Johan Berg Gudmundsson - Burnley bid accepted

Redhenry

we had to sell he was on about 20k a week

PaddyP17

There's likely to be a sell-on in there, of which the club will likely see nothing due to some magical accounting.

And whoever said we undersold - that may be true, but 1) we're incompetent atm and 2) we were a relegated side, despite the prices bandied about in the current football economy

Redhenry

We had too many useless players on big salaries at the time. He was one of the only players we could actually sell.

Dazzler21

Redhenry said:

we had to sell he was on about 20k a week

You have to say looking back at it, on his day he was well worth it.

AllHailTheHen

Read on the BBC that the CIES research group that analyses player values puts Joe Gomez at just shy of £60m

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AllHailTheHen said:

Read on the BBC that the CIES research group that analyses player values puts Joe Gomez at just shy of £60m

Good job we got a good price for him then.....

charltonbob

PragueAddick said:

Scoham said:

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/16082833.ex-charlton-star-johann-berg-gudmundsson-linked-with-20m-move-to-newcastle-leicester-and-southampton/

£20m player now apparently...

Absolutely no surprise. Another scandalous undersell by CAFC.

To be fair Burnley did offer £10m but pinnochio managed to negotiate & beat them down

killerandflash

Redhenry said:

we had to sell he was on about 20k a week

We had been relegated to the 3rd tier. You could hardly expect him to stay, even if we could afford his wages.

kentaddick

killerandflash said:

Redhenry said:

we had to sell he was on about 20k a week

We had been relegated to the 3rd tier. You could hardly expect him to stay, even if we could afford his wages.

Especially as when he signed a new contract he was promised that we’d improve the squad to challenge for promotion to the prem.

FishCostaFortune

One of those players that some didn't really understand what they contributed to the team until they went. In my mind, alongside Gomez, the best player to have played for us in recent years.

The Red Robin

I don't think he should leave Burnley for any of those clubs. Quality player for us and still is.

killerandflash

The Red Robin said:

I don't think he should leave Burnley for any of those clubs. Quality player for us and still is.

Probably agent talk anyway.

Callumcafc

JBG, Stephens, Gomez, Kermorgant, Pope... most playing in the Prem now. If not, part of promotion winning teams. Sigh.

Callumcafc

I could see him going to Leicester as a Mahrez replacement... (not saying he's as good).

ElfsborgAddick

Was disappointed with him in his second season as he seemed to be lazy and going through the motions.

PragueAddick

Meire and RD seemed totally oblivious to a basic of English football economics. Every time a new TV deal is negotiated, player values take another twist upwards. They seemed to basing their valuations on previous years. Or probably Transfermarkt.

SDAddick

PaddyP17 said:

There's likely to be a sell-on in there, of which the club will likely see nothing due to some magical accounting.

And whoever said we undersold - that may be true, but 1) we're incompetent atm and 2) we were a relegated side, despite the prices bandied about in the current football economy

Both good points, we were not in a good negotiating place, and as Henry says we had to sell. I don't think anyone can begrudge him going to the Premier League instead of playing in League One.

But yeah the reported fee (and those are not always accurate) feels really low for a player with a big upside.

Can only hope there's a sell on fee. Given by the time a deal goes through we will hopefully have new owners, you'd expect the money to be used for good (i.e. not going directly to Roland). And even if Roland hasn't sold by the time it goes through, given there are two parties with deals in principle agreed I cannot imagine the club bringing in a substantial amount of money with that effecting the price. I have to think both parties have people who have regular access/get regular reports on accounts.

SDAddick

The Red Robin said:

I don't think he should leave Burnley for any of those clubs. Quality player for us and still is.

I don't know. Burnley have a glass ceiling and I think JBG has the potential to play at a level higher than that. I think any of the three mentioned have the potential to establish themselves at a higher level. Personally I'd rather play under Puell or Benitez. But obviously two are fighting relegation and something seems to have gone wrong with Soton (interesting to see if it was Pellegrino).

Briston_Addick

PragueAddick said:

Meire and RD seemed totally oblivious to a basic of English football economics. Every time a new TV deal is negotiated, player values take another twist upwards. They seemed to basing their valuations on previous years. Or probably Transfermarkt.

Little Tommy Driesen was still playing Football Manager 2008 ...

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One of the few highlights of recent seasons was the injury time goal he scored from about 30 yards against Cardiff on Boxing day.

One of the best goals I have ever seen scored.

Northstandpieeater

lets hope the takeover is done and dusted by the time any move happens otherwise any sell on clause is wired straight to Belgium

killerandflash

At the time I was gutted with the fee we got for JBG, but happy with the fee we got for Pope...

I thought the fee we got for Cousins (£1.25m) was ok too.

RedArmySE7

Isn't he the only player we've actually signed from another club under the RD regime that we've actually sold on for a profit?

I could be wrong?

SDAddick

RedArmySE7 said:

Isn't he the only player we've actually signed from another club under the RD regime that we've actually sold on for a profit?

I could be wrong?

No he was a free transfer because his contract had expired at AZ.

I believe we made a decent profit on Ricky Holmes. I'm really struggling to think of anyone else.

RedArmySE7

SDAddick said:

RedArmySE7 said:

Isn't he the only player we've actually signed from another club under the RD regime that we've actually sold on for a profit?

I could be wrong?

No he was a free transfer because his contract had expired at AZ.

Thanks.

Have we actually ever made a profit then? From a signed player?

SDAddick

RedArmySE7 said:

SDAddick said:

RedArmySE7 said:

Isn't he the only player we've actually signed from another club under the RD regime that we've actually sold on for a profit?

I could be wrong?

No he was a free transfer because his contract had expired at AZ.

Thanks.

Have we actually ever made a profit then? From a signed player?

Sorry added to my post, Ricky Holmes but I can't think of any others off the top of my head.

Maybe Tony Watt but that would only be down to dodgy bookkeeping to get him in, and makes the huge assumption that we got a fee for him.

SELR_addicks

Not good enough for the Premier League according to some experts on here.

He was easily one of the top 10 players in the Championship when we had him, in one of the worst teams.

Exiled_Addick

No saying we got a great price, but there has been significant inflation in transfer values (unless we're doing the selling) since we sold him, and he's now a 'proven' premier league player which adds a nought to his value on its own. 20 million just isn't that much anymore when players are moving between premier league clubs.

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Any one else we can flog off cheap?

What about Leanne the receptionist?

kentaddick

At his best it reminded me of pardew’s team with Reid, it seemed like the game plan was “if in trouble, just give it to Reid”. Ditto gudmunnson, we’d give it to him to cut inside and shoot. Teams worked it out quite quickly and made the team horribly unbalanced.