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    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
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    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
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    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.
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    At least we still have 'Egg'....
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    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.
    The blokes an absolute c*nt
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    Gutted. It was a great club.

    It will also damage the economy as more and more people will go to cities like Berlin regularly to get their clubbing fix. Spending their money there and not here.
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    Don't worry, some wanky PR or design agency will now take the space left by Fabric.

    Haven't been for years, but do wonder how much worse the drug culture is there than some posh club in Knightsbridge.
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    http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/sadiq-tells-time-out-i-dont-want-fabric-closing-down-its-a-great-night-out-090216
    Sadiq said:

    'I went to Fabric when I was younger. It was a great place to go. It was a great night out. What’s important, though, is that there’s a new generation of people who want to go clubbing. And it’s important that the council work with the police and others to address the concerns that people have got.’



    ’I don’t want Fabric closing down,I don’t want other nightclubs closing down. I don’t want live music venues closing down. I want an environment where we don’t just preserve our heritage, but also one where we can have new nightclubs opening.'



    ‘Certain people have been given the impression that it’s me pulling the levers with Fabric; it isn’t, it’s a local authority issue. Mayors can do a huge amount. Fabric’s a good example. I’ve got no direct powers over Fabric, but I can speak to the council and speak to the police to see if there’s a resolution to be found. I’m not pretending I have all the powers I want.'



    ‘No-one wants a situation where clubs or music venues are closing down. It’s really important. It’s my job as mayor to create an environment where nightclubs can flourish.'

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    Keeping everything crossed for my fave, "Tena".

    One of the few remaining where Bouncers turn their blind eye to Steradent tabs & Phyllosan shots....

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    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.
    The blokes an absolute c*nt
    I can't believe you said that.
    His grandparents migrated from India to Pakistan following the partition of India in 1947, and his parents migrated to England from Pakistan shortly before Khan was born. His late father, Amanullah Khan, worked as a bus driver for over 25 years; his mother, Sehrun, was a seamstress.
    Oh yeah sorry. And he also 'Went to Fabric when he was younger'!

    Complete shite.
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    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.
    The blokes an absolute c*nt
    I can't believe you said that.
    His grandparents migrated from India to Pakistan following the partition of India in 1947, and his parents migrated to England from Pakistan shortly before Khan was born. His late father, Amanullah Khan, worked as a bus driver for over 25 years; his mother, Sehrun, was a seamstress.
    Oh yeah sorry. And he also 'Went to Fabric when he was younger'!

    Complete shite.
    Whoosh ?
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    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.
    The blokes an absolute c*nt
    I can't believe you said that.
    His grandparents migrated from India to Pakistan following the partition of India in 1947, and his parents migrated to England from Pakistan shortly before Khan was born. His late father, Amanullah Khan, worked as a bus driver for over 25 years; his mother, Sehrun, was a seamstress.
    Oh yeah sorry. And he also 'Went to Fabric when he was younger'!

    Complete shite.
    Whoosh ?
    Sense the sarcasm.
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    ^Bizarre.
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    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.

    Weird. Licensing is a function of the local council. The Mayor can lobby but he has no power whatsoever.
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    Jints said:

    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.

    Weird. Licensing is a function of the local council. The Mayor can lobby but he has no power whatsoever.
    Bit weird making a policy then, no?
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    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.
    The blokes an absolute c*nt
    I can't believe you said that.
    His grandparents migrated from India to Pakistan following the partition of India in 1947, and his parents migrated to England from Pakistan shortly before Khan was born. His late father, Amanullah Khan, worked as a bus driver for over 25 years; his mother, Sehrun, was a seamstress.
    Oh yeah sorry. And he also 'Went to Fabric when he was younger'!

    Complete shite.
    Whoosh ?
    I don't think he was the only one....
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    edited September 2016

    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.
    The blokes an absolute c*nt
    I can't believe you said that.
    His grandparents migrated from India to Pakistan following the partition of India in 1947, and his parents migrated to England from Pakistan shortly before Khan was born. His late father, Amanullah Khan, worked as a bus driver for over 25 years; his mother, Sehrun, was a seamstress.
    Oh yeah sorry. And he also 'Went to Fabric when he was younger'!

    Complete shite.
    Whoosh ?
    I don't think he was the only one....
    I thought people would get it, obviously not.

    Sadiq Khan made reference in every interview I heard and in every election leaflet I read, to the fact that, "his late father, Amanullah Khan, worked as a bus driver for over 25 years and his mother, Sehrun, was a seamstress."

    I must have heard & read it at least 100 times. Mind you it did him no harm.
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    So did he go to fabric then?
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    Don't forget the fact that he was brought up on a council estate. That always gets an airing as well.
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    Rothko said:

    Was only there a month ago.
    A London institution gone, thanks sadiq you complete arsehole.

    Nothing to do with the major who has released a statement saying hes disappointed with his news.
    He even went to the trouble of sending a tweet last week too, bless him. Been busy fighting fabrics corner, obviously.

    In all seriousness though, he could and should of played a much more integral part here but he hasn't.
    But he can't because the Mayor can't change licensing decisions of London Boroughs
    One of his policies was to save London nightlife.
    How is allowing this to happen now a problem of the borough?

    You can bet your bottom dollar that if fabric had been kept going he would be there to take the plaudits and claim he's kept to his policy.

    He's let people down, that much is clear from the replies via social media of people feeing as of their vote has been wasted.
    The blokes an absolute c*nt
    I can't believe you said that.
    His grandparents migrated from India to Pakistan following the partition of India in 1947, and his parents migrated to England from Pakistan shortly before Khan was born. His late father, Amanullah Khan, worked as a bus driver for over 25 years; his mother, Sehrun, was a seamstress.
    Oh yeah sorry. And he also 'Went to Fabric when he was younger'!

    Complete shite.
    Whoosh ?
    I don't think he was the only one....
    I thought people would get it, obviously not.

    Sadiq Khan made reference in every interview I heard and in every election leaflet I read, to the fact that, "his late father, Amanullah Khan, worked as a bus driver for over 25 years and his mother, Sehrun, was a seamstress."

    I must have heard & read it at least 100 times. Mind you it did him no harm.
    No i got it, i was taking the same tone you used in my post, hence why i said 'sense the sarcasm'.
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    Shutdown because they couldn't stop people abusing drugs on their site.

    Seems fair but then I'm not a clubby type who needs pills, powders and herbal smokes to have a good night.

    Just to clarify I understand there are other clubby types not addicted to drugs.

    Either way I ain't one!
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    'Needs' 'Addicted' 'Fucking Clown'

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    If Fabric weren't doing anything about it then that's one thing, but from people on Twitter (and a few people I worked with last year) it seems Fabric was actually pretty good security wise?s
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    I feel I am somehow having to defend our organisation as being an obstructive operator, creating and protecting a dangerous environment. The only time we stood up to the police in 17 years was by refusing two conditions out of 53 they wanted to punish us with in 2014 and I might add were proven entirely correct by a District Judge that they did not support the licensing objectives.

    We have always been immensely proud of the close working relationship we have enjoyed with both the Met Police and particularly Islington Council.

    A quick snapshot of some of the initiatives we have launched together:
    • A Police instigated youth outreach music program, getting seriously damaged kids from De Beauvoir Estate in to music programs at the Club
    • Launched the Safer Travel in London initiative
    • Date rape drug awareness initiative
    • The Hollaback anti-harassment program
    • We were pioneering in tackling the blight of mobile phone theft. Creating much of the assets and procedures used by other London venues
    • Founder members of the City Of London police independent advisory group
    • We host police dog training and tactical fire arms training
    • Islington always include fabric in purple flag assessment
    • Founders and ongoing chair of the EC1 Pub and Club watch

    We have always been a first port of call as a partner to work with on any public initiative.

    Drugs are a constantly evolving challenge for clubs like ours and given the circumstances we have of course voluntarily reviewed all our processes and as always we are eager to work with the police on anything else we can do to keep people safe. But venues are so far downstream on their ability to fight these challenges, trying to locate items as small as this one—a person wearing winter coat and bag, maybe up to 25 pockets per person, 2,500 people per night. That could be 62,500 pockets, and that's before you get to the complexities of bras or underwear or things hidden in intimate places.

    Drug-taking is endemic in British society and there's not a shred of evidence anywhere to suggest closing nightclubs will somehow either lower drug harm or eliminate consumption. It's a smokescreen for a drug policy that has consistently failed over a 50-year period. Short of performing a colonoscopy on every clubber, it's impossible to eliminate all drug use in clubs and, indeed, anywhere else.

    These are the challenges we face as a night-time operator.

    It is a sad but unavoidable fact that it is not possible to remove all drugs from circulation within a nightclub. And even if it were, people would still attend the venue having taken drugs prior to their arrival. It is for this reason that fabric fights the battle with drug use on two fronts: prevention and harm mitigation.

    It is of course entirely realistic to expect businesses to develop strong strategies to minimise harm and crime and fabric over the years has been proud of adopting best practice.

    We believe we are presenting to you a series of compelling and cohesive points of improvement. We are constantly reinventing our operation, we have always tried to stay ahead of the game. I would like to reiterate my point that 35 of the 53 conditions Islington sought to impose upon us at the 2014 review were our own initiatives, business improvements we had introduced voluntarily. We want to work with police and the council to try and create a gold standard for clubbing safety. Implementing these strategies requires considerable business investment and you need professional and established operations like fabric to stay open.

    We could be bold, like Amsterdam and Berlin, which regard nightlife not as a social disorder issue but a tourist attraction or we could be like New York, where neoliberal policies have all but destroyed what was once the most musically innovative and vital club scene in the world. We need the police to work with businesses like us to help them keep people safe, not to demonise us.

    If we are going to take that finger-pointing approach, why have the police not stopped drugs from coming in to Britain or being on our streets? Has it become the sole responsibility of nightclubs and some bars to be the last line of defence?

    In a climate where pills are circulating the UK with almost four times the dosage of MDMA of most found during the late '90s, what is absolutely urgent in order to prevent more deaths is not the closure of one venue, but the systematic education of young people on the risks and repercussions of the drugs they are taking, up to date and accurate information on dangerously potent batches in the current market, education on recognising warning signs of overdose amongst friends and how to respond.
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    Rumours of a stitch up due to the location and CrossRail...?
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    LuckyReds said:

    Rumours of a stitch up due to the location and CrossRail...?

    Apparently London Museum are looking at transforming that whole area. If the council and police have used the death of young two boys for this purpose then its lower than low.
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    That is an absolutely brilliant speech.
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