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Buy tickets at the ground? Club backtracks on £2.50 admin charge, retains £3 <2hrs pre-KO charge

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    If you go to the ticket office on, say, the Tuesday before a (Saturday) match, buy in advance, they charge you an extra £2.50.
    Exactly. It's the 21st century. Buy online.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    It's not fit for purpose.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited July 2016

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    I don't think that's correct. There's no matchday increase in U18 tickets.

    Do they really mean to charge a booking fee to people queuing up at the window on the day as well as the surcharge? I've never come across any club that charges a booking fee at the window and certainly not on a matchday.
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,700

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    That is quite a claim. For example an eleven year old might be reading this, but not have the other things needed to buy online like a credit or debit card.
    In addition what about the people who are not online?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008

    What an absolute waste of time the Target20k lot are.
    So to not pay extra we have to buy online more than 2 hours in advance and print it ourselves or use a smartphone?
    Most of the time I do that anyway but for a lot of people I know, they pay on the day when they arrive. This will put them off coming and for a group set up literally to improve attendances to be involved in this decision it is just such a farce.

    Ugly money grabbing techniques. I won't be at the valley this season.

    Surely you can buy online without charge at any time up to kick off ?

    Buy online on your phone at say 2.30 and scan your phone at the turnstile ?

    The £3 charge is to deter people paying at the ticket office, the same as other clubs do, cricket does, racing does, greyhounds do, theatre does ...........

    This is an online forum, surely people can buy tickets online ?
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    Curb_It said:

    Another classic idea from the morons running the club. Absolute arseholes.

    They ain't that good.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited July 2016

    What an absolute waste of time the Target20k lot are.
    So to not pay extra we have to buy online more than 2 hours in advance and print it ourselves or use a smartphone?
    Most of the time I do that anyway but for a lot of people I know, they pay on the day when they arrive. This will put them off coming and for a group set up literally to improve attendances to be involved in this decision it is just such a farce.

    Ugly money grabbing techniques. I won't be at the valley this season.

    Surely you can buy online without charge at any time up to kick off ?

    Buy online on your phone at say 2.30 and scan your phone at the turnstile ?

    The £3 charge is to deter people paying at the ticket office, the same as other clubs do, cricket does, racing does, greyhounds do, theatre does ...........

    This is an online forum, surely people can buy tickets online ?
    I think you'll find that they take matches offline on the day of the game. They certainly were last season. The reason is that they can't process the online transactions that they would need to process, i.e. someone asking to collect the tickets, in the run-up to kick-off.

    I think the bigger issue is charging a booking fee at the window. Is it also your view that other clubs do this? I've never come across it.
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    shirty5 said:

    Can't we get the local press to run something about this bizarre initiative ? I fail to comprehend the sentiment in penalising walk ups. People who don't know about this madness and there will be a good number will only get caught once. Anyone not knowing their availability to attend until the day of the match will certainly think twice about having to pay £5.50 extra for the privilege of watching us lose again.

    I'm stunned by the stupidity.

    I want to see Meire live on Watchdog, being slowly grilled by Anne Robinson.
    You dirty bugger :-)
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  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,700

    What an absolute waste of time the Target20k lot are.
    So to not pay extra we have to buy online more than 2 hours in advance and print it ourselves or use a smartphone?
    Most of the time I do that anyway but for a lot of people I know, they pay on the day when they arrive. This will put them off coming and for a group set up literally to improve attendances to be involved in this decision it is just such a farce.

    Ugly money grabbing techniques. I won't be at the valley this season.

    Surely you can buy online without charge at any time up to kick off ?

    Buy online on your phone at say 2.30 and scan your phone at the turnstile ?

    The £3 charge is to deter people paying at the ticket office, the same as other clubs do, cricket does, racing does, greyhounds do, theatre does ...........

    This is an online forum, surely people can buy tickets online ?
    As I said, most of the time I do do that. But a lot of people I know don't. They don't like the faff of having an online account and on numerous occasions last year they tried to and failed. If that was the case this year (which it inevitably will be unless they've changed the online system) they just simply won't come at all knowing that they'll be ripped off for paying on the day in person.

    I know other clubs do it, but they don't usually bring the policy in after being relegated and when thousands of fans are already protesting against the club.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Covered End

    Are you suggesting that each individual entering the ground has a smartphone to scan? Like all ages, and all people with different incomes. Some people have a cheap PAYG phone for emergencies and that's it, calls and texts and no more.
    Not everybody is online.
    Not everybody has a credit or even debit card...for goodness sake how does AFKA use his usual payment method of a cheque online?
    Surely you can empathise with fans who want to process a simple transaction, even to the extent of going to the ground in person in advance, and buy a ticket in cash at face value for the match?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008

    What an absolute waste of time the Target20k lot are.
    So to not pay extra we have to buy online more than 2 hours in advance and print it ourselves or use a smartphone?
    Most of the time I do that anyway but for a lot of people I know, they pay on the day when they arrive. This will put them off coming and for a group set up literally to improve attendances to be involved in this decision it is just such a farce.

    Ugly money grabbing techniques. I won't be at the valley this season.

    Surely you can buy online without charge at any time up to kick off ?

    Buy online on your phone at say 2.30 and scan your phone at the turnstile ?

    The £3 charge is to deter people paying at the ticket office, the same as other clubs do, cricket does, racing does, greyhounds do, theatre does ...........

    This is an online forum, surely people can buy tickets online ?
    I think you'll find that they take matches offline on the day of the game. They certainly were last season. The reason is that they can't process the online transactions that they would need to process, i.e. someone asking to collect the tickets, in the run-up to kick-off.

    I think the bigger issue is charging a booking fee at the window. Is it also your view that other clubs do this? I've never come across it.
    Well that would be wrong & needs clarification, because if you can buy online & scan your phone at the gate, it should be available up to KO.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    That is quite a claim. For example an eleven year old might be reading this, but not have the other things needed to buy online like a credit or debit card.
    In addition what about the people who are not online?
    You would expect a minor to get their parent to pay /sort it wouldn't you ?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited July 2016

    What an absolute waste of time the Target20k lot are.
    So to not pay extra we have to buy online more than 2 hours in advance and print it ourselves or use a smartphone?
    Most of the time I do that anyway but for a lot of people I know, they pay on the day when they arrive. This will put them off coming and for a group set up literally to improve attendances to be involved in this decision it is just such a farce.

    Ugly money grabbing techniques. I won't be at the valley this season.

    Surely you can buy online without charge at any time up to kick off ?

    Buy online on your phone at say 2.30 and scan your phone at the turnstile ?

    The £3 charge is to deter people paying at the ticket office, the same as other clubs do, cricket does, racing does, greyhounds do, theatre does ...........

    This is an online forum, surely people can buy tickets online ?
    I think you'll find that they take matches offline on the day of the game. They certainly were last season. The reason is that they can't process the online transactions that they would need to process, i.e. someone asking to collect the tickets, in the run-up to kick-off.

    I think the bigger issue is charging a booking fee at the window. Is it also your view that other clubs do this? I've never come across it.
    Well that would be wrong & needs clarification, because if you can buy online & scan your phone at the gate, it should be available up to KO.
    The other problem is that each seat would then have to have two different sets of adults/18-21/65+ prices on the system, one for window sales and one for online, because of the £3 increase, even if they could restrict sales to "print at home" and block the collect option. So I think you'll find it won't be happening!
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    That is quite a claim. For example an eleven year old might be reading this, but not have the other things needed to buy online like a credit or debit card.
    In addition what about the people who are not online?
    You would expect a minor to get their parent to pay /sort it wouldn't you ?
    How about people not online or without smartphones?
    Or even reasonable members of the local community who read about the football in the Mercury or Newsshopper or something, and want to pop by the Valley to pay cash for a ticket or two?
    Why should these people be penalised, even alienated, and deterred from attending?

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    That is quite a claim. For example an eleven year old might be reading this, but not have the other things needed to buy online like a credit or debit card.
    In addition what about the people who are not online?
    You would expect a minor to get their parent to pay /sort it wouldn't you ?
    Not every minor has a parent looking after them.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    You should have to buy online - it's freedom of choice. It's a matter of principle.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    That is quite a claim. For example an eleven year old might be reading this, but not have the other things needed to buy online like a credit or debit card.
    In addition what about the people who are not online?
    You would expect a minor to get their parent to pay /sort it wouldn't you ?
    Not every minor has a parent looking after them.
    Their guardian then.
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,428
    Remember the saying 'the customer is king'? Where CAFC is concerned, the customer is just a bloody nuisance and an irrelevance.
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited July 2016

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    That is quite a claim. For example an eleven year old might be reading this, but not have the other things needed to buy online like a credit or debit card.
    In addition what about the people who are not online?
    You would expect a minor to get their parent to pay /sort it wouldn't you ?
    Not every minor has a parent looking after them.
    Their guardian then.
    Are you also going to respond to my points about not having a smartphone, or are not online, and are prepared to make the effort to be a personal caller to the Valley?
    This is nothing to do with moaning for moaning sake in case that's how you want to respond. It is about practicality, and treating a range of fans reasonably.
  • 3blokes
    3blokes Posts: 4,610
    edited July 2016
    I think the issue on this is we have just been relegated after much supporter dissatisfaction, you might have thought they would be doing their utmost to pull fans back to the club. This is hardly likely to be viewed as an attractive "lessons learned" initiative.
    Personally I would have thought that you can only do this sort of thing on your way up, not on the way down which is our recent direction thanks to the general incompetence of this administration.
    Still, cutting costs tactics and passing those costs to the customer is always a good selling point to customers right ?
  • LordDofB
    LordDofB Posts: 205
    They don't want us there.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    edited July 2016
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    That is quite a claim. For example an eleven year old might be reading this, but not have the other things needed to buy online like a credit or debit card.
    In addition what about the people who are not online?
    You would expect a minor to get their parent to pay /sort it wouldn't you ?
    How about people not online or without smartphones?
    Or even reasonable members of the local community who read about the football in the Mercury or Newsshopper or something, and want to pop by the Valley to pay cash for a ticket or two?
    Why should these people be penalised, even alienated, and deterred from attending?

    They will have to get someone else to buy it for them or pay the extra.

    I know it's not ideal, but I would have thought an online forum would understand that the internet has taken over and other forms of payment are becoming outdated.

    Anyway, if it reduces Roland's revenue that's what we all want isn't it ?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,562
    A lot of elderly people are not on line, what do they do? Suck up the extra charge and keep quiet. Oh no, these are exactly the fans KM is happy to see the back of.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,622
    Can't we get the local press to run something about this
    LordDofB said:

    They don't want us there.


    That's such a ridiculous statement but you do have to wonder.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Thanks for you response.

    They will have to get someone else to buy it for them or pay the extra.

    Just like that? I can think of at least three predictable problems with that stance before even trying.

    I am on the internet so I have a slight understanding of the modern world, but the internet has not taken over for everybody, and not all forms of payment are available to everybody.

    Personally I would like to pay contactless directly at the turnstyle, the face value as I enter the stadium. Thats a reasonable 'tech savvy' stance to take. Alternatively I would like to turn up in person midweek and pay cash in advance.

    Both of those options I have mentioned seem reasonable to me, even if one is steam powered, and one is streamlined.

    What we have here is a user unfriendly system. And incredibly narrow and inflexible. I can't see how resistance and criticism of this stupid system is somehow Luddite, and I can't see how you can (apparently) defend a system that will rip off personal callers paying in cash.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    That is quite a claim. For example an eleven year old might be reading this, but not have the other things needed to buy online like a credit or debit card.
    In addition what about the people who are not online?
    You would expect a minor to get their parent to pay /sort it wouldn't you ?
    Not every minor has a parent looking after them.
    Their guardian then.
    Are you also going to respond to my points about not having a smartphone, or are not online, and are prepared to make the effort to be a personal caller to the Valley?
    This is nothing to do with moaning for moaning sake in case that's how you want to respond. It is about practicality, and treating a range of fans reasonably.
    If you don't have a smartphone, buy online the day before. Buy before 1pm on the day or pay the extra charge after 1pm.

    If you're not online I'm sure virtually everyone knows someone that is and could do it for them.

    Seth, you don't need to make the effort to take an hour out of your day to travel to The Valley.
    The internet has arrived, buy it online for free.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,227

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    Agreed, so buy online. Everyone reading this surely has the capability ?
    I would assume so but we're mostly people already committed to the club, not casual fans.

    The issue isn't that it is impossible to buy online (although others say the site isn't very workable) but that it is cart before horse.

    The club want to save costs in the ticket office so make it harder and more expensive to buy in person or in the run up to the match to deter sales and in their mind save money on staff.

    The club SHOULD be wanted to increase gates and attract new fans so should be making it easier to buy tickets in person and in the run up to the match and not punish fans who do by making it more expensive.

    They could still incentivise on-line and earlier tickets in other ways eg book on line and be entered into a free draw to win a signed shirt/seats on the sofa/evening with Colin.

    They could improve the ticketing site, promote it more, make it easier to buy tickets for friends.

    The club should be bending over backwards to make it simple to purchase their core project but they're not. As usual they just haven't thought this through at all.

    Even Target20k are now saying that don't support the idea.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,227

    seth plum said:

    I thought most clubs charged more at the gate than buying in advance.

    Except Charlton are charging more than face value for buying in advance.
    Unique.
    Is this correct ?

    Home tickets - If you buy online (presuming it works) you don't pay extra, unless you are calling the £1 postal charge extra & it's fair enough that they don't lose money on the postage.

    If you print your own ticket it costs nothing.

    If you collect your ticket it costs nothing. No difference collecting or buying imo.

    I presume everyone on here can work out how to buy online can't they ? (presuming it works).

    Away tickets - buy online & pay the £1 postage.

    It all seems pretty standard to me. No different to cricket or racing .

    I'm all for getting the regime out, but this site is fast becoming a whinge fest.
    £2.50 if you buy at the ticket office

    £3 extra per ticket plus £2.50 if you buy at 1.05pm on a Saturday. So a dad, mum and two kids pay an extra £14.50. Or they could try and buy on line while in the queue, hope the wi-fi and the ticket system is working, pick tickets on a phone when they don't know the stands well and hope they get four together.

    Or a club with under 6k STs and likely to have 17k empty seats could just get a real human being to say "Yes, we'd love to sell you a ticket to see our team, where would you like to sit? no extra charge as we really want you to come back again and again".

    And all this when we know the on-line booking system isn't fit for purpose.
    I don't think that's correct. There's no matchday increase in U18 tickets.

    Do they really mean to charge a booking fee to people queuing up at the window on the day as well as the surcharge? I've never come across any club that charges a booking fee at the window and certainly not on a matchday.
    You are almost certainly right but isn't that the point.

    it's not clear, it hasn't been explained well, just sneaked out in the hope it won't be noticed.

    So if it confuses some on here how will a casual or first time fan react? Sod this, I'll go to the cinema where you can both buy online in advance (which I usually do) or from a person on the day instead.