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Managerial sackings, comings and goings

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  • edited December 28
    MarcusH26 said:
    Never understand why managers get sacked after games they shouldn’t win. I don’t get why sack their manager after losing to Leeds but not after drawing at home to Cardiff and then losing to 10 men. 

    Their issue is that John Walters came in as a football director, sacked a manager who was doing okay in a short time and then changed it up as he thought an inexperienced manager was a good idea. I’m surprised he’s not been sacked but he is a legend in that part of the world. 


    Seen a lot of Stoke fans online lay the blame firmly at Walters door despite being a club legend it sounds like he's made a lot of mistakes as Sporting Director including the Pelach appointment. 
    I wonder if he'll recommend Roy Keane for the job :)
  • Also Holden was on their local radio saying he’d manage them for free to keep them up hahah big pay off from Saudi for being a poor assistant manager. Seen both Appleton and Jones at 16/1. Would be hilarious if Appleton got the job but I think they’ll get robins. 
    Thought Robins said he doesn't want another job till at least the end of the season.
  • I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.

    I found this interesting to read and even with the amazing Midas touch of the Coates family, Stoke have been on the slide.

    This is part of the article from 2/8/24

    "It's bet365 effectively acting like the bank of mum and dad and acknowledging that the money that was owed by the football club, which at one stage was over a quarter of a billion pounds, is never going to be repaid and they are just doing some tidying up," football finance expert Kieran Maguire told BBC Radio Stoke.

    "Stoke tended to break even when they were in the Premier League but in the last few years, they've been losing £500,000, £600,000 a week and those costs have effectively been absorbed by the Coates family."

    Football really isn't an exact science as demonstrated by Stoke City with good owners like the Coates and the not so merry go-round at CAFC. 

  • Will any team risk going for Russell Martin? His one style football would be an incredible risk mid season, but you can see a misguided owner somewhere going for him.
  • Lydd just sacked Nicky Southall after a whole 4 games in charge and 39 days.  4 defeats out of 4 was enough to convince them he wasn’t the right man 😄😄😄
  • Will any team risk going for Russell Martin? His one style football would be an incredible risk mid season, but you can see a misguided owner somewhere going for him.
    Strikes me as a very Norwich appointment. No idea if their current manager has his job at risk. 
  • I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.
    Mid table is generous, that’s lower mid table! Agreed, league 1 isn’t far away
    I think their points weren't far off mid-table on the earlier finishes, either way, a club on a downwards trajectory.
  • I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.

    I found this interesting to read and even with the amazing Midas touch of the Coates family, Stoke have been on the slide.

    This is part of the article from 2/8/24

    "It's bet365 effectively acting like the bank of mum and dad and acknowledging that the money that was owed by the football club, which at one stage was over a quarter of a billion pounds, is never going to be repaid and they are just doing some tidying up," football finance expert Kieran Maguire told BBC Radio Stoke.

    "Stoke tended to break even when they were in the Premier League but in the last few years, they've been losing £500,000, £600,000 a week and those costs have effectively been absorbed by the Coates family."

    Football really isn't an exact science as demonstrated by Stoke City with good owners like the Coates and the not so merry go-round at CAFC. 

    That, is an absolutely hideous amount of money to be losing each week. 

    If they get relegated they could be in some serious trouble. 
  • edited December 28
    I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.

    I found this interesting to read and even with the amazing Midas touch of the Coates family, Stoke have been on the slide.

    This is part of the article from 2/8/24

    "It's bet365 effectively acting like the bank of mum and dad and acknowledging that the money that was owed by the football club, which at one stage was over a quarter of a billion pounds, is never going to be repaid and they are just doing some tidying up," football finance expert Kieran Maguire told BBC Radio Stoke.

    "Stoke tended to break even when they were in the Premier League but in the last few years, they've been losing £500,000, £600,000 a week and those costs have effectively been absorbed by the Coates family."

    Football really isn't an exact science as demonstrated by Stoke City with good owners like the Coates and the not so merry go-round at CAFC. 

    That, is an absolutely hideous amount of money to be losing each week. 

    If they get relegated they could be in some serious trouble. 

    After seeing your stats on this being Stoke's 7th season in the Championship after being relegated and off of 10 straight years in the Premier I'm shocked to see how much they are allegedly losing as I thought the big earners are normally moved on when dropping out of the elite Premier, especially if you don't get back in one season.
    Paying off Lambert, Rowett, Jones, O'Neill, Neil, Schumacher and Pelach are all out goings.


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