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  • edited December 2024
    MarcusH26 said:
    Never understand why managers get sacked after games they shouldn’t win. I don’t get why sack their manager after losing to Leeds but not after drawing at home to Cardiff and then losing to 10 men. 

    Their issue is that John Walters came in as a football director, sacked a manager who was doing okay in a short time and then changed it up as he thought an inexperienced manager was a good idea. I’m surprised he’s not been sacked but he is a legend in that part of the world. 


    Seen a lot of Stoke fans online lay the blame firmly at Walters door despite being a club legend it sounds like he's made a lot of mistakes as Sporting Director including the Pelach appointment. 
    I wonder if he'll recommend Roy Keane for the job :)
  • Also Holden was on their local radio saying he’d manage them for free to keep them up hahah big pay off from Saudi for being a poor assistant manager. Seen both Appleton and Jones at 16/1. Would be hilarious if Appleton got the job but I think they’ll get robins. 
    Thought Robins said he doesn't want another job till at least the end of the season.
  • I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.

    I found this interesting to read and even with the amazing Midas touch of the Coates family, Stoke have been on the slide.

    This is part of the article from 2/8/24

    "It's bet365 effectively acting like the bank of mum and dad and acknowledging that the money that was owed by the football club, which at one stage was over a quarter of a billion pounds, is never going to be repaid and they are just doing some tidying up," football finance expert Kieran Maguire told BBC Radio Stoke.

    "Stoke tended to break even when they were in the Premier League but in the last few years, they've been losing £500,000, £600,000 a week and those costs have effectively been absorbed by the Coates family."

    Football really isn't an exact science as demonstrated by Stoke City with good owners like the Coates and the not so merry go-round at CAFC. 

  • Will any team risk going for Russell Martin? His one style football would be an incredible risk mid season, but you can see a misguided owner somewhere going for him.
  • Lydd just sacked Nicky Southall after a whole 4 games in charge and 39 days.  4 defeats out of 4 was enough to convince them he wasn’t the right man 😄😄😄
  • Will any team risk going for Russell Martin? His one style football would be an incredible risk mid season, but you can see a misguided owner somewhere going for him.
    Strikes me as a very Norwich appointment. No idea if their current manager has his job at risk. 
  • I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.
    Mid table is generous, that’s lower mid table! Agreed, league 1 isn’t far away
    I think their points weren't far off mid-table on the earlier finishes, either way, a club on a downwards trajectory.
  • I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.

    I found this interesting to read and even with the amazing Midas touch of the Coates family, Stoke have been on the slide.

    This is part of the article from 2/8/24

    "It's bet365 effectively acting like the bank of mum and dad and acknowledging that the money that was owed by the football club, which at one stage was over a quarter of a billion pounds, is never going to be repaid and they are just doing some tidying up," football finance expert Kieran Maguire told BBC Radio Stoke.

    "Stoke tended to break even when they were in the Premier League but in the last few years, they've been losing £500,000, £600,000 a week and those costs have effectively been absorbed by the Coates family."

    Football really isn't an exact science as demonstrated by Stoke City with good owners like the Coates and the not so merry go-round at CAFC. 

    That, is an absolutely hideous amount of money to be losing each week. 

    If they get relegated they could be in some serious trouble. 
  • edited December 2024
    I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.

    I found this interesting to read and even with the amazing Midas touch of the Coates family, Stoke have been on the slide.

    This is part of the article from 2/8/24

    "It's bet365 effectively acting like the bank of mum and dad and acknowledging that the money that was owed by the football club, which at one stage was over a quarter of a billion pounds, is never going to be repaid and they are just doing some tidying up," football finance expert Kieran Maguire told BBC Radio Stoke.

    "Stoke tended to break even when they were in the Premier League but in the last few years, they've been losing £500,000, £600,000 a week and those costs have effectively been absorbed by the Coates family."

    Football really isn't an exact science as demonstrated by Stoke City with good owners like the Coates and the not so merry go-round at CAFC. 

    That, is an absolutely hideous amount of money to be losing each week. 

    If they get relegated they could be in some serious trouble. 

    After seeing your stats on this being Stoke's 7th season in the Championship after being relegated and off of 10 straight years in the Premier I'm shocked to see how much they are allegedly losing as I thought the big earners are normally moved on when dropping out of the elite Premier, especially if you don't get back in one season.
    Paying off Lambert, Rowett, Jones, O'Neill, Neil, Schumacher and Pelach are all out goings.


  • I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.

    I found this interesting to read and even with the amazing Midas touch of the Coates family, Stoke have been on the slide.

    This is part of the article from 2/8/24

    "It's bet365 effectively acting like the bank of mum and dad and acknowledging that the money that was owed by the football club, which at one stage was over a quarter of a billion pounds, is never going to be repaid and they are just doing some tidying up," football finance expert Kieran Maguire told BBC Radio Stoke.

    "Stoke tended to break even when they were in the Premier League but in the last few years, they've been losing £500,000, £600,000 a week and those costs have effectively been absorbed by the Coates family."

    Football really isn't an exact science as demonstrated by Stoke City with good owners like the Coates and the not so merry go-round at CAFC. 

    That, is an absolutely hideous amount of money to be losing each week. 

    If they get relegated they could be in some serious trouble. 
    They're absolutely fine, they're debt free and own their stadium and training ground. The only way they'd be in trouble is if the Coates family decide they've had enough, but given they're lifelong Stoke fans as well as a huge employer in the Stoke area i don't see them walking away anytime soon.

    I don't think they will go down but relegation might even be a good thing for them, as they could exploit the stupid EFL loophole and throw money at transfers like Birmingham have done and come back up with a stronger team.
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  • Millwall Football Club is delighted to announce the arrival of Alex Neil as The Lions’ new Head Coach.

    The 43-year-old joins the club on a long-term contract alongside Martin Canning, who arrives as Assistant Head Coach.

    https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2024/december/30/millwall-confirm-alex-neil-as-new-head-coach/

  • Think that's a very good appointment unfortunately.
  • Think that's a very good appointment unfortunately.
    I wouldn't say it's a very good appointment, but it's a sensible "more of the same" appointment. 
  • How is he only 43. Thought he'd be in his 50s by now
  • Wayne Rooneys Plymouth are no longer Wayne’s Rooneys Plymouth. 
  • Am surprised he lasted so long. Wonder if Ryan Lowe or Steven Schumacher will be welcomed back?
  • Brownie12 said:
    Wayne Rooneys Plymouth are no longer Wayne’s Rooneys Plymouth. 
    I wonder who once Wayne Rooney's Plymouth will appoint to replace Wayne Rooney
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  • Where next for Wayne ? Is there a call for Henry VIII lookie likeys ?
    Our Henry was a Greenwich lad of course, so maybe Rodney's next job will be in that borough 😯...

    ...entertaining the tourists at the Naval College 
  • I want a bit more poetry and alliteration in his next appointment. Something like Wayne Rooney’s Wicklow Rovers.
  • Lock up your...hmm. Plymouth's Wayne Rooney is on the loose! 
  • Dagenham & Redbridge sacked their manager Ben Strevens a couple of days ago. Might be more Rooney's level as a manager.
  • Where next for Wayne ? Is there a call for Henry VIII lookie likeys ?
    He is surely a busted flush as a manager now. No real record of success anywhere
  • I wouldn’t be surprised if he turned to punditry. He did okay at the Euros if I remember correctly
  • Plymouth Argyle can confirm that the club and Head Coach Wayne Rooney have mutually agreed to part ways with immediate effect.

    Departing the club with Rooney will be Assistant Head Coach Mike Phelan and first team coach Simon Ireland.

    First team coach Kevin Nancekivell and Club Captain Joe Edwards will lead the team for our Sky Bet Championship match against Bristol City on New Year’s Day. Daryl Flahavan will continue as Goalkeeping coach.

    https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/argyle-and-rooney-mutually-part-ways

  • Off_it said:
    I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.

    I found this interesting to read and even with the amazing Midas touch of the Coates family, Stoke have been on the slide.

    This is part of the article from 2/8/24

    "It's bet365 effectively acting like the bank of mum and dad and acknowledging that the money that was owed by the football club, which at one stage was over a quarter of a billion pounds, is never going to be repaid and they are just doing some tidying up," football finance expert Kieran Maguire told BBC Radio Stoke.

    "Stoke tended to break even when they were in the Premier League but in the last few years, they've been losing £500,000, £600,000 a week and those costs have effectively been absorbed by the Coates family."

    Football really isn't an exact science as demonstrated by Stoke City with good owners like the Coates and the not so merry go-round at CAFC. 

    That, is an absolutely hideous amount of money to be losing each week. 

    If they get relegated they could be in some serious trouble. 

    After seeing your stats on this being Stoke's 7th season in the Championship after being relegated and off of 10 straight years in the Premier I'm shocked to see how much they are allegedly losing as I thought the big earners are normally moved on when dropping out of the elite Premier, especially if you don't get back in one season.
    Paying off Lambert, Rowett, Jones, O'Neill, Neil, Schumacher and Pelach are all out goings.


    Not forgetting that Munro bloke theyve managed to shift off the payroll. 
    I understand that was an HR issue.
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