The same thought struck me today. It's mystifying how anyone can still support the regime. The lowest league position for generations, two-thirds of the ground empty, lifelong supporters alienated and angry, the club a national laughing stock and still some people think that we need to stick with the status quo when there is absolutely no sign of an improvement on any of those fronts.
Somebody on another forum said 'Be careful what you wish for'. I wish for change but how on earth could any change be worse than the current fiasco?
I have to admit that the summer break and relegation had sapped most of my fight but KM has managed to rekindle it, so I should thank her for that at least.
It's wonderful isn't it! We can always rely on the SMT to put their foot in it at the right time and give us the impetus we need
CARD just being pigheaded not accepting the invitation. Club clearly trying to create a dialogue and with the appointment of an English manager and his choice of players, to tread a new path. A very disappointing response and a lost opportunity. CARD have ceded the moral high ground with this response and come across as petty, vindictive and self obsessed.
Are you a fan of the Belgians?
I'm just a disillusioned supporter like yourself - very distressed by the whole situation who believes that the disengagement between the owners and the more radical elements in the fanbase is driving away a whole section of the support. I who would much prefer dialogue to conflict and for all sides to pull together with a common aim of turning this situation around.
I think the shit football is more likely to be driving away supporters, and for that we have Roland and Katrien to thanks. Oh, and Laptop Boy....
Last year often the protests were both more entertaining than the football but also seemed to spur on the football.
Last year I had season tickets in lower west much closer to the Jimmy seed than the covered end. Never going to make that mistake again.
You're grounds too big for you and this is an wedding library and give us a song ring loud now but at least league 1 away support looks a bit less than championship.
It's not good though. A rocking Valley with >15k home support is an impossibility under Katrien.
Admirably eloquent response from CARD as the SMT continue to embarrass themselves with yet another clumsy attempt to score a point. Arrogant, pathetic individuals drowning in their own incompetence as they continue to destroy our club.
Last year often the protests were both more entertaining than the football but also seemed to spur on the football.
Last year I had season tickets in lower west much closer to the Jimmy seed than the covered end. Never going to make that mistake again.
You're grounds too big for you and this is an wedding library and give us a song ring loud now but at least league 1 away support looks a bit less than championship.
It's not good though. A rocking Valley with >15k home support is an impossibility under Katrien.
That's what we all want though?
Katrien's more ambitious than that. She wants 20k+ and has already set up a group to help achieve it.
Any day now we're going to see their plans come to fruition
Great passionate statement for all fans to get behind. The point of no return has been reached Long ago. Roland out. Regime out. No retreat. No surrender.
I second another posters thoughts, we should have the meeting subject to us filming it and posting it online for everybody to see her ongoing bullshit.
Perhaps CARD should invite the PR Agency to a meeting on their own so that they can be provided with some background on their client?
Any PR agency worth their salt will know all about their client's past. I'd expect them to have spent time with the SMT to get their take on things. And expect them to have read, marked and inwardly digested posts on this August forum.
I would be surprised if they left themselves unaware of the opinions of their client's nemeses.
I expect the PR Agency has made the same mistake that most people do when they attempt to 'take on' football fans. They think we are all a bunch a drunken, racist knuckle draggers. They then seemed shocked that we out PR their PR.
Paul Walsh had a right go at Duchatelet on Soccer Saturday early.
Talking about foreign managers in lowers leagues he said they gone thru about 10 and added, prompted by David Prutton, that Charlton only had an English manager now due to fan pressure.
It's the same tactics they always use when the natives get restless
Sack Peeters, appoint Luzon, Trust organise meeting - they respond by quickly arranging VIP q&a, stuff it full of other people and get KM to be interviewed by a 15 year old
Protest in car park before S Wed after Carol appointed - they respond by organising another q&a. This time they promise a strategic committee will be set up, never occurred
Protests before Brighton - they respond by wanting to talk to the Trust, an organisation they had ignored for 2 years
It's all just a game to them, problem is their not very good at it
Don't forget the strategically, yet random timed contract extensions for Johnnie Jackson. 3 days after Powell's sacking and then a few days after shipping out Tony Watt. No coincidence
All the SMT care about is positive PR and a clean CV ...they know their days are numbered. The club itself, and fans, are way down in their list of priorities as events of the last two years have proved.
So, we continue to counter the PR, and keep posting the truth about each individual online.
If they are not careful we will not only make the club unmanageable, but also make the individuals unemployable.
Get out of our club and salvage what you can, while you can.
Purchased ticket for Coventry. On my own as wife won't let my son come along as she's worried - maybe shows how outsiders are viewing matters? CARD have said they are too busy to meet me, understand but disappointed. If any of you do fancy a beer let me know which pub to go to - expecting Timbuktu top of the list so at least be original if not funny.
Purchased ticket for Coventry. On my own as wife won't let my son come along as she's worried - maybe shows how outsiders are viewing matters? CARD have said they are too busy to meet me, understand but disappointed. If any of you do fancy a beer let me know which pub to go to - expecting Timbuktu top of the list so at least be original if not funny.
@Cambridge You haven't responded to the post I made above.
I asked if you had seen the comment from the CARD statement that said;
"We stand ready to assist any incoming regime in any way we can" as you had said that the rejection of the PR stunt would deter a potential buyer that you had spoken to.
I also suggested that you point this to the potential buyer you mentioned and that you ask the potential buyer to contact CARD direct.
Ball is in your court. You said you were talking to someone able to afford to buy the club so you could take real action that could end all the protests.
Sorry that your son isn't attending but as you know your wife's fears are completely unfounded. I doubt very much that that is how many outsiders are view matters. I think most see the decline of the club being due to the mis-management by the SMT and owner and the protests as peaceful, fun, well run and very intelligent and effective in raising awareness. That is why the regime are so desperate to undermine them and prevent them.
Purchased ticket for Coventry. On my own as wife won't let my son come along as she's worried - maybe shows how outsiders are viewing matters? CARD have said they are too busy to meet me, understand but disappointed. If any of you do fancy a beer let me know which pub to go to - expecting Timbuktu top of the list so at least be original if not funny.
It's the SMT that want people to be worried so that they can use it in their PR campaign.
Unfortunately for them, as @Henry Irving has pointed out, CARD have ensured that, in every protest, there has been nothing to worry about. If there had been, it would have hit the national media, whereas all we are getting from the media, in the main, is support.
It is true though that people are not coming in part because of the protests.
Not every dad wants to take his 6 year old to a match where the main chant is Hey Roland, even in the family end.
I spoke to three parents today at Roo's 7 year old south Kent league game all of whom have been to the valley before and enjoyed it but who won't go if they know it's a protest day.
I think the protests are worth it. They agreed. It didn't want to run the risk of being involved if it all went a bit wrong.
It is true though that people are not coming in part because of the protests.
Not every dad wants to take his 6 year old to a match where the main chant is Hey Roland, even in the family end.
I spoke to three parents today at Roo's 7 year old south Kent league game all of whom have been to the valley before and enjoyed it but who won't go if they know it's a protest day.
I think the protests are worth it. They agreed. It didn't want to run the risk of being involved if it all went a bit wrong.
I don't agree with the swearing but it is not reserved for protest games or protest songs.
Are these three parents Charlton fans? How many games have they been to this season?
In any case there is one very easy way for Katrien and Roland to stop the protests. Sell the club.
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CAS Trust are trying to find out if there is anyone still alive who saw Charlton in a lower league position
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The same thought struck me today. It's mystifying how anyone can still support the regime. The lowest league position for generations, two-thirds of the ground empty, lifelong supporters alienated and angry, the club a national laughing stock and still some people think that we need to stick with the status quo when there is absolutely no sign of an improvement on any of those fronts.
Somebody on another forum said 'Be careful what you wish for'. I wish for change but how on earth could any change be worse than the current fiasco?
Due to their arrogance they will never learn.
We are one day closer to getting rid of them.
Last year often the protests were both more entertaining than the football but also seemed to spur on the football.
Last year I had season tickets in lower west much closer to the Jimmy seed than the covered end. Never going to make that mistake again.
You're grounds too big for you and this is an wedding library and give us a song ring loud now but at least league 1 away support looks a bit less than championship.
It's not good though. A rocking Valley with >15k home support is an impossibility under Katrien.
That's what we all want though?
Any day now we're going to see their plans come to fruition
Long ago. Roland out. Regime out. No retreat. No surrender.
I would be surprised if they left themselves unaware of the opinions of their client's nemeses.
Talking about foreign managers in lowers leagues he said they gone thru about 10 and added, prompted by David Prutton, that Charlton only had an English manager now due to fan pressure.
Iain Dowie, also on the panel didn't comment.
PR not working.
CARD 1 - CAFC 0 (First leg)
Second leg to be played out on October 15th.
So, we continue to counter the PR, and keep posting the truth about each individual online.
If they are not careful we will not only make the club unmanageable, but also make the individuals unemployable.
Get out of our club and salvage what you can, while you can.
I asked if you had seen the comment from the CARD statement that said;
"We stand ready to assist any incoming regime in any way we can" as you had said that the rejection of the PR stunt would deter a potential buyer that you had spoken to.
I also suggested that you point this to the potential buyer you mentioned and that you ask the potential buyer to contact CARD direct.
Ball is in your court. You said you were talking to someone able to afford to buy the club so you could take real action that could end all the protests.
Sorry that your son isn't attending but as you know your wife's fears are completely unfounded. I doubt very much that that is how many outsiders are view matters. I think most see the decline of the club being due to the mis-management by the SMT and owner and the protests as peaceful, fun, well run and very intelligent and effective in raising awareness. That is why the regime are so desperate to undermine them and prevent them.
Unfortunately for them, as @Henry Irving has pointed out, CARD have ensured that, in every protest, there has been nothing to worry about. If there had been, it would have hit the national media, whereas all we are getting from the media, in the main, is support.
Not every dad wants to take his 6 year old to a match where the main chant is Hey Roland, even in the family end.
I spoke to three parents today at Roo's 7 year old south Kent league game all of whom have been to the valley before and enjoyed it but who won't go if they know it's a protest day.
I think the protests are worth it. They agreed. It didn't want to run the risk of being involved if it all went a bit wrong.
Are these three parents Charlton fans? How many games have they been to this season?
In any case there is one very easy way for Katrien and Roland to stop the protests. Sell the club.