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Managerial sackings, comings and goings

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  • clive said:

    Plymouth Argyle can confirm that the club and Head Coach Wayne Rooney have mutually agreed to part ways with immediate effect.

    Departing the club with Rooney will be Assistant Head Coach Mike Phelan and first team coach Simon Ireland.

    First team coach Kevin Nancekivell and Club Captain Joe Edwards will lead the team for our Sky Bet Championship match against Bristol City on New Year’s Day. Daryl Flahavan will continue as Goalkeeping coach.

    https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/argyle-and-rooney-mutually-part-ways

    The 5th time he's been in some sort of caretaker manager role there!
  • edited December 2024
    Wayne Rooney was blessed with footballing talent but yet again in England at least, the Midas touch doesn't always carry on when they are a manager.

    Jackie Charlton, a Giraffe type CB was the only member of the '66' winners to have some success in management.
    Alf Ramsey is the obvious exception but apparently he was a slow right back in the days when RB didn't cross the half way line ! 33 caps, so not too shabby.

    Bobby Robson was a goal scoring Midfielder who scored 1 in 4  in club football and had 20 caps. Excellent club manager and hit and miss with England. Losses to ROI, Holland and Russia in Euro 88 yet kept his job to reach the semi final in 90.

    Glenn Hoddle was a gifted footballer and if he could've kept quiet about how Karma catches up with you, would in my opinion been a top international manager for a decade or so.
    My only criticism of Hoddle was he thought penalty shoot outs were a lottery; only if you let David Batty take one !

    Gareth Southgate was an International but same as Ramsey, solid rather than great. Two finals in Euro's and semi final in WC and gets a knighthood for coming 2nd. A strong record TBF.

    Great players now are so rich, even just decent Premier players are that will they have the motivation to do the hard yards in being a Manager or head coach. Easier money just being a pundit than taking abuse and working 12 hour days.
  • Off_it said:
    I feel like it's inevitable that Stoke will drop down to league1 soon. Since they've been relegated from the prem. 

    2018/19: 16th, 55pts
    2019/20: 15th, 56pts
    2020/21: 14th, 60pts
    2021/22: 14th, 62pts
    2022/23: 16th, 53pts
    2023/24: 17th, 56pts
    2024/25: 19th, 22pts, so far.

    Complete mid-table mediocrity with a steady decline recently. I think they'll only keep doing it for so long, especially with how often they chop and change.

    I found this interesting to read and even with the amazing Midas touch of the Coates family, Stoke have been on the slide.

    This is part of the article from 2/8/24

    "It's bet365 effectively acting like the bank of mum and dad and acknowledging that the money that was owed by the football club, which at one stage was over a quarter of a billion pounds, is never going to be repaid and they are just doing some tidying up," football finance expert Kieran Maguire told BBC Radio Stoke.

    "Stoke tended to break even when they were in the Premier League but in the last few years, they've been losing £500,000, £600,000 a week and those costs have effectively been absorbed by the Coates family."

    Football really isn't an exact science as demonstrated by Stoke City with good owners like the Coates and the not so merry go-round at CAFC. 

    That, is an absolutely hideous amount of money to be losing each week. 

    If they get relegated they could be in some serious trouble. 

    After seeing your stats on this being Stoke's 7th season in the Championship after being relegated and off of 10 straight years in the Premier I'm shocked to see how much they are allegedly losing as I thought the big earners are normally moved on when dropping out of the elite Premier, especially if you don't get back in one season.
    Paying off Lambert, Rowett, Jones, O'Neill, Neil, Schumacher and Pelach are all out goings.


    Not forgetting that Munro bloke theyve managed to shift off the payroll. 
    I understand that was an HR issue.
    The books show last seasons losses were down to Whiskey and Watches 😀
  • https://x.com/_pauljoyce/status/1874138967370850506

    Mark Robins set to be named Stoke manager 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    https://x.com/_pauljoyce/status/1874138967370850506

    Mark Robins set to be named Stoke manager 
    Stoke are lucky that such a good Championship manager is available
  • Wayne Rooney was blessed with footballing talent but yet again in England at least, the Midas touch doesn't always carry on when they are a manager.

    Jackie Charlton, a Giraffe type CB was the only member of the '66' winners to have some success in management.
    Alf Ramsey is the obvious exception but apparently he was a slow right back in the days when RB didn't cross the half way line ! 33 caps, so not too shabby.

    Bobby Robson was a goal scoring Midfielder who scored 1 in 4  in club football and had 20 caps. Excellent club manager and hit and miss with England. Losses to ROI, Holland and Russia in Euro 88 yet kept his job to reach the semi final in 90.

    Glenn Hoddle was a gifted footballer and if he could've kept quiet about how Karma catches up with you, would in my opinion been a top international manager for a decade or so.
    My only criticism of Hoddle was he thought penalty shoot outs were a lottery; only if you let David Batty take one !

    Gareth Southgate was an International but same as Ramsey, solid rather than great. Two finals in Euro's and semi final in WC and gets a knighthood for coming 2nd. A strong record TBF.

    Great players now are so rich, even just decent Premier players are that will they have the motivation to do the hard yards in being a Manager or head coach. Easier money just being a pundit than taking abuse and working 12 hour days.
    SIR Gareth IF you please  o:)
  • Wayne Rooney was blessed with footballing talent but yet again in England at least, the Midas touch doesn't always carry on when they are a manager.

    Jackie Charlton, a Giraffe type CB was the only member of the '66' winners to have some success in management.
    Alf Ramsey is the obvious exception but apparently he was a slow right back in the days when RB didn't cross the half way line ! 33 caps, so not too shabby.

    Bobby Robson was a goal scoring Midfielder who scored 1 in 4  in club football and had 20 caps. Excellent club manager and hit and miss with England. Losses to ROI, Holland and Russia in Euro 88 yet kept his job to reach the semi final in 90.

    Glenn Hoddle was a gifted footballer and if he could've kept quiet about how Karma catches up with you, would in my opinion been a top international manager for a decade or so.
    My only criticism of Hoddle was he thought penalty shoot outs were a lottery; only if you let David Batty take one !

    Gareth Southgate was an International but same as Ramsey, solid rather than great. Two finals in Euro's and semi final in WC and gets a knighthood for coming 2nd. A strong record TBF.

    Great players now are so rich, even just decent Premier players are that will they have the motivation to do the hard yards in being a Manager or head coach. Easier money just being a pundit than taking abuse and working 12 hour days.
    SIR Gareth IF you please  o:)
    F*** him.
  • MarcusH26 said:
    https://x.com/_pauljoyce/status/1874138967370850506

    Mark Robins set to be named Stoke manager 
    Stoke are lucky that such a good Championship manager is available
    They have their pick now Rooney's free.
  • Mark Robins has been appointed Manager of Stoke City on a three-and-a-half-year contract.
    Paul Nevin and James Rowberry, currently England Under 20s and Wales senior team’s Assistant Coach respectively, have joined as Assistant Managers.
    https://www.stokecityfc.com/news/2025/january/01/robins-appointed-Manager-of-the-Potters/
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