Alwaysneil said:Ouch, loss for Pope and gudmonsson to Accrington Stanley.
Actually, thought Pope did ok. JBG a forgettable performance.
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Starting tonight for Burnley... Pope not on the bench yet Gudmundsson just did a lovely cross2
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Started well0
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18k not a big figure, especially as they gave Pope 20kHenry Irving said:
I disagree. 18k would not be a huge wage for a prem club to match or increase, even Burnley.Redhenry said:
I think you missed my point. If you have to pay a player more in salary the transfer fee is going to be lower. I'm not trying to justify the large contract he was given.Henry Irving said:
So what?Redhenry said:
Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
Which football genius gave him those wages leaving the budget for the rest of the squad so small we were relegated?
Not sure how you can offer this as a justification when it's another example of her incompetence.
The wages are an issue for the player and his new club and shouldn't impact on the fee paid unless the selling club are desperate to shift that player because they gave him prem wages but ended up in league 1.0 - Sponsored links:
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I don't actually think he's premiership class7
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Now I know why Pope left.cafc999 said:
18k not a big figure, especially as they gave Pope 20kHenry Irving said:
I disagree. 18k would not be a huge wage for a prem club to match or increase, even Burnley.Redhenry said:
I think you missed my point. If you have to pay a player more in salary the transfer fee is going to be lower. I'm not trying to justify the large contract he was given.Henry Irving said:
So what?Redhenry said:
Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
Which football genius gave him those wages leaving the budget for the rest of the squad so small we were relegated?
Not sure how you can offer this as a justification when it's another example of her incompetence.
The wages are an issue for the player and his new club and shouldn't impact on the fee paid unless the selling club are desperate to shift that player because they gave him prem wages but ended up in league 1.0 -
Had a very good game has Johann. You can see why Dyche likes him, he's been very organised and has tracked back.
Dyche a great manager though. Should be given a chance at a big club.3 -
Completely disagree, I think he's a limited manager who has a club at exactly the level he belongs. He seems to be the latest in the long line of English managers who claim "they never get a chance at a big club," but nothing Allardyce, Bruce, Redknapp (until Spurs), Sherwood, Dyche, etc. have ever done has indicated that they belong at one.cafcnick1992 said:Had a very good game has Johann. You can see why Dyche likes him, he's been very organised and has tracked back.
Dyche a great manager though. Should be given a chance at a big club.
Happy for Johann though, I think he has more than enough ability to play in a lower-table Premier league club. His workrate and tactical abilities were clear when playing for Iceland, and I often felt they were drastically underrated when he played for us.1 -
TBF, Pope didn't want to leaveElfsborgAddick said:
Now I know why Pope left.cafc999 said:
18k not a big figure, especially as they gave Pope 20kHenry Irving said:
I disagree. 18k would not be a huge wage for a prem club to match or increase, even Burnley.Redhenry said:
I think you missed my point. If you have to pay a player more in salary the transfer fee is going to be lower. I'm not trying to justify the large contract he was given.Henry Irving said:
So what?Redhenry said:
Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
Which football genius gave him those wages leaving the budget for the rest of the squad so small we were relegated?
Not sure how you can offer this as a justification when it's another example of her incompetence.
The wages are an issue for the player and his new club and shouldn't impact on the fee paid unless the selling club are desperate to shift that player because they gave him prem wages but ended up in league 1.3 -
Rubbish SDAddick, do you realise how difficult it is to take a crappy northern club to the prem, and recover from relegation by destroying the league. Done a bloody good job.
You're telling me someone like Swansea or Palace would have been worse off with Dyche?!7 -
Ah, ok sorry I didn't know we were talking about clubs the size of Swansea and Palace. I think that's about fair, he probably deserves a shot at a club around that level, though Swansea have a very different set-up and style of play to what he's used to. Should Hughes leave Stoke he could be in with a shout there. Ditto Pulis at West Brom (though I'm not sure that's a massive step up).cafcnick1992 said:Rubbish SDAddick, do you realise how difficult it is to take a crappy northern club to the prem, and recover from relegation by destroying the league. Done a bloody good job.
You're telling me someone like Swansea or Palace would have been worse off with Dyche?!
My point earlier was based around thinking you were saying he deserved a shot at a "top six" side. What is required at Burnley versus what is required at one of those teams is drastically different, least of all the style of play required when you're expected to win every game. I think we're seeing a bit of that with Slade now actually.0 -
But when contract got put in front of him.......cafc999 said:
TBF, Pope didn't want to leaveElfsborgAddick said:
Now I know why Pope left.cafc999 said:
18k not a big figure, especially as they gave Pope 20kHenry Irving said:
I disagree. 18k would not be a huge wage for a prem club to match or increase, even Burnley.Redhenry said:
I think you missed my point. If you have to pay a player more in salary the transfer fee is going to be lower. I'm not trying to justify the large contract he was given.Henry Irving said:
So what?Redhenry said:
Roofe wasn't on 18k a week thoughharveys gardener said:Kemar Roofe, winger played most of his career L1 or L2. No international appearances let alone goals or hat-tricks went for about a mil more than JBG. Staggering incompetence given he went a month ago and window is still open. Ditto JC who has been England age group captain for several years.
Which football genius gave him those wages leaving the budget for the rest of the squad so small we were relegated?
Not sure how you can offer this as a justification when it's another example of her incompetence.
The wages are an issue for the player and his new club and shouldn't impact on the fee paid unless the selling club are desperate to shift that player because they gave him prem wages but ended up in league 1.
I'm not being critical but money talks at the end of the day.1 -
Simone has made a managerial career of playing a Dyche-like system. I'd Dyche was Argentinian, people would be raving about himSDAddick said:
Ah, ok sorry I didn't know we were talking about clubs the size of Swansea and Palace. I think that's about fair, he probably deserves a shot at a club around that level, though Swansea have a very different set-up and style of play to what he's used to. Should Hughes leave Stoke he could be in with a shout there. Ditto Pulis at West Brom (though I'm not sure that's a massive step up).cafcnick1992 said:Rubbish SDAddick, do you realise how difficult it is to take a crappy northern club to the prem, and recover from relegation by destroying the league. Done a bloody good job.
You're telling me someone like Swansea or Palace would have been worse off with Dyche?!
My point earlier was based around thinking you were saying he deserved a shot at a "top six" side. What is required at Burnley versus what is required at one of those teams is drastically different, least of all the style of play required when you're expected to win every game. I think we're seeing a bit of that with Slade now actually.1 -
Since he finished with us last May, JBG has really improved the discipline side of his game. I guess playing for Burnley in the PL is a bit like playing for Iceland, you have to play as a team and he can't go wandering around where he likescafcnick1992 said:Had a very good game has Johann. You can see why Dyche likes him, he's been very organised and has tracked back.
Dyche a great manager though. Should be given a chance at a big club.0
