I was at a carnival party on a 3rd floor flat roof, right on top of Ladbroke Grove a few years ago. The stuff I saw going on beneath me was eye opening. Its crazy how out of control the crowds are on the Monday evening around that area.
What stuff did you see going on ?
I don't think it should be banned. I think it should be relocated to Hyde Park & ticketed, so the million can enjoy themselves and have a great time, without being at risk of being stabbed and sexually assaulted by the 500/1000 there for trouble.
I would also assume (maybe wrongly), that it would become more family friendly with more women and children being able to attend.
I am certain this number would have been far greater if it wasn't for the pre carnival police work that had taken place. There was background policing going on weeks prior to this event. How much does this stabfest cost the taxpayer every year? Following the amount of black people that wish to stab each other, I am surprised the black lives matter mob haven't asked for it to be banned indefinitely.
"Following the amount of black people that wish to stab each other, I am surprised the black lives matter mob haven't asked for it to be banned indefinitely".
why don't Black lives matter tackle the problem of black on black stabbings and murders ?
"Following the amount of black people that wish to stab each other, I am surprised the black lives matter mob haven't asked for it to be banned indefinitely".
why don't Black lives matter tackle the problem of black on black stabbings and murders ?
"Following the amount of black people that wish to stab each other, I am surprised the black lives matter mob haven't asked for it to be banned indefinitely".
why don't Black lives matter tackle the problem of black on black stabbings and murders ?
I think there was a previous thread on this which I commented on.
I have a good friend who is in the Territorial Support Group (or whatever it's been named to now).
He says it is the weekend they all absolutely dread. Woefully undermanned and have to let loads of stuff go rather than arrest. Stories of walking through the crowd with colleagues to then find slash marks and spit all over their back.
I also have another friend that lives just off the main route but loves the whole event, although several times she's had to shout at people pissing (and worse) in her front garden.
It's not for me and I imagine the cost must be absolutely huge. Not sure I'm entirely correct but think I saw the police numbers were around 5000, that can't be cheap.
City Airport closed this morning by 'Black Lives Matter' because:
Speaking to BBC London, group member Joshua Virasami added: "The community where this airport is is a predominantly black community. "In Britain, 28% of black people are more likely to be exposed to air pollution...being in closest proximity to the industries causing climate change."
City Airport closed this morning by 'Black Lives Matter' because:
Speaking to BBC London, group member Joshua Virasami added: "The community where this airport is is a predominantly black community. "In Britain, 28% of black people are more likely to be exposed to air pollution...being in closest proximity to the industries causing climate change."
Really? how I long for a Britain whereby we are allowed to move house if we feel like it...........
I was at a carnival party on a 3rd floor flat roof, right on top of Ladbroke Grove a few years ago. The stuff I saw going on beneath me was eye opening. Its crazy how out of control the crowds are on the Monday evening around that area.
What stuff did you see going on ?
I don't think it should be banned. I think it should be relocated to Hyde Park & ticketed, so the million can enjoy themselves and have a great time, without being at risk of being stabbed and sexually assaulted by the 500/1000 there for trouble.
I would also assume (maybe wrongly), that it would become more family friendly with more women and children being able to attend.
When you look down on the crowd you see islands of police all watching each others backs who can't/won't move amongst crushing waves of people. You can also see the wronguns streaming through the crowd in single file snakes just feet away from the coppers robbing and threatening people but nothing is done. Ladbroke Grove needs sorting because one day there's going to be a serious mass casualty event down that end.
The main issue for me is the reporting and perception vs football and the police tactics vs football.
Trust me if the police managed that carnival in the same manner they police the football those arrest figures would bloody quadruple and some. I know a lad in the MET unit who deal with these type of events and he openly admits a big percentage of the police love policing football as they can do what the hell they want and generally it's an easy ride. They hate policing the carnival and animal rights protests etc.
I believe 30 England fans were arrested over the MONTH of euro 2016 but it was in the news constantly and the general public were taking about it (branding them/us as scum, an embarrassment to the Country etc etc)
Yet I would wager than 95% of the population have no idea of what happens/happened at the carnival and you don't have know it all celebs and carnival people etc coming out criticising them.
I also assume those arrested don't have their mugs plastered over the papers, get banned from future events, get jail time, have to hand their passports in if ever there is a carnival in another country etc etc - you get the point.
Look at the reaction to the few Chelsea fans singing a racist SONG in Paris and the fallout. Then compare that to the type of crimes at this event every year - sexual assaults and stabbing.
We all know why 1. It's policed differently and 2. The lack of reporting of what occurs. And that's what annoys me.
So yes make it ticketed and make them go through the same shit I have to when following England - police checks before to join the club, police checks again at airports, collecting my ticket with further I.d. checks in Slovakia, passport check to get in the ground, searched twice going into the ground all whist being watched by hundreds of huge robocops, just waiting for a chance to break bones.
Oh yeah and we pay £100's for the privilege. Grrrrrrr.
as someone who lives right in the middle of it, I fucking hate it and flee the area when it's on, I don't see why I should have to!
When I arrived back at my flat on the bank holiday Monday evening at about 11pm, the surrounding area was a shit hole, literally. The area was completely trashed and stank.
Of course for those people who go, the beauty is, you stay for as little or as long as you like and go home when you like, but if you live there like me, that isn't an option.
It's far too big these days and the area can't cope with the minority arse holes who are just intent on causing mayhem and trouble.
Many a time I've thought about buying a snipers rifle and taking out the fucking whistle sellers, they really piss me off!
I even sent my hotel bill and petrol expenses one year to the council and asked them to pay for my inconvenience but of course they didn't.
If it's to continue, it should be moved somewhere else, preferably another country!
Why have those idiots at City Airport been brought up in this thread? Completely off topic imo.
I just saw how long it took the old bill to get the bloke on the 8 foot tripod down. 30+ officers and it took over 90 minutes! They must have been on overtime.
They should of just got a sledgehammer and knocked one of the legs away, fuck the health n safety brigade, if the dickhead wants to waste people's time and sit on it, then get him down as quick as, by any means possible, shouldn't be there in the first place. Or better still fire up on the planes engines and let the thrust blow him in the dock, problem solved.
Well it had been going nearly 30 years by then, so you must have known it was local, even if it has expanded since? I live across the road from a pub that was a quiet locals place, then empty for years. Now it is open until 4AM and is one of "the places to be" for the youth of Albufeira. I accept that I bought a house opposite a pub, and paid the going rate for a house opposite a pub. And that's 6 nights a week 52 weeks of the year, not 3 days in 365.
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I don't think it should be banned. I think it should be relocated to Hyde Park & ticketed, so the million can enjoy themselves and have a great time, without being at risk of being stabbed and sexually assaulted by the 500/1000 there for trouble.
I would also assume (maybe wrongly), that it would become more family friendly with more women and children being able to attend.
There was background policing going on weeks prior to this event.
How much does this stabfest cost the taxpayer every year?
Following the amount of black people that wish to stab each other, I am surprised the black lives matter mob haven't asked for it to be banned indefinitely.
"Following the amount of black people that wish to stab each other, I am surprised the black lives matter mob haven't asked for it to be banned indefinitely".
why don't Black lives matter tackle the problem of black on black stabbings and murders ?
why don't Black lives matter tackle the problem of black on black stabbings and murders ?
because its all the white mans fault.
why don't Black lives matter tackle the problem of black on black stabbings and murders ?
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/hey-black-lives-matter-uk-heres-perspective-glastonbury-vs-notting-hill-carnival/
I have a good friend who is in the Territorial Support Group (or whatever it's been named to now).
He says it is the weekend they all absolutely dread. Woefully undermanned and have to let loads of stuff go rather than arrest. Stories of walking through the crowd with colleagues to then find slash marks and spit all over their back.
I also have another friend that lives just off the main route but loves the whole event, although several times she's had to shout at people pissing (and worse) in her front garden.
It's not for me and I imagine the cost must be absolutely huge. Not sure I'm entirely correct but think I saw the police numbers were around 5000, that can't be cheap.
Speaking to BBC London, group member Joshua Virasami added: "The community where this airport is is a predominantly black community.
"In Britain, 28% of black people are more likely to be exposed to air pollution...being in closest proximity to the industries causing climate change."
All of them anti-climate billionaires retuning to Monaco, of course.
Trust me if the police managed that carnival in the same manner they police the football those arrest figures would bloody quadruple and some. I know a lad in the MET unit who deal with these type of events and he openly admits a big percentage of the police love policing football as they can do what the hell they want and generally it's an easy ride. They hate policing the carnival and animal rights protests etc.
I believe 30 England fans were arrested over the MONTH of euro 2016 but it was in the news constantly and the general public were taking about it (branding them/us as scum, an embarrassment to the Country etc etc)
Yet I would wager than 95% of the population have no idea of what happens/happened at the carnival and you don't have know it all celebs and carnival people etc coming out criticising them.
I also assume those arrested don't have their mugs plastered over the papers, get banned from future events, get jail time, have to hand their passports in if ever there is a carnival in another country etc etc - you get the point.
Look at the reaction to the few Chelsea fans singing a racist SONG in Paris and the fallout. Then compare that to the type of crimes at this event every year - sexual assaults and stabbing.
We all know why 1. It's policed differently and 2. The lack of reporting of what occurs. And that's what annoys me.
So yes make it ticketed and make them go through the same shit I have to when following England - police checks before to join the club, police checks again at airports, collecting my ticket with further I.d. checks in Slovakia, passport check to get in the ground, searched twice going into the ground all whist being watched by hundreds of huge robocops, just waiting for a chance to break bones.
Oh yeah and we pay £100's for the privilege. Grrrrrrr.
When I arrived back at my flat on the bank holiday Monday evening at about 11pm, the surrounding area was a shit hole, literally. The area was completely trashed and stank.
Of course for those people who go, the beauty is, you stay for as little or as long as you like and go home when you like, but if you live there like me, that isn't an option.
It's far too big these days and the area can't cope with the minority arse holes who are just intent on causing mayhem and trouble.
Many a time I've thought about buying a snipers rifle and taking out the fucking whistle sellers, they really piss me off!
I even sent my hotel bill and petrol expenses one year to the council and asked them to pay for my inconvenience but of course they didn't.
If it's to continue, it should be moved somewhere else, preferably another country!