"But both England and Scotland players wore armbands featuring the poppy symbol during England's 3-0 win.
There was also a display of poppies on big screens, a minute's silence, playing of the Last Post and poppy T-shirts handed to the crowd"
It does sound a bit much, next year a hologram of Winston Churchill will be beamed onto the pitch and the players will wear kits constructed solely of poppies picked from Flanders fields.
We're in danger of drowning the actual meaning of Remembrance Day.
In future why not just have a wreath ceremony before the game and donate the fine money to a worthy cause.
Considering 'poppy shirts' are a very recent phenomenon, this could all have been easily avoided. The real victims are the RBL who once again find the poppy's image being dragged through the mud.
In future why not just have a wreath ceremony before the game and donate the fine money to a worthy cause.
Considering 'poppy shirts' are a very recent phenomenon, this could all have been easily avoided. The real victims are the RBL who once again find the poppy's image being dragged through the mud.
In future why not just have a wreath ceremony before the game and donate the fine money to a worthy cause.
Considering 'poppy shirts' are a very recent phenomenon, this could all have been easily avoided. The real victims are the RBL who once again find the poppy's image being dragged through the mud.
You been listening to Danny Mills?
I made more or less the same comment a few pages ago.
Doesn't a cross on a nations flag represent Christianity and the crescent moon and star Islam? Shouldnt FIFA now be looking into all nations kits and badges that depict these signs that clearly have religious background.
Doesn't a cross on a nations flag represent Christianity and the crescent moon and star Islam? Shouldnt FIFA now be looking into all nations kits and badges that depict these signs that clearly have religious background.
Do you think the organisation that awarded Qatar the World Cup because they are appearently the best nation to host it are really going to tell all the relevant states to remove Islamic iconography from their kits?
Genuinely - can somebody explain to me why it is more of a crime to wear a poppy at home than away? Just want to get inside FIFA's heads/reasoning! I'm sure I have missed something.
Genuinely - can somebody explain to me why it is more of a crime to wear a poppy at home than away? Just want to get inside FIFA's heads/reasoning! I'm sure I have missed something.
Because of this: "There was also a display of poppies on big screens, a minute's silence, playing of the Last Post and poppy T-shirts handed to the crowd"
This is purely down to the FA and had nothing to do with the SFA. Ergo the wankers in Switzerland lay more blame at the hands of the FA.
FIFA could have resolved it in a number of ways, but chose robotic authoritarianism. The FA and SFA could also have done things better - this really isn't a necessary battle ground. As a future precedent, the FA could pay the RBL some money of a possible fine and just play a match. The end reult seems to be a whole bunch of loud mouths yelling about how they are better rememberers than others, and the headquarters of a laughable football organisation in Switzerland trying to pretend to be honest and fair. Not really what the rememberance sunday is all about.
FIFA could sort this out very easily by allowing this - after application- in future if the FAs of both competing countries agree!
The issue with this is that if an opposing FA refuses to allow us to wear the poppy it could have huge diplomatic implications.
Exactly the sort of thing FIFA is trying to avoid, which is why they put this rule in place.
Well you have to respect that though. The world is complicated. But Scotland and England both wanted to wear them and the fans of both countries were on the same side on that. Common sense! FIFA only does corruption though - not common sense!
FIFA could sort this out very easily by allowing this - after application- in future if the FAs of both competing countries agree!
The issue with this is that if an opposing FA refuses to allow us to wear the poppy it could have huge diplomatic implications.
Exactly the sort of thing FIFA is trying to avoid, which is why they put this rule in place.
Well you have to respect that though. The world is complicated. But Scotland and England both wanted to wear them and the fans of both countries were on the same side on that. Common sense! FIFA only does corruption though - not common sense!
You would hope that people would be able to respect that, you would hope that visiting FAs would respect our wishes to wear the poppy.
However people are petty and either way there will be a vocal contingent who will be outraged by the decision to allow England to wear the poppy, or a vocal contingent who will be outraged by a foreign FA vetoing England wearing the poppy.
As soon as you allow a situation like that you politicise it, which is exactly what we're all trying to avoid.
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We should just leave it....
http://www.newstalk.com/BREAKING:-FIFA-fine-Ireland-for-wearing-1916-commemorative-jerseys-
This is the non-colonial equivalent of the poppy.
Hopefully it adds some balance to the discussion.
beautyprecedent is bornThere was also a display of poppies on big screens, a minute's silence, playing of the Last Post and poppy T-shirts handed to the crowd"
It does sound a bit much, next year a hologram of Winston Churchill will be beamed onto the pitch and the players will wear kits constructed solely of poppies picked from Flanders fields.
We're in danger of drowning the actual meaning of Remembrance Day.
Considering 'poppy shirts' are a very recent phenomenon, this could all have been easily avoided. The real victims are the RBL who once again find the poppy's image being dragged through the mud.
And no.
Shouldnt FIFA now be looking into all nations kits and badges that depict these signs that clearly have religious background.
This is purely down to the FA and had nothing to do with the SFA. Ergo the wankers in Switzerland lay more blame at the hands of the FA.
Exactly the sort of thing FIFA is trying to avoid, which is why they put this rule in place.
The end reult seems to be a whole bunch of loud mouths yelling about how they are better rememberers than others, and the headquarters of a laughable football organisation in Switzerland trying to pretend to be honest and fair. Not really what the rememberance sunday is all about.
However people are petty and either way there will be a vocal contingent who will be outraged by the decision to allow England to wear the poppy, or a vocal contingent who will be outraged by a foreign FA vetoing England wearing the poppy.
As soon as you allow a situation like that you politicise it, which is exactly what we're all trying to avoid.
An appeal is exactly what FIFA will want as they'll again get to rub English noses in it by upholding the fine