Obviously the usual whingers on here wanted him gone. That said, a win yesterday would have put us around 5th in the current form table. The whingers will now be on here moaning at the club for sacking him. Funny old game.
We didn't win on Saturday though.
And we're 15th in the actual table.
People are 'whinging' as you put it because they are sick and tired of seeing the club sinking further and further week after week because of ineptitude on and off the pitch.
Yes I complained heavily about Slade's football, and yes I'm going to complain just as much about his incompetent replacement - deal with it.
Got your point. The football has been so good for the last 5 years it has been a real shock to the system to see the dross we now play. Fact is, things have been slowly ( and i do mean slowly ) improving. The Swindon game was a step back, I think we all know why. People like you moan so much that those of us trying to see some positives are being suffocated. You have even acknowledged you are ready to boo the new bloke already. Why not let him join and then decide after a few games ? To do anything other than that is a sign of sheer stupidity. Oh, and tomsign off, DEAL WITH THAT !! ( and before you think otherwise , I support CARD )
Slowly improving? As in we were managing to get draws with awful sides at home rather than losing to them, whilst still lingering in the bottom half of League One you mean?
Look for positives all you want - you are wasting your time. What positives have you found whilst trying to do that over the past year and a half?
We have employed network nobody one after another and every time it has been a disaster. Why on earth do you think I should just say "oh well this bloke who managed Roland's other club might be completely different!" ???
I'm sick of the club being constantly played with, so no I'm not willing to give any Roland yes man a chance ever again. The tolerance of some fans is to be admired at times but there comes a point when it is purely just a matter of having your head in the sand.
Richard Cawley @RichCawleySLP 6s7 seconds ago Think one of the things that went unseen by fans with Slade was some of foundations put in behind scenes - improved spirit around the club.
Richard Cawley @RichCawleySLP 11s11 seconds ago Because was experienced boss he could fend off unwanted players and he did things to build positive mood for players.
Richard Cawley @RichCawleySLP 7s7 seconds ago Made quite a few changes at training ground. You can make case that team wasn't exciting to watch but he had one transfer window.
Richard Cawley @RichCawleySLP 30s30 seconds ago Couple of deals didn't quite fall in summer. Waited on getting Louis Thompson from Norwich but he ended up sticking where he was.
Richard Cawley @RichCawleySLP 14s14 seconds ago And the run until Christmas is tough. Home to Port Vale, Sheff Utd and Peterborough - all in play-off positions.
Richard Cawley @RichCawleySLP 6s6 seconds ago Away to Bristol Rovers, Bradford and Millwall. Something for the new boss to get his teeth into.....
O'Loughlin will relish this.
He'll probably lose all six and we'll be on our third manager by Christmas.
Don't bet with Otto this time Elfs, learn from your mistake
Here we go again with Duchatelet & Meire making complete fools of themselves, bringing further humiliation on the club they've now shown beyond all reasonable doubt that they are utterly incapable of managing.
Slade's football has certainly given cause for concern at times but without a major breach of discipline his sacking after just 16 games only serves to illustrate further the complete incompetence of the CEO and owner as they create yet another crisis. IF there was a plan in place (tuh!, the very thought of it) to replace him with someone more qualified and with a more positive outlook, it might just about be understandable, but all previous decisions point to another ill-considered cock-up, and probably someone without any of the contacts and reputation Slade enjoys within the game.
So, once again the wrong head is chopped, whilst the cretin who appointed him sits smugly in place spouting crap and wasting resources on PR offensives against the very people she's supposed to be representing. Even for a stubborn, thick-skinned 70 year old who can't be bothered to attend a game, it can't really be that difficult to spot where the rot starts. It's looking more and more as though this is genuinely vindictive now.
Seems obvious to me that Douchebag has made this decision on spur of the moment. Probably on the back of results but also the visits to Belgium.
What it does do is make Pinnochio look even more incompetent and completely undermines her since it was only a few days ago she was on national radio saying that Slade was the right man and will be given time.
Anybody in her position with any self respect would resign.
If the regime think that Chris O'Loughlin, who failed at Sint -Truden and has no relevant experience to the L1 whatsoever, is the answer then they really are delusional lunatics who never learn and should be locked away.
Seems obvious to me that Douchebag has made this decision on spur of the moment. Probably on the back of results but also the visits to Belgium.
What it does do is make Pinnochio look even more incompetent and completely undermines her since it was only a few days ago she was on national radio saying that Slade was the right man and will be given time.
Anybody in her position with any self respect would resign.
To anybody with common sense bar Roland it seems!!!!
Hmm. What does it say about us - and possibly about him - that a club not good enough for him in the summer (and which has become even more of a basket case since) is suddenly appealing.
Well I think we can be pretty clear from M. Duchatelet comments regarding the Belgian "invasion" just who the decision maker is around here.
Isn't it heart warming to know he can make such rational decisions based on just 1.5% of his time. With such a commitment is it anyone wonder he has shown absolutely no evidence of learning from his mistakes.
I was somewhat prophetically going compare on the post match thread last weekends performance against Swindon against Parkinson's last match versus.......Swindon.
It carried the same ineptitude. It carried the same imbalance. It portrayed a team lost which after 16 games simply could not deliver a performance worthy of any semi professional squad. To be fair it was almost a resignation letter from Slade in itself.
Parkinson fell to the "new broom" approach of a new executive.
Today however this executive and in particular this CEO has betrayed another manager.
In truth the basis of any coaching employment to deliver a successful outcome under this regime is currently beyond anyone's ability.
The demands of the profession at any club are already beyond insane. At any given point the manager of any club not positioned in and around the top six risks being classified as a failure or at least having his job under threat.
With this executive you also face the continuing challenge of complete executive ignorance of what running a football club entails. There is no executive leadership. The club is the definition of rudderless. The SMT are the epitome of "teflon" managers. Responsible for everything accountable for nothing.
The sexual discrimination allegation by the owner is as offensive as it ignorant. Truly the erratic words of a remote, disinterested provincial septuagenarian. Clearly he does not do failure because when it is staring him in the face he still cannot even recognise it. His only response is "I'll make the decisions round here". Is it any wonder his CEO is no more than a "puppet".
Any coach or manager has to contend with the interference of any number of known and unknown coaches, scouts, analysts and advisors. It resembles the very worst of management by committee where anybody who knows what they doing have to spend inordinate amounts of time explaining or justifying their decisions to those who simply have no clue and who almost revel in their ignorance and ambivalence.
Once again there appears to be an unhealthy executive relationship with the player clubhouse. Have once again noises from the squad simply got yet another coach /manager sacked.
The job is from top to bottom a poisoned chalice.
Any prospective employee comes to a club where there is no understanding of the industry, of the challenges involved and absolutely no patience in understanding how teams and squads are built and developed.
Then we come to the Duchatelet "trip step" which is the executive obsession with the "player" production line. Slades divergence from this strategy with only Konsa and Lookman featuring inconsistently will not have served him well. No matter those like Peeters who tried to follow the discipline fell under the same bus.
This outcome was written in the summer. Appointed too late, the early training session videos looked as if we were struggling to make up the numbers for a County League side. The pre season Austrian trip was a complete waste of time and money. How many of the current squad were even there?
Once again the transfer window left the manager with a completely unbalanced and one dimensional squad. It has been the bête noire of this executive. We have over 3 seasons been the easiest team to shut down. We simply rely or one or two attacking options with absolutely no depth. Any injury and the opposition just have close one player down. It will never, ever work.
At best it is built in mediocrity at worst it is a recipe for oblivion.
Quite why anyone would choose to work for such people is anyone's guess. The job should carry a health warning but no doubt someone will step into the role. The challenge however will be not only will they have the ability but the empowerment to build a squad to take the club forward without interference. Mr Wilder it appears was nobody's fool.
For all of his faults Slade at least had an industry profile. It is one on which the club relied during the close season. No matter with him regularly being challenged to accept any number of ill equipped signings we can but genuinely fear who is next brought through the door.
Surely any young player seeking to develop their game and progress their career with a club with a 7th appointment in less than 3 years can but surely seek more a stable environment in which to learn their profession.
In performance terms Slade as with his predecessors has failed to deliver the expected results. None however can know the true nature of the internal challenges he (and they) faced in working for the club.
The overall record under this executive speaks for itself and can but position where the problems truly lay.
Now somewhat inured from the emotion of it all following this club today increasingly drives a sense of embarrassment, despair and anger. For the sake of everyone's health and sanity there is a desperate requirement for this Belgian ownership and executive to withdraw from this appalling vanity exercise.
35 months into the "project" can they yet define precisely what they are trying to achieve. Every action, every decision screams out they have not the faintest idea.
Their reputation is now cast in stone. It is irrevocable. There is no path back. There is no redemption. They offer not one redeeming quality.
Any attempt to remain will simply generate even more condemnation, ridicule and derision.
Well I think we can be pretty clear from M. Duchatelet comments regarding the Belgian "invasion" just who the decision maker is around here.
Isn't it heart warming to know he can make such rational decisions based on just 1.5% of his time. With such a commitment is it anyone wonder he has shown absolutely no evidence of learning from his mistakes.
I was somewhat prophetically going compare on the post match thread last weekends performance against Swindon against Parkinson's last match versus.......Swindon.
It carried the same ineptitude. It carried the same imbalance. It portrayed a team lost which after 16 games simply could not deliver a performance worthy of any semi professional squad. To be fair it was almost a resignation letter from Slade in itself.
Parkinson fell to the "new broom" approach of a new executive.
Today however this executive and in particular this CEO has betrayed another manager.
In truth the basis of any coaching employment to deliver a successful outcome under this regime is currently beyond anyone's ability.
The demands of the profession at any club are already beyond insane. At any given point the manager of any club not positioned in and around the top six risks being classified as a failure or at least having his job under threat.
With this executive you also face the continuing challenge of complete executive ignorance of what running a football club entails. There is no executive leadership. The club is the definition of rudderless. The SMT are the epitome of "teflon" managers. Responsible for everything accountable for nothing.
The sexual discrimination allegation by the owner is as offensive as it ignorant. Truly the erratic words of a remote, disinterested provincial septuagenarian. Clearly he does not do failure because when it is staring him in the face he still cannot even recognise it. His only response is "I'll make the decisions round here". Is it any wonder his CEO is no more than a "puppet".
Any coach or manager has to contend with the interference of any number of known and unknown coaches, scouts, analysts and advisors. It resembles the very worst of management by committee where anybody who knows what they doing have to spend inordinate amounts of time explaining or justifying their decisions to those who simply have no clue and who almost revel in their ignorance and ambivalence.
Once again there appears to be an unhealthy executive relationship with the player clubhouse. Have once again noises from the squad simply got yet another coach /manager sacked.
The job is from top to bottom a poisoned chalice.
Any prospective employee comes to a club where there is no understanding of the industry, of the challenges involved and absolutely no patience in understanding how teams and squads are built and developed.
Then we come to the Duchatelet "trip step" which is the executive obsession with the "player" production line. Slades divergence from this strategy with only Konsa and Lookman featuring inconsistently will not have served him well. No matter those like Peeters who tried to follow the discipline fell under the same bus.
This outcome was written in the summer. Appointed too late, the early training session videos looked as if we were struggling to make up the numbers for a County League side. The pre season Austrian trip was a complete waste of time and money. How many of the current squad were even there?
Once again the transfer window left the manager with a completely unbalanced and one dimensional squad. It has been the bête noire of this executive. We have over 3 seasons been the easiest team to shut down. We simply rely or one or two attacking options with absolutely no depth. Any injury and the opposition just have close one player down. It will never, ever work.
At best it is built in mediocrity at worst it is a recipe for oblivion.
Quite why anyone would choose to work for such people is anyone's guess. The job should carry a health warning but no doubt someone will step into the role. The challenge however will be not only will they have the ability but the empowerment to build a squad to take the club forward without interference. Mr Wilder it appears was nobody's fool.
For all of his faults Slade at least had an industry profile. It is one on which the club relied during the close season. No matter with him regularly being challenged to accept any number of ill equipped signings we can but genuinely fear who is next brought through the door.
Surely any young player seeking to develop their game and progress their career with a club with a 7th appointment in less than 3 years can but surely seek more a stable environment in which to learn their profession.
In performance terms Slade as with his predecessors has failed to deliver the expected results. None however can know the true nature of the internal challenges he (and they) faced in working for the club.
The overall record under this executive speaks for itself and can but position where the problems truly lay.
Now somewhat inured from the emotion of it all following this club today increasingly drives a sense of embarrassment, despair and anger. For the sake of everyone's health and sanity there is a desperate requirement for this Belgian ownership and executive to withdraw from this appalling vanity exercise.
35 months into the "project" can they yet define precisely what they are trying to achieve. Every action, every decision screams out they have not the faintest idea.
Their reputation is now cast in stone. It is irrevocable. There is no path back. There is no redemption. They offer not one redeeming quality.
Any attempt to remain will simply generate even more condemnation, ridicule and derision.
We have to make his life a misery. The fight has to go to Belgium and be sustained. That is how we get him to sell. All the fans that went to Belgium are bloody heroes!!!!
Taken in isolation, getting rid of Slade and replacing him with Adkins would, at least for me, be a good move.
Of course why they didn't hire Adkins in the first place and then why they let Slade spend a load of money on his players plus six weeks waiting for Louis Thompson, who given the amount of time wasted on I can only imagine will be a Ballon D'or contender in 3-4 years is another story.
What must JJ and Solly be thinking? 7 managers in 30 months and everyone of them moved on and the players are just expected to carry on under such a 'poisonous' regime. Imagine JJ and Solly standing at Sparrows Lane yesterday being told that manager number 7 has now departed!! Surely they must now see the regime for what it is - destroyers of a once proud football club. I wasn't a fan of RS or his style of football, and last Saturdays offering was pathetic in every sense of the word, but KM said only a week or so ago on Talksport that they had learned from their mistakes and RS is the 'manager' and on a 3 year contract to get us back to where we were - when they took over!! 16 games later - gone!!
CAFC I think will only improve now once either KM or RD/KM have gone. KM is the most inept CEO/COO I have ever witnessed working in that role, and I worked alongside and with far more effective and influential CEO's across the world and for people who make RD's wealth look paltry!! I bear her no personal malice, but in any other business she would have been dismissed, this is now her 7th managerial mistake, leaving aside all the other public 'gaffs' she has made. No owner of any business would tolerate such abject failure, but under the mad man that is RD she seems bulletproof.
RS has been the next scapegoat in this 'weird' ownership and had he been given proper support we may not have seen his exit, we all knew midfield was an issue, and yet nothing 'positive' was done about it. We had 4 players missing for various reasons last Saturday, yet we couldn't replace them, and that is down to poor management and incorrect transfer dealings. We had, it seems, no Plan 'B' if we couldn't get Thompson from Norwich. Overall the club is on a downward spiral and only a change of ownership or at the very least a change of CEO might help us to stop 'spinning' out of control. Sorry to be so depressing, but surely now RD must see it isn't working?
We have to make his life a misery. The fight has to go to Belgium and be sustained. That is how we get him to sell. All the fans that went to Belgium are bloody heroes!!!!
Perhaps the protest fund can pay for a coach convoy to St Truiden?
The naivety of RD & KM is unbelievable. You have to assume they honestly believe they are pretty much blameless and just unlucky that the managers (in their view) keeping letting them down. Slade was on a hiding to nothing with a squad that contains just 1 established attacking midfielder, proven at L2 level only, yet a wealth of 6 first team centre-halves. A squad with only ageing veterans littered with injury problems in midfield (Crofts, Jackson and Foley), leaving just a loan signing in Ulvestad as another central midfield option.
So by making this change now, they presumably really believe the current squad is rounded enough to compete in the top 6. Well it's obvious to anyone who understands football that it isn't. Certain players are but that's not how you build a squad or a first XI.
How can RD keep KM in position with the recruitment of managers, players, contracts etc. leaving us so handicapped? Again and again. A budget hindered by subsidised loans of Ceballos, Watt, Vetokele and Sarr. Would it not have been better to keep the players here if we are paying for them anyway? Maybe Ceballos would have suited League One. I doubt it, but at least we'd be getting something back from someone we are paying for. If we had Sarr we could go for a unique formation to include all 7 centre halves!
We have to make his life a misery. The fight has to go to Belgium and be sustained. That is how we get him to sell. All the fans that went to Belgium are bloody heroes!!!!
Perhaps the protest fund can pay for a coach convoy to St Truiden?
Not a bad idea. Maybe CARD can choose a weekend and instead of people going to the Valley, we can go to a St Truiden game to protest instead.
I don't really have anything to add that's not already been said, except that I would genuinely welcome Nigel Adkins. He got every team he was at to try and play something resembling football, and I reckon he'll be able to manoeuvre his way past fair amounts of the board's draconian diktats.
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Look for positives all you want - you are wasting your time. What positives have you found whilst trying to do that over the past year and a half?
We have employed network nobody one after another and every time it has been a disaster. Why on earth do you think I should just say "oh well this bloke who managed Roland's other club might be completely different!" ???
I'm sick of the club being constantly played with, so no I'm not willing to give any Roland yes man a chance ever again. The tolerance of some fans is to be admired at times but there comes a point when it is purely just a matter of having your head in the sand.
Nigel Adkins in frame again for Charlton job
https://t.co/GYVeqQ5r67
looooooooooool
Isn't it heart warming to know he can make such rational decisions based on just 1.5% of his time. With such a commitment is it anyone wonder he has shown absolutely no evidence of learning from his mistakes.
I was somewhat prophetically going compare on the post match thread last weekends performance against Swindon against Parkinson's last match versus.......Swindon.
It carried the same ineptitude. It carried the same imbalance. It portrayed a team lost which after 16 games simply could not deliver a performance worthy of any semi professional squad. To be fair it was almost a resignation letter from Slade in itself.
Parkinson fell to the "new broom" approach of a new executive.
Today however this executive and in particular this CEO has betrayed another manager.
In truth the basis of any coaching employment to deliver a successful outcome under this regime is currently beyond anyone's ability.
The demands of the profession at any club are already beyond insane. At any given point the manager of any club not positioned in and around the top six risks being classified as a failure or at least having his job under threat.
With this executive you also face the continuing challenge of complete executive ignorance of what running a football club entails. There is no executive leadership. The club is the definition of rudderless. The SMT are the epitome of "teflon" managers. Responsible for everything accountable for nothing.
The sexual discrimination allegation by the owner is as offensive as it ignorant. Truly the erratic words of a remote, disinterested provincial septuagenarian. Clearly he does not do failure because when it is staring him in the face he still cannot even recognise it. His only response is "I'll make the decisions round here". Is it any wonder his CEO is no more than a "puppet".
Any coach or manager has to contend with the interference of any number of known and unknown coaches, scouts, analysts and advisors. It resembles the very worst of management by committee where anybody who knows what they doing have to spend inordinate amounts of time explaining or justifying their decisions to those who simply have no clue and who almost revel in their ignorance and ambivalence.
Once again there appears to be an unhealthy executive relationship with the player clubhouse. Have once again noises from the squad simply got yet another coach /manager sacked.
The job is from top to bottom a poisoned chalice.
Any prospective employee comes to a club where there is no understanding of the industry, of the challenges involved and absolutely no patience in understanding how teams and squads are built and developed.
Then we come to the Duchatelet "trip step" which is the executive obsession with the "player" production line. Slades divergence from this strategy with only Konsa and Lookman featuring inconsistently will not have served him well. No matter those like Peeters who tried to follow the discipline fell under the same bus.
This outcome was written in the summer. Appointed too late, the early training session videos looked as if we were struggling to make up the numbers for a County League side. The pre season Austrian trip was a complete waste of time and money. How many of the current squad were even there?
Once again the transfer window left the manager with a completely unbalanced and one dimensional squad. It has been the bête noire of this executive. We have over 3 seasons been the easiest team to shut down. We simply rely or one or two attacking options with absolutely no depth. Any injury and the opposition just have close one player down. It will never, ever work.
At best it is built in mediocrity at worst it is a recipe for oblivion.
Quite why anyone would choose to work for such people is anyone's guess. The job should carry a health warning but no doubt someone will step into the role. The challenge however will be not only will they have the ability but the empowerment to build a squad to take the club forward without interference. Mr Wilder it appears was nobody's fool.
For all of his faults Slade at least had an industry profile. It is one on which the club relied during the close season. No matter with him regularly being challenged to accept any number of ill equipped signings we can but genuinely fear who is next brought through the door.
Surely any young player seeking to develop their game and progress their career with a club with a 7th appointment in less than 3 years can but surely seek more a stable environment in which to learn their profession.
In performance terms Slade as with his predecessors has failed to deliver the expected results. None however can know the true nature of the internal challenges he (and they) faced in working for the club.
The overall record under this executive speaks for itself and can but position where the problems truly lay.
Now somewhat inured from the emotion of it all following this club today increasingly drives a sense of embarrassment, despair and anger. For the sake of everyone's health and sanity there is a desperate requirement for this Belgian ownership and executive to withdraw from this appalling vanity exercise.
35 months into the "project" can they yet define precisely what they are trying to achieve. Every action, every decision screams out they have not the faintest idea.
Their reputation is now cast in stone. It is irrevocable. There is no path back. There is no redemption. They offer not one redeeming quality.
Any attempt to remain will simply generate even more condemnation, ridicule and derision.
There is no place for them in UK football.
Of course why they didn't hire Adkins in the first place and then why they let Slade spend a load of money on his players plus six weeks waiting for Louis Thompson, who given the amount of time wasted on I can only imagine will be a Ballon D'or contender in 3-4 years is another story.
Imagine JJ and Solly standing at Sparrows Lane yesterday being told that manager number 7 has now departed!! Surely they must now see the regime for what it is - destroyers of a once proud football club.
I wasn't a fan of RS or his style of football, and last Saturdays offering was pathetic in every sense of the word, but KM said only a week or so ago on Talksport that they had learned from their mistakes and RS is the 'manager' and on a 3 year contract to get us back to where we were - when they took over!! 16 games later - gone!!
CAFC I think will only improve now once either KM or RD/KM have gone. KM is the most inept CEO/COO I have ever witnessed working in that role, and I worked alongside and with far more effective and influential CEO's across the world and for people who make RD's wealth look paltry!!
I bear her no personal malice, but in any other business she would have been dismissed, this is now her 7th managerial mistake, leaving aside all the other public 'gaffs' she has made. No owner of any business would tolerate such abject failure, but under the mad man that is RD she seems bulletproof.
RS has been the next scapegoat in this 'weird' ownership and had he been given proper support we may not have seen his exit, we all knew midfield was an issue, and yet nothing 'positive' was done about it. We had 4 players missing for various reasons last Saturday, yet we couldn't replace them, and that is down to poor management and incorrect transfer dealings. We had, it seems, no Plan 'B' if we couldn't get Thompson from Norwich. Overall the club is on a downward spiral and only a change of ownership or at the very least a change of CEO might help us to stop 'spinning' out of control.
Sorry to be so depressing, but surely now RD must see it isn't working?
So by making this change now, they presumably really believe the current squad is rounded enough to compete in the top 6. Well it's obvious to anyone who understands football that it isn't. Certain players are but that's not how you build a squad or a first XI.
How can RD keep KM in position with the recruitment of managers, players, contracts etc. leaving us so handicapped? Again and again. A budget hindered by subsidised loans of Ceballos, Watt, Vetokele and Sarr. Would it not have been better to keep the players here if we are paying for them anyway? Maybe Ceballos would have suited League One. I doubt it, but at least we'd be getting something back from someone we are paying for. If we had Sarr we could go for a unique formation to include all 7 centre halves!
I don't really have anything to add that's not already been said, except that I would genuinely welcome Nigel Adkins. He got every team he was at to try and play something resembling football, and I reckon he'll be able to manoeuvre his way past fair amounts of the board's draconian diktats.
But, we'll see.