Pitch inspection *GAME CALLED OFF*
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obviously not in the same level as us but my mate whos a ref called about 3 games off in the local vicinity off sat morning, vcd being the more established, as others mentioned its the area around the ground aswell.0
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"A club spokesman said: “People generally lose their position as a result of not doing their job"Henry Irving said:
Not at our club hey KM.7 -
The list of clients for that boiler supplier included Real Madrid. Can't believe they use that often.killerandflash said:
So no good in the circumstances.palarsehater said:regarding the unit itself it would likely be a swimming pool type boiler, fitted these before and there around 7-10k a pop plus install charlton would be looking at a cost of about 15k if the pipework was run etc, admittedly not off the shelf but about a 7-10 day delivery. not much for a man thats sold anything of worth at this club.
With the weather in this country rarely getting that cold
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Ronaldo's personal sauna and jacuzziAddickted said:
The list of clients for that boiler supplier included Real Madrid. Can't believe they use that often.killerandflash said:
So no good in the circumstances.palarsehater said:regarding the unit itself it would likely be a swimming pool type boiler, fitted these before and there around 7-10k a pop plus install charlton would be looking at a cost of about 15k if the pipework was run etc, admittedly not off the shelf but about a 7-10 day delivery. not much for a man thats sold anything of worth at this club.
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What evidence is there of our COO being competent at catering?BDL said:
My point is that we used to have a management team that got involved, asked questions and generally managed things properly.valleynick66 said:BDL said:
Someone said to me that the club had all that time when we were in the Premier League to install undersoil heating etc, to be fair they could have but we did have the dome which was highly effective and cheaper, I think.Exiled_Addick said:
Now that is fairer criticism, and pointing a finger in the right direction in terms of who to ask questions of.BDL said:A decent operations manager would have looked at the forecast and spoken to his staff at the start of the week.
A decent operations manager would have taken steps to ensure that the pitch was covered and used all facilities open to him to get the game on, blowers, covers etc.
That happened at Ebbsfleet.
The person in charge at Charlton failed to take these steps, despite having all the pipe work in place as was so heralded 3 years ago; he had the option of hiring a boiler for about £1500 per day, say total cost of £10k to run. I'm sure @Airman Brown could work out the figures better than me but a small investment to get the game on would be less than money lost in rescheduling for a midweek game with a lower attendance.
This is all down to penny pinching. Well done Tony, you've cost your boss more money. You know how much Roland likes to take and not give. A stitch in time and all that?
TK may well could and should have done something more about it for the reasons you state.
Doesn't mean Roland told him not to hire one, and if your costs for boiler hire are correct it could have been done within the clubs ecisting budget without the need for Roland to dip into his own pockets again.
The thing is that from the Chief Executive down they used to be involved, checking and making sure that the game could go on. As I said in my earlier post, Proper football people who know how to run a football club.
So that might suggest the ground staff as presumably proper football people, don't know what they are doing? I'm sure I've read comments on here that the management team delegate and don't involve themselves in details they dont want to. We can't reasonanly argue that absolutely everything negative is a result of the inexperience of the ownership.
They would have asked the questions and ensured that the equipment was hired in or borrowed (as in the blotter, remember that?)
Now we have a CEO who swans in to the ground for a nice meal less than 3 hours before kick off and a Chief Operating Officer who may be competent in catering but hasn't a scooby about running a football club, delegating then shouting at people when things don't go as expected.2 -
Didn't Delaware North come fourth in football ground 'hot dog of the year' competition about five years ago?Alwaysneil said:
What evidence is there of our COO being competent at catering?BDL said:
My point is that we used to have a management team that got involved, asked questions and generally managed things properly.valleynick66 said:BDL said:
Someone said to me that the club had all that time when we were in the Premier League to install undersoil heating etc, to be fair they could have but we did have the dome which was highly effective and cheaper, I think.Exiled_Addick said:
Now that is fairer criticism, and pointing a finger in the right direction in terms of who to ask questions of.BDL said:A decent operations manager would have looked at the forecast and spoken to his staff at the start of the week.
A decent operations manager would have taken steps to ensure that the pitch was covered and used all facilities open to him to get the game on, blowers, covers etc.
That happened at Ebbsfleet.
The person in charge at Charlton failed to take these steps, despite having all the pipe work in place as was so heralded 3 years ago; he had the option of hiring a boiler for about £1500 per day, say total cost of £10k to run. I'm sure @Airman Brown could work out the figures better than me but a small investment to get the game on would be less than money lost in rescheduling for a midweek game with a lower attendance.
This is all down to penny pinching. Well done Tony, you've cost your boss more money. You know how much Roland likes to take and not give. A stitch in time and all that?
TK may well could and should have done something more about it for the reasons you state.
Doesn't mean Roland told him not to hire one, and if your costs for boiler hire are correct it could have been done within the clubs ecisting budget without the need for Roland to dip into his own pockets again.
The thing is that from the Chief Executive down they used to be involved, checking and making sure that the game could go on. As I said in my earlier post, Proper football people who know how to run a football club.
So that might suggest the ground staff as presumably proper football people, don't know what they are doing? I'm sure I've read comments on here that the management team delegate and don't involve themselves in details they dont want to. We can't reasonanly argue that absolutely everything negative is a result of the inexperience of the ownership.
They would have asked the questions and ensured that the equipment was hired in or borrowed (as in the blotter, remember that?)
Now we have a CEO who swans in to the ground for a nice meal less than 3 hours before kick off and a Chief Operating Officer who may be competent in catering but hasn't a scooby about running a football club, delegating then shouting at people when things don't go as expected.
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If I remember we got off train about 150 of us, and did not believe the police it was off. An left the station, they got all upset and it kicked off a bit with the police, which was rare in them days. Then a police car came tearing up the road an ran a Charlton fan over. They proceeded to get out the car and attempt to arrest the bloke they just ran over. An incident ensued which left a police man flat out on the ground. Lots more turned up an we were forced onto a train for home.blackpool72 said:I remember travelling to port vale about 40 years ago only to be told the game was called off just as we were approaching the ground.
Annoying to say the least.
Very interesting on the way back though as i am sure some on here remember
On the re-arranged fixture on a Tuesday night, we took about 30 of us up there. It was absolutely chucking it down. We went in their end, where an altercation took place. Remembering the events at the station the police came in truncheons out and laid into us. Out of the 30 I think we had 16 arrested.
It that how you rembered it Blackpool ?6 -
Yep pretty much.RaplhMilne said:
If I remember we got off train about 150 of us, and did not believe the police it was off. An left the station, they got all upset and it kicked off a bit with the police, which was rare in them days. Then a police car came tearing up the road an ran a Charlton fan over. They proceeded to get out the car and attempt to arrest the bloke they just ran over. An incident ensued which left a police man flat out on the ground. Lots more turned up an we were forced onto a train for home.blackpool72 said:I remember travelling to port vale about 40 years ago only to be told the game was called off just as we were approaching the ground.
Annoying to say the least.
Very interesting on the way back though as i am sure some on here remember
On the re-arranged fixture on a Tuesday night, we took about 30 of us up there. It was absolutely chucking it down. We went in their end, where an altercation took place. Remembering the events at the station the police came in truncheons out and laid into us. Out of the 30 I think we had 16 arrested.
It that how you rembered it Blackpool ?
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I still maintain my innocenceblackpool72 said:
Yep pretty much.RaplhMilne said:
If I remember we got off train about 150 of us, and did not believe the police it was off. An left the station, they got all upset and it kicked off a bit with the police, which was rare in them days. Then a police car came tearing up the road an ran a Charlton fan over. They proceeded to get out the car and attempt to arrest the bloke they just ran over. An incident ensued which left a police man flat out on the ground. Lots more turned up an we were forced onto a train for home.blackpool72 said:I remember travelling to port vale about 40 years ago only to be told the game was called off just as we were approaching the ground.
Annoying to say the least.
Very interesting on the way back though as i am sure some on here remember
On the re-arranged fixture on a Tuesday night, we took about 30 of us up there. It was absolutely chucking it down. We went in their end, where an altercation took place. Remembering the events at the station the police came in truncheons out and laid into us. Out of the 30 I think we had 16 arrested.
It that how you rembered it Blackpool ?
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Blimey, proper away day that!0
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The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
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Indeed.blackpool72 said:
The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
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Not sure I'd have liked/survived football in the 70's.blackpool72 said:
The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
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Indeed again.stonemuse said:
Indeed.blackpool72 said:
The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
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No internet, no phones. It was spontaneous, hilarious, shit scary......cantersaddick said:
Not sure I'd have liked/survived football in the 70's.blackpool72 said:
The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
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Gillingham game off tonight currently 8 degrees and clear blue sky
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I would probably have been hospitalised n my first away day.Baldybonce said:
No internet, no phones. It was spontaneous, hilarious, shit scary......cantersaddick said:
Not sure I'd have liked/survived football in the 70's.blackpool72 said:
The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
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I was, more than once.cantersaddick said:
I would probably have been hospitalised n my first away day.Baldybonce said:
No internet, no phones. It was spontaneous, hilarious, shit scary......cantersaddick said:
Not sure I'd have liked/survived football in the 70's.blackpool72 said:
The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
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Surprising as the weather seems a bit warmer than at the weekend, maybe they're worried the pitch will freeze after the sun does down?floydroadfaithfull said:Gillingham game off tonight currently 8 degrees and clear blue sky
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Me too ,it never put me off though: )Baldybonce said:
I was, more than once.cantersaddick said:
I would probably have been hospitalised n my first away day.Baldybonce said:
No internet, no phones. It was spontaneous, hilarious, shit scary......cantersaddick said:
Not sure I'd have liked/survived football in the 70's.blackpool72 said:
The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
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me neither. I know it's not very pc now but they were probably some of the best times of my life.blackpool72 said:
Me too ,it never put me off though: )Baldybonce said:
I was, more than once.cantersaddick said:
I would probably have been hospitalised n my first away day.Baldybonce said:
No internet, no phones. It was spontaneous, hilarious, shit scary......cantersaddick said:
Not sure I'd have liked/survived football in the 70's.blackpool72 said:
The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
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The best i agree ,in defence of both of us we were very young and times were totally different.Baldybonce said:
me neither. I know it's not very pc now but they were probably some of the best times of my life.blackpool72 said:
Me too ,it never put me off though: )Baldybonce said:
I was, more than once.cantersaddick said:
I would probably have been hospitalised n my first away day.Baldybonce said:
No internet, no phones. It was spontaneous, hilarious, shit scary......cantersaddick said:
Not sure I'd have liked/survived football in the 70's.blackpool72 said:
The norm in the 70s to be fairAFKABartram said:Blimey, proper away day that!
People of a certain age will understand, younger people possibly not4 -
It was fantastic, we went all over the country with a minimum hardcore of about 40 at every game.
We collected train numbers, tied knots in the toggles of each other's anoraks, helped old ladies cross the road, oh the jolly japes we had, an many a good chuckle with our chums !
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I am of a certain age, and I understand.1
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and sometimes we drank beer!RaplhMilne said:It was fantastic, we went all over the country with a minimum hardcore of about 40 at every game.
We collected train numbers, tied knots in the toggles of each other's anoraks, helped old ladies cross the road, oh the jolly japes we had, an many a good chuckle with our chums !0 -
What i will say is this.
The people i met back then are still the best friends i have now, although we have all turned 60 we still go to Charlton together home and away, out kids who are now in their 20's are friends and also follow Charlton.
Several posters on here are people i met 45 years ago and I've even been on holiday with some of em,so basically without the silly 70s i wouldn't have the good mates that i have now1 -
Other times we would play chase me with the locals. That was fun, they would chase us, an we would run away, then suddenly stop, and turn round an chase them. If we caught them, we would pinch them, and give them Chinese burns !
We once played this with a whole train load of Man United fans at Birmingham New Street (on way to Walsall), that was really fun, we pretended to run away, until lots of them were on our platform, then we chased them. Oh they ran so fast there was chaos, no one wants a pinch or Chinese burn .6 -
Going all day on beer, a microwaved pub pie, honeyroast nuts and chain smoking Kensitas.2
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I remember that day very well. Even got reported in the local Birmingham paperRaplhMilne said:Other times we would play chase me with the locals. That was fun, they would chase us, an we would run away, then suddenly stop, and turn round an chase them. If we caught them, we would pinch them, and give them Chinese burns !
We once played this with a whole train load of Man United fans at Birmingham New Street (on way to Walsall), that was really fun, we pretended to run away, until lots of them were on our platform, then we chased them. Oh they ran so fast there was chaos, no one wants a pinch or Chinese burn .
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Yes, for weeks afterwards at away games the locals would say, we hear you ran Man Utd at Birmingham. We went viral ! (I'm up with the kids)stonemuse said:
I remember that day very well. Even got reported in the local Birmingham paperRaplhMilne said:Other times we would play chase me with the locals. That was fun, they would chase us, an we would run away, then suddenly stop, and turn round an chase them. If we caught them, we would pinch them, and give them Chinese burns !
We once played this with a whole train load of Man United fans at Birmingham New Street (on way to Walsall), that was really fun, we pretended to run away, until lots of them were on our platform, then we chased them. Oh they ran so fast there was chaos, no one wants a pinch or Chinese burn .1
