Getting To Know The Network (4 Part Radio Documentary) (31/1 Part 3, pg. 17)
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I mean it's not as if this joke of a footballing experiment hasn't been a complete waste of his money which has led to us sitting 11th in League One 27 games in to the season, with a squad that once again will need overhauling at the end of the season .Major said:
Oh right - The owner with the 'egg shell filled with manure' is a multi millionaire pumping a ton of money into CAFC. What do you offer? Smart arsed comments. What does that make you?Dave2l said:Just listened.
What is clearer by the minute is that Roland Duchatelets brain is like an egg shell filled with manure.
So because Roland has made money , outside of football , it doesn't make what he has been doing at Charlton , burning money on plenty of shit players and employing inexperienced people in important positions a completely ridiculous way to run a club .
I think you'll find where Roland is concerned football wise he is dumb as fuck .
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We know Roland ideas now - do enough to stay in the division and be a player farm. Nothing has changed. He obviously didnt plan to be relegated, but it just means he adjusts his spreadsheet with the same exact idea!
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If it wasn't for Roland's money, you wouldn't even have a chance to be bitching and whining at every opportunity because there would likely not even be a club thanks to the Spiv front men for Kevin Cash. You name me one club that has not burned money on shit players. How about listing the useless players (and managers) that Richard Murray blew millions on.
Suck it up buttercup, like it or lump it, we now have a better manager, a better squad and more and more supporters that recognize the efforts and are more interested in the success of the team than jaded agendas from a time when new owner got it completely wrong. What is actually 'dumb as fuck' is willful ignorance.30 -
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Thanks Katrien! your little pep talk is inspiring!Major said:If it wasn't for Roland's money, you wouldn't even have a chance to be bitching and whining at every opportunity because there would likely not even be a club thanks to the Spiv front men for Kevin Cash. You name me one club that has not burned money on shit players. How about listing the useless players (and managers) that Richard Murray blew millions on.
Suck it up buttercup, like it or lump it, we now have a better manager, a better squad and more and more supporters that recognize the efforts and are more interested in the success of the team than jaded agendas from a time when new owner got it completely wrong. What is actually 'dumb as fuck' is willful ignorance.
Now take the rest of the day off you are working too hard.3 -
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Losing 4000 season ticket holders in the summer and drastically reduced attendances will suggest many people will not agree with you.Major said:If it wasn't for Roland's money, you wouldn't even have a chance to be bitching and whining at every opportunity because there would likely not even be a club thanks to the Spiv front men for Kevin Cash. You name me one club that has not burned money on shit players. How about listing the useless players (and managers) that Richard Murray blew millions on.
Suck it up buttercup, like it or lump it, we now have a better manager, a better squad and more and more supporters that recognize the efforts and are more interested in the success of the team than jaded agendas from a time when new owner got it completely wrong. What is actually 'dumb as fuck' is willful ignorance.22 -
Hoist by your own petardMajor said:. What is actually 'dumb as fuck' is willful ignorance.
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Yes because our current owners havent had the difficult job of finding someone to replace one of the greatest Managers in our history, that was one of the biggest issues we had that summer because no one wanted to be the man to replace Curbs but as you insist:Major said:How about listing the useless players (and managers) that Richard Murray blew millions on.
The useless Players and Managers in my opinion were
Murray Managers: Dowie | Reed
Duchatalet Managers: Peeters | Luzon | Fraeye | Riga (2nd time) | Slade
Then you've got the rubbish players we signed
Under Murray: Karim Bagheri | Jesper Blomqvist | Robbie Mustoe | Yassin Moutaouakil | Izale McLeod
Stephen Hughes | Francis Jeffers | Cory Gibbs | Hasselbaink | Djimi Traore | Amdy Faye
Under Duchatalet: Nicky Ajose | El-Hadji Ba | Cristian Ceballos | Zakarya Bergdich | Naby Sarr | Ricardo Vaz Te | Roger Johnson | Franck Moussa | George Tucudean | Oguchi Onyewu | Christophe Lepoint | Loïc Nego |Reza Ghoochannejhad | Piotr Parzyszek
So putting those together
You can say that Murray has wasted two managers and has signed about 11 players who have ultimately flopped - remember thats roughly over a 26-year period so its understandable that there will be some poor signings - You also have to remember that Murray basically had to rebuild Charlton from scratch helping us get back to the Valley and building a squad from nothing to get us into the Premier League
Compare that with Duchatalet he's only been here for 3-years and has wasted five managers whilst 14-players have ultimately flopped, unlike Murray though; Roland had to put in very little effort, he inherited a squad that only just over a year before had won League One so and the previous season had finished 9th so only a small amount of investment was needed yet instead has dismantled the squad we had
*Note I've not included any loans27 -
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If you open your eyes you can see that the same mistakes are STILL happening. Listen to what Bob Peeters said about bringing in players. Whilst we may not be constantly palmed off with hapless network players, we are having to make do with cheap crap and loans. The transfer policy hasn't improved. We still end up with a deficient squad after every transfer window closes and we get to listen to a bunch of excuses as to why that is. The reason is obvious, it's because Roland will not put his hand in his pocket and allow any of his managers to build a proper squad. As usual the squad has very little quality in depth. A few injuries and suspensions and we are relying on sub par players or kids to come in and plug the gaps.Major said:
Fair comment but I am just someone who wants to move forward and have thoroughly taken on board all the mortifying mistakes that have occurred and don't need to be told about them again and again. But that is just me. I also happen to sense (imagine?) some improvement, so I am not entirely sure it is accurate to say the Peeters era is how the club is currently being run. Clutching at straws? maybe - but dwelling in a negative past is something I don't quite understand as I want the club to move forward. I hope that explains the opening paragraph of my previous post.LuckyReds said:
I can't find too much fault in the second paragraph, you're welcome to your interpretation - and to be fair I think there's some merit in what you're saying. I suspect his bullying antics were a big concern for the club, especially if his objective was solely to keep us up.Major said:Obviously appeals to some, judging by the comments and a couple of opportunities to have yet another 'dig' for others but I don't get the point of the regurgitation. The aim being what, exactly?
Perhaps it clarified one thing, at least a previous poster thinks so - and that was Peeters getting sacked 'because he had a backbone'. I thought he was sacked because, among other failures, he was a bully and was caught making disparaging remarks about certain players during training. In fact, being a bully, I felt that was the reason he wanted Morrison out because Morrison was 'Charlton' and he really DID have a backbone and so stood up to Peeters. Depends who is writing the history, I guess.
However I think you're being a bit unfair saying that there's little to be gained from what is essentially "regurgitation". As someone who clearly feels there's an agenda behind most of the posters, surely you can understand the real value that comes from having these events explained first hand? After all, there is very little question over the credibility of what is mentioned.
As for the aim, surely you can see the aim is simply to gain an understanding in to how our club is currently being ran. Nothing more, nothing less. If things were being done sensibly and correctly then there would be very little to complain about would there? Unfortunately, as per the first hand accounts, the majority of the fears and rumours are indeed correct.
It's not good enough and regardless of what division we are in, we can only hope to tread water (at best). If you want to see what the worst case scenario is, just look at last season and the overall decline since the regime took over.7 -
He is NOT pumping a ton of money in. He is LENDING the club money. Which means we are massively in debt to someone who is wasting the money he puts in.Major said:
Oh right - The owner with the 'egg shell filled with manure' is a multi millionaire pumping a ton of money into CAFC. What do you offer? Smart arsed comments. What does that make you?Dave2l said:Just listened.
What is clearer by the minute is that Roland Duchatelets brain is like an egg shell filled with manure.21 -
I think the Major talks bollocks but that was a disgusting thing to say @Ormiston AddickMajor said:
Is that supposed to be humorous? My aunt died in Bexley Mental Hospital. She suffered brain damage as a result of a German bomb blowing up her home during the Blitz. I don't recall hearing about her shitting in her pyjamas every half hour. And yes, I do count my blessings that my mum survived the blast.Ormiston Addick said:
Turn it up mate, just count your blessings the Tories introduced Care in the Community or you'd be in Bexley Mental Hospital shitting your pyjamas every half hour.Major said:If it wasn't for Roland's money, you wouldn't even have a chance to be bitching and whining at every opportunity because there would likely not even be a club thanks to the Spiv front men for Kevin Cash. You name me one club that has not burned money on shit players. How about listing the useless players (and managers) that Richard Murray blew millions on.
Suck it up buttercup, like it or lump it, we now have a better manager, a better squad and more and more supporters that recognize the efforts and are more interested in the success of the team than jaded agendas from a time when new owner got it completely wrong. What is actually 'dumb as fuck' is willful ignorance.4 -
And then pay him an extra 3% in interest for the privilege of wasting his money.WestCountryAddick said:
He is NOT pumping a ton of money in. He is LENDING the club money. Which means we are massively in debt to someone who is wasting the money he puts in.Major said:
Oh right - The owner with the 'egg shell filled with manure' is a multi millionaire pumping a ton of money into CAFC. What do you offer? Smart arsed comments. What does that make you?Dave2l said:Just listened.
What is clearer by the minute is that Roland Duchatelets brain is like an egg shell filled with manure.
Marvellous.4 -
That comment indicating RD was our saviour sounds awfully familiar.....Major said:If it wasn't for Roland's money, you wouldn't even have a chance to be bitching and whining at every opportunity because there would likely not even be a club thanks to the Spiv front men for Kevin Cash. You name me one club that has not burned money on shit players. How about listing the useless players (and managers) that Richard Murray blew millions on.
Suck it up buttercup, like it or lump it, we now have a better manager, a better squad and more and more supporters that recognize the efforts and are more interested in the success of the team than jaded agendas from a time when new owner got it completely wrong. What is actually 'dumb as fuck' is willful ignorance.
Do you like vol au vents by any chance, Major ?
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No chance that was the liar posting, it was timed at 5.03am !!!! Mind you she could of been on holiday I supposeAll_Thaid_Up said:
Thanks Katrien! your little pep talk is inspiring!Major said:If it wasn't for Roland's money, you wouldn't even have a chance to be bitching and whining at every opportunity because there would likely not even be a club thanks to the Spiv front men for Kevin Cash. You name me one club that has not burned money on shit players. How about listing the useless players (and managers) that Richard Murray blew millions on.
Suck it up buttercup, like it or lump it, we now have a better manager, a better squad and more and more supporters that recognize the efforts and are more interested in the success of the team than jaded agendas from a time when new owner got it completely wrong. What is actually 'dumb as fuck' is willful ignorance.
Now take the rest of the day off you are working too hard.0 -
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Probably in Dubai againcharltonbob said:
No chance that was the liar posting, it was timed at 5.03am !!!! Mind you she could of been on holiday I supposeAll_Thaid_Up said:
Thanks Katrien! your little pep talk is inspiring!Major said:If it wasn't for Roland's money, you wouldn't even have a chance to be bitching and whining at every opportunity because there would likely not even be a club thanks to the Spiv front men for Kevin Cash. You name me one club that has not burned money on shit players. How about listing the useless players (and managers) that Richard Murray blew millions on.
Suck it up buttercup, like it or lump it, we now have a better manager, a better squad and more and more supporters that recognize the efforts and are more interested in the success of the team than jaded agendas from a time when new owner got it completely wrong. What is actually 'dumb as fuck' is willful ignorance.
Now take the rest of the day off you are working too hard.0 -
That comment indicating RD was our saviour sounds awfully familiar.....
Do you like vol au vents by any chance, Major ?
I adore them, Fanny. I also like inspiring debate. :-)0 -
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Or trolling as it's commonly known.Major said:
That comment indicating RD was our saviour sounds awfully familiar.....
Do you like vol au vents by any chance, Major ?
I adore them, Fanny. I also like inspiring debate. :-)5 -
Perhaps it is, in your ridiculously small and increasingly miserable world.WestCountryAddick said:
Or trolling as it's commonly known.Major said:
That comment indicating RD was our saviour sounds awfully familiar.....
Do you like vol au vents by any chance, Major ?
I adore them, Fanny. I also like inspiring debate. :-)0 -
Post of the century! What the hell are we moaning about?Major said:If it wasn't for Roland's money, you wouldn't even have a chance to be bitching and whining at every opportunity because there would likely not even be a club thanks to the Spiv front men for Kevin Cash. You name me one club that has not burned money on shit players. How about listing the useless players (and managers) that Richard Murray blew millions on.
Suck it up buttercup, like it or lump it, we now have a better manager, a better squad and more and more supporters that recognize the efforts and are more interested in the success of the team than jaded agendas from a time when new owner got it completely wrong. What is actually 'dumb as fuck' is willful ignorance.3 -
My world is rather large and for the most part very happy. I should imagine that living under that bridge is rather small and quite a miserable experience though.Major said:
Perhaps it is, in your ridiculously small and increasingly miserable world.WestCountryAddick said:
Or trolling as it's commonly known.Major said:
That comment indicating RD was our saviour sounds awfully familiar.....
Do you like vol au vents by any chance, Major ?
I adore them, Fanny. I also like inspiring debate. :-)4 -
Good to hear people speak highly of Katrien.2
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Do you still see Basil and Sybil, Major?Major said:
Perhaps it is, in your ridiculously small and increasingly miserable world.WestCountryAddick said:
Or trolling as it's commonly known.Major said:
That comment indicating RD was our saviour sounds awfully familiar.....
Do you like vol au vents by any chance, Major ?
I adore them, Fanny. I also like inspiring debate. :-)9 -
Is that when I am not in a mental hospital messing in my pyjamas? You seem to have a small group of particularly nasty people on here who cannot stand someone with a different perspective and so engage in OTT attacks, name calling, etc. I have to wonder where the fear comes from and why it is so close to the surface. Things not as bad as you had hoped?WestCountryAddick said:
My world is rather large and for the most part very happy. I should imagine that living under that bridge is rather small and quite a miserable experience though.Major said:
Perhaps it is, in your ridiculously small and increasingly miserable world.WestCountryAddick said:
Or trolling as it's commonly known.Major said:
That comment indicating RD was our saviour sounds awfully familiar.....
Do you like vol au vents by any chance, Major ?
I adore them, Fanny. I also like inspiring debate. :-)0 -
Can we have a robust debate without resorting to insults please.4
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Insults which are very happy to indulge in yourself and often initiate.Major said:
Is that when I am not in a mental hospital messing in my pyjamas? You seem to have a small group of particularly nasty people on here who cannot stand someone with a different perspective and so engage in OTT attacks, name calling, etc. I have to wonder where the fear comes from and why it is so close to the surface. Things not as bad as you had hoped?WestCountryAddick said:
My world is rather large and for the most part very happy. I should imagine that living under that bridge is rather small and quite a miserable experience though.Major said:
Perhaps it is, in your ridiculously small and increasingly miserable world.WestCountryAddick said:
Or trolling as it's commonly known.Major said:
That comment indicating RD was our saviour sounds awfully familiar.....
Do you like vol au vents by any chance, Major ?
I adore them, Fanny. I also like inspiring debate. :-)
There is no fear other than a fans fear of seeing their club's three year decline continue.3 -
I adore them, Fanny. I also like inspiring debate. :-)Major said:
That comment indicating RD was our saviour sounds awfully familiar.....
Do you like vol au vents by any chance, Major ?
Not many people agreeing with you Nigel.3
