Paul Cook... Very successful elsewhere... Fails at Ipswich.
Nigel Adkins... Very successful elsewhere... Fails at Charlton.
That's just football isn't it. No grand conspiracies, outside meddling, or structural issues, etc. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Good managers can fail on their own doing.
The older I get the more convinced I am that, with very few exceptions at either end, there isn't such thing as a good or bad football manager. Just right and wrong ones. Some fit like a pair of slippers, some don't. Often without rhyme or reason.
Saying that the more complex the structure is the less chance you have of getting the right one because there are more interactions that can be wrong.
Paul Cook... Very successful elsewhere... Fails at Ipswich.
Nigel Adkins... Very successful elsewhere... Fails at Charlton.
That's just football isn't it. No grand conspiracies, outside meddling, or structural issues, etc. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Good managers can fail on their own doing.
The older I get the more convinced I am that, with very few exceptions at either end, there isn't such thing as a good or bad football manager. Just right and wrong ones. Some fit like a pair of slippers, some don't. Often without rhyme or reason.
Saying that the more complex the structure is the less chance you have of getting the right one because there are more interactions that can be wrong.
That's true to a certain extent. David Moyes is clearly a good manager but he was useless at United, Sunderland and Sociedad.
Bobby Robson terrible in his first job at Fulham, then became a legend in his next at Ipswich and the rest is history.
Rafa Benitez's first 2 jobs in Spain saw him sacked from both within a year, winning a combined 3 league games out of 32.
Ranieri won the league at Leicester, when he went to Fulham he was awful and lasted about 3 months.
Very very few managers are great everywhere they go.
Paul Cook... Very successful elsewhere... Fails at Ipswich.
Nigel Adkins... Very successful elsewhere... Fails at Charlton.
That's just football isn't it. No grand conspiracies, outside meddling, or structural issues, etc. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Good managers can fail on their own doing.
The older I get the more convinced I am that, with very few exceptions at either end, there isn't such thing as a good or bad football manager. Just right and wrong ones. Some fit like a pair of slippers, some don't. Often without rhyme or reason.
Saying that the more complex the structure is the less chance you have of getting the right one because there are more interactions that can be wrong.
Agree, dowie, pardew, slade, Luzon, all had success elsewhere before they were rubbish for us. One exception.....
fraye or whatever the waste of space was called. He will never be successful anywhere he goes
Paul Cook... Very successful elsewhere... Fails at Ipswich.
Nigel Adkins... Very successful elsewhere... Fails at Charlton.
That's just football isn't it. No grand conspiracies, outside meddling, or structural issues, etc. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Good managers can fail on their own doing.
The older I get the more convinced I am that, with very few exceptions at either end, there isn't such thing as a good or bad football manager. Just right and wrong ones. Some fit like a pair of slippers, some don't. Often without rhyme or reason.
Saying that the more complex the structure is the less chance you have of getting the right one because there are more interactions that can be wrong.
Agree, dowie, pardew, slade, Luzon, all had success elsewhere before they were rubbish for us. One exception.....
fraye or whatever the waste of space was called. He will never be successful anywhere he goes
I don't know Toddy, Fraeye might make a good launderette manager.
He deserves it, not just saying so it cripples Plymouth
Has done very well for the most part in his Managerial reign so far
Be interesting to see if he can carry on his impressive work at Plymouth to another team. Another team in a higher division ins completely different part of the country will be a big adjustment for him.
Not to downplay his achievements but if you look at the likes of Eddie Howe sometimes a great manager for one club doesn't always mean great manager at another.
The sporting director at Everton was obviously the problem........
If he was responsible for their signings then that's pretty obvious. They've spent over 300m whilst he was there and gone backwards.
I don't disagree, especially if it was him that signed 5 10s in the same window but it was more tongue in cheek that they won as soon as they sacked him.
He deserves it, not just saying so it cripples Plymouth
Has done very well for the most part in his Managerial reign so far
Be interesting to see if he can carry on his impressive work at Plymouth to another team. Another team in a higher division ins completely different part of the country will be a big adjustment for him.
Not to downplay his achievements but if you look at the likes of Eddie Howe sometimes a great manager for one club doesn't always mean great manager at another.
Dont forget Lowe had that success at Bury as well
Effectively won promotion in back to back seasons with Bury and Plymouth.
He did very well at a player in the Manchester / Liverpool area (more so than elsewhere) so is certainly going back home to an extent - Wonder if that too is going to be a bit of a lure as well for him.
He deserves it, not just saying so it cripples Plymouth
Has done very well for the most part in his Managerial reign so far
Be interesting to see if he can carry on his impressive work at Plymouth to another team. Another team in a higher division ins completely different part of the country will be a big adjustment for him.
Not to downplay his achievements but if you look at the likes of Eddie Howe sometimes a great manager for one club doesn't always mean great manager at another.
So many variables, like does Schumacher go with him or does he want the Plymouth job himself? Lowe (and Schumacher) was at Bury before Plymouth so not that much of an unfamiliar part of the country.
Howe was exactly the right manager for Bournemouth and the wrong one for Burnley, who knows if he is the right one for Newcastle, or anyone else.
He deserves it, not just saying so it cripples Plymouth
Has done very well for the most part in his Managerial reign so far
Be interesting to see if he can carry on his impressive work at Plymouth to another team. Another team in a higher division ins completely different part of the country will be a big adjustment for him.
Not to downplay his achievements but if you look at the likes of Eddie Howe sometimes a great manager for one club doesn't always mean great manager at another.
So many variables, like does Schumacher go with him or does he want the Plymouth job himself? Lowe (and Schumacher) was at Bury before Plymouth so not that much of an unfamiliar part of the country.
Howe was exactly the right manager for Bournemouth and the wrong one for Burnley, who knows if he is the right one for Newcastle, or anyone else.
Both Lowe and Schumacher are scousers, so Preston is returning more or less home, whereas Howe was leaving his home area to go to Burnley
The thing about Preston, is that they're a midtable Championship club. They don't have the crowds or sugar daddy to be a regular top 6 club, so realistically what can he achieve? They're a bit like Millwall, a good season will see them flirting with the playoffs, a bad season will see them flirting with the bottom 3, but generally they finish midtable
He deserves it, not just saying so it cripples Plymouth
Has done very well for the most part in his Managerial reign so far
Be interesting to see if he can carry on his impressive work at Plymouth to another team. Another team in a higher division ins completely different part of the country will be a big adjustment for him.
Not to downplay his achievements but if you look at the likes of Eddie Howe sometimes a great manager for one club doesn't always mean great manager at another.
Dont forget Lowe had that success at Bury as well
Effectively won promotion in back to back seasons with Bury and Plymouth.
He did very well at a player in the Manchester / Liverpool area (more so than elsewhere) so is certainly going back home to an extent - Wonder if that too is going to be a bit of a lure as well for him.
That is true, certainly I would be surprised if he doesn't do well at Preston but its definitely a gamble in terms of his career. He does well, he's jumped straight into contention for other Championship jobs and maybe beyond, if it does go wrong he risks being seen as a "lower league manager."
We will hopefully see a new generation of managers coming through in the likes of Lowe and Jackson that will eventually lead to the end of the likes of Bruce being appointed purely on name recognition.
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One of the coaches sacked was the goalkeeping coach, it seems a bit drastic to sack him as well!
Saying that the more complex the structure is the less chance you have of getting the right one because there are more interactions that can be wrong.
Bobby Robson terrible in his first job at Fulham, then became a legend in his next at Ipswich and the rest is history.
Rafa Benitez's first 2 jobs in Spain saw him sacked from both within a year, winning a combined 3 league games out of 32.
Ranieri won the league at Leicester, when he went to Fulham he was awful and lasted about 3 months.
Very very few managers are great everywhere they go.
fraye or whatever the waste of space was called. He will never be successful anywhere he goes
Championship side Preston North End have sacked head coach Frankie McAvoy.
The Scot, 54, was appointed in May after a spell as interim boss following Alex Neil's departure in March.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59557063
Has done very well for the most part in his Managerial reign so far
Not to downplay his achievements but if you look at the likes of Eddie Howe sometimes a great manager for one club doesn't always mean great manager at another.
Effectively won promotion in back to back seasons with Bury and Plymouth.
He did very well at a player in the Manchester / Liverpool area (more so than elsewhere) so is certainly going back home to an extent - Wonder if that too is going to be a bit of a lure as well for him.
Howe was exactly the right manager for Bournemouth and the wrong one for Burnley, who knows if he is the right one for Newcastle, or anyone else.
The thing about Preston, is that they're a midtable Championship club. They don't have the crowds or sugar daddy to be a regular top 6 club, so realistically what can he achieve? They're a bit like Millwall, a good season will see them flirting with the playoffs, a bad season will see them flirting with the bottom 3, but generally they finish midtable
We will hopefully see a new generation of managers coming through in the likes of Lowe and Jackson that will eventually lead to the end of the likes of Bruce being appointed purely on name recognition.