Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of position.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
There were four errors. First, the ref error, not giving Page an obvious free kick. Then, some awful control by Tex, letting through their forward. Then an impressive recovery by Tex to cut out the cross, but (this one's more unfortunate than anything else) giving it straight back to the crosser. Then, enter Jesus F**king Christ. The rest is misery.
Apart from all that we had everything totally under control
Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of position.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
Powell's first season was really all about a group of players who quickly worked out they weren't getting new contracts and thereafter decided they wouldn't bust a gut. How far that situation is bring replicated here - demotivated players - it's hard to tell, but trying hammer square pegs into round holes is a fool's errand. Just play 4-4-2 and get the points on the board. Then he can do what he likes.
If Robinson ends up in a relegation scrap it will be one of his own making in my view.
Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of position.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
These were my thoughts as well, too many young players / loanees and not enough experience in the side. They showed some ability but there was a lack of leadership and they looked far from being a tightly bonded unit.
Not sure where the goals or next win is going to come from as the next two away trips won't be easy. Looks like the pain and suffering may continue unabated, hope I'm wrong.
Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of position.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
These were my thoughts as well, too many young players / loanees and not enough experience in the side. They showed some ability but there was a lack of leadership and they looked far from being a tightly bonded unit.
Not sure where the goals or next win is going to come from as the next two away trips won't be easy. Looks like the pain and suffering may continue unabated, hope I'm wrong.
The very definition of any side at a Duchatelet club, always was, always will be. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même merde.
A bit tired of all the excuses made for KR - we've gone from being an outside bet for the playoffs to an outside bet for relegation. They just appear to be a collection of individuals on the pitch and not a team. Staying up is now the best we can hope for.
It's been said many times before but I'll Say it again. The manager 's job is to get the best out of his players, That's clearly not happening at the moment. But one thing that is Crystal clear is that the players available to Robinson should have been able to get more than 3 points from our last 6 matches. I am not saying Robinson should be sacked as we desperately need some stability at the club. But if Robinson doesn't start winning matches soon Roland might think otherwise
It's been said many times before but I'll Say it again. The manager 's job is to get the best out of his players, That's clearly not happening at the moment. But one thing that is Crystal clear is that the players available to Robinson should have been able to get more than 3 points from our last 6 matches. I am not saying Robinson should be sacked as we desperately need some stability at the club. But if Robinson doesn't start winning matches soon Roland might think otherwise
We won't get stability unless RD sells up. KR is a crap manager and if he goes we'll just get another one - having stability with a crap manager makes little difference. Nobody decent would want the job under these clowns.
It's been said many times before but I'll Say it again. The manager 's job is to get the best out of his players, That's clearly not happening at the moment. But one thing that is Crystal clear is that the players available to Robinson should have been able to get more than 3 points from our last 6 matches. I am not saying Robinson should be sacked as we desperately need some stability at the club. But if Robinson doesn't start winning matches soon Roland might think otherwise
We won't get stability unless RD sells up. KR is a crap manager and if he goes we'll just get another one - having stability with a crap manager makes little difference. Nobody decent would want the job under these clowns.
I agree entirely with what you are saying, but if Roland doesn't sell for another couple of years someone has to manage the team
It's been said many times before but I'll Say it again. The manager 's job is to get the best out of his players, That's clearly not happening at the moment. But one thing that is Crystal clear is that the players available to Robinson should have been able to get more than 3 points from our last 6 matches. I am not saying Robinson should be sacked as we desperately need some stability at the club. But if Robinson doesn't start winning matches soon Roland might think otherwise
We won't get stability unless RD sells up. KR is a crap manager and if he goes we'll just get another one - having stability with a crap manager makes little difference. Nobody decent would want the job under these clowns.
I agree entirely with what you are saying, but if Roland doesn't sell for another couple of years someone has to manage the team
Agreed but what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't really matter who it is - we're guaranteed to have a poor manager who won't be allowed to manage by the owners. They will be a manager in name only.
We've ceased to function as a football club and the decline will continue under these owners. How far will we drop is anyone's guess?
It's been said many times before but I'll Say it again. The manager 's job is to get the best out of his players, That's clearly not happening at the moment. But one thing that is Crystal clear is that the players available to Robinson should have been able to get more than 3 points from our last 6 matches. I am not saying Robinson should be sacked as we desperately need some stability at the club. But if Robinson doesn't start winning matches soon Roland might think otherwise
We won't get stability unless RD sells up. KR is a crap manager and if he goes we'll just get another one - having stability with a crap manager makes little difference. Nobody decent would want the job under these clowns.
I agree entirely with what you are saying, but if Roland doesn't sell for another couple of years someone has to manage the team
If Roland is here for a couple of years we will have several more people manage the team.
Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of position.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
Powell's first season was really all about a group of players who quickly worked out they weren't getting new contracts and thereafter decided they wouldn't bust a gut. How far that situation is bring replicated here - demotivated players - it's hard to tell, but trying hammer square pegs into round holes is a fool's errand. Just play 4-4-2 and get the points on the board. Then he can do what he likes.
If Robinson ends up in a relegation scrap it will be one of his own making in my view.
I do agree, I wasn't making excuses for Robinson. They're his signings, his line ups and formations, he's talked how great it is to get the average age down, hyped up Aribo and Konsa.
Just a similar situation to Powell in the way that both teams were in no way good enough to challenge for promotion.
Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of positio.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
The point you make about the inexperience of the midfield 5 sums up Charlton under Roland. Happy to make do with untried youth products and bargain basement in the hope that a manager can get something out of them
Sometimes you get lucky with a Lookman. We may get lucky with Aribo and Konsa but they alone won't get you promoted
Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of positio.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
Sometimes you get lucky with a Lookman. We may get lucky with Aribo and Konsa but they alone won't get you promoted
Agreed and it's not guaranteed from L2 either which on current form is where we are heading .
Buckshee had a spare, and I took it, and boy do I regret it. The Valley stinks of death at the moment, the football was shite, no way did we do enough to win, the players don't look interested, the manager has one way of playing, and no one really wanted to be there.
Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of positio.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
The point you make about the inexperience of the midfield 5 sums up Charlton under Roland. Happy to make do with untried youth products and bargain basement in the hope that a manager can get something out of them
Sometimes you get lucky with a Lookman. We may get lucky with Aribo and Konsa but they alone won't get you promoted
We're just as likely to end up with Aribo and Konsa getting ruined like Ahearne-Grant did playing before he was ready.
Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of positio.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
The point you make about the inexperience of the midfield 5 sums up Charlton under Roland. Happy to make do with untried youth products and bargain basement in the hope that a manager can get something out of them
Sometimes you get lucky with a Lookman. We may get lucky with Aribo and Konsa but they alone won't get you promoted
We're just as likely to end up with Aribo and Konsa getting ruined like Ahearne-Grant did playing before he was ready.
Agreed - regan cook or whatever his name is thrown into a bear pit last season like Colchester away when they got slaughtered by the fans. Everyone was so angry you forget this kid was playing one of his first games. He could've been ruined by that experience, he may well be
So actually it cries bullshit that RD cares about investing in youth and promoting our wonderful academy. If he did these youngsters would be phased in with good experienced pros. Not like Aribo has been thrown in because his incompetence in the transfer market has meant we've squandered money on shit players and he doesn't want to pay up to rectify it
This all goes back to the fact RD is c*** and doesn't care who he destroys with his arrogance. Fans, players, managers are all expendable in his evil little experiment
Duchatelet clearly doesn't care about his youth players beyond what money they can earn him. You only have to look at Morgan Fox's comments after he left, the guy was left to sink or swim with little or no guidance from team management. Fox managed to swim and washed up in Sheffield. How many more are going to drown though?
Duchatelet has never appointed a manager with a record of bringing through young players. His only requirement is that the managers are compliant and complicit in his player farming scheme.
I took my nephew for the second time this season, the poor lad has not even seen a goal! Really felt for him.
Popped in Crossbars before the game so that he could see the pitch, it was like an oven in there. Loads of supporters complaining and walking out. Slow to get served etc. I asked two members of staff if the heating could be turned off and they did not bother.
An empty stadium, no goals, crap service at half time. They really are damaging the future generation of supporters (and the existing).
Another thought I had during the game was that it's not that surprising this team are struggling.
Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of positio.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
The point you make about the inexperience of the midfield 5 sums up Charlton under Roland. Happy to make do with untried youth products and bargain basement in the hope that a manager can get something out of them
Sometimes you get lucky with a Lookman. We may get lucky with Aribo and Konsa but they alone won't get you promoted
We're just as likely to end up with Aribo and Konsa getting ruined like Ahearne-Grant did playing before he was ready.
Agreed - regan cook or whatever his name is thrown into a bear pit last season like Colchester away when they got slaughtered by the fans. Everyone was so angry you forget this kid was playing one of his first games. He could've been ruined by that experience, he may well be
So actually it cries bullshit that RD cares about investing in youth and promoting our wonderful academy. If he did these youngsters would be phased in with good experienced pros. Not like Aribo has been thrown in because his incompetence in the transfer market has meant we've squandered money on shit players and he doesn't want to pay up to rectify it
This all goes back to the fact RD is c*** and doesn't care who he destroys with his arrogance. Fans, players, managers are all expendable in his evil little experiment
I think it's unfair on the "c" word to associate it with the "Shareholder", possibly even demeaning....
I was going to finish off with one of those "je suis c***" hash tag thingies, but I have a nasty feeling that that might prove to be unintentionally accurate (as far as my family are concerned).
Rudd apart from some communication issues with his defenders not bad Byrne clearly no full back, drifted out of the game for long periods, prone to hiding Bauer I'd have subbed him halftime concussed or not performances have dropped off alarmingly Teixeira our best c/h but I'm more and more concerned he's coasting through Page wouldn't get in Dartford's side in conference south - terrifyingly out of his depth Forster Caskey robbing a living since his first two outings, if I never see him in red again it will be too soon Aribo energetic as befits his youth but his development is being hampered turning out in this fiasco Konsa he's no midfielder and evidently inexperienced as a c/h at this level not his fault obv Holmes last two showings have been rotten, fashioned one decent cross all game and stank the place up Mavididi talented and energetic, real shame we won't see him again Novak just about a conference lump seems willing enough but sadly has none of the tools or physicality required Crofts marked improvement when he came on, which is the definition of damning with feint praise Magennis he must be wondering what he's signed up to Watt why? Robinson the latest in his ever deepening trough of preposterous selection/formation balls ups, accompanied by a little impotent arm waving from the technical area and much chatting and laughing with his lickspittles. Taking the piss out of Roly I could sort of deal with if it didn't make me feel like such a fuckwit for going to watch it. You fat scouse gobshite you're as bad for this club as that septuagenarian shitforbrains whose €uros you are hosing down the drain, that banner at AFC Wimbledon a while back didn't go far enough. I can't wait for Congo Chris to replace you, regardless of how unqualified he is, better yet it will be Nobby Vinegar, at least with those 2 we'll be in no doubt what's really taking place.
Took my grandson to first footy game. Spent £50 in the club store for some kit and left for home at halftime, bored and cold 5 year old. What a complete disgrace, me putting money in that sh*tbags pocket and me trying to force an innocent child into following Charlton.
It's been said many times before but I'll Say it again. The manager 's job is to get the best out of his players, That's clearly not happening at the moment. But one thing that is Crystal clear is that the players available to Robinson should have been able to get more than 3 points from our last 6 matches. I am not saying Robinson should be sacked as we desperately need some stability at the club. But if Robinson doesn't start winning matches soon Roland might think otherwise
Took my grandson to first footy game. Spent £50 in the club store for some kit and left for home at halftime, bored and cold 5 year old. What a complete disgrace, me putting money in that sh*tbags pocket and me trying to force an innocent child into following Charlton.
Grandad will be loved all the more in years to come.
When he's older we'll have our club back and you can enjoy the good times together.
Took my grandson to first footy game. Spent £50 in the club store for some kit and left for home at halftime, bored and cold 5 year old. What a complete disgrace, me putting money in that sh*tbags pocket and me trying to force an innocent child into following Charlton.
I wrote a blogpost reviewing the game from a Bury perspective but I always try to be as balanced as possible. I thought Charlton lacked a cutting edge, which is characteristic of Karl Robinson sides I have seen in the past. A draw would've been a fairer result on the balance of play. Let me know what you think.
I wrote a blogpost reviewing the game from a Bury perspective but I always try to be as balanced as possible. I thought Charlton lacked a cutting edge, which is characteristic of Karl Robinson sides I have seen in the past. A draw would've been a fairer result on the balance of play. Let me know what you think.
been the same all season .. we have hit the post umpteen times .. no excuse though, the team(s) have been pretty average all season .. too many changes, too many loans who don't really put it right in, too many unfit, suspended and injured players, but mostly having a collection of complete numpty dickheads as 'managers' and a megalomaniac know-nothing as CEO .. other than that .. we're doing OK .. good luck in avoiding the 'drop' except if it is at our expense
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Of our 5 man midfield three are very inexperienced and in their first season of first team football - you could even say two are playing out of position.
Holmes is older but his time has all been spent in the lower leagues. JFC is probably still developing as a player himself and couldn't get into Rotherham's team.
Already mentioned Novak not being an ideal lone striker. In the back four we had a winger and at left back another inexperienced player.
This feels so similar to Powell's first half a season when it got to the point where relegation seemed possible. I guess the one positive is games are still tight and scoring first could make the difference. Goals like Bury's are also avoidable, it came from us failing to clear the ball rather than bad defending.
If Robinson ends up in a relegation scrap it will be one of his own making in my view.
Not sure where the goals or next win is going to come from as the next two away trips won't be easy. Looks like the pain and suffering may continue unabated, hope I'm wrong.
Staying up is now the best we can hope for.
But one thing that is Crystal clear is that the players available to Robinson should have been able to get more than 3 points from our last 6 matches.
I am not saying Robinson should be sacked as we desperately need some stability at the club.
But if Robinson doesn't start winning matches soon Roland might think otherwise
We've ceased to function as a football club and the decline will continue under these owners. How far will we drop is anyone's guess?
Just a similar situation to Powell in the way that both teams were in no way good enough to challenge for promotion.
Sometimes you get lucky with a Lookman. We may get lucky with Aribo and Konsa but they alone won't get you promoted
We're just as likely to end up with Aribo and Konsa getting ruined like Ahearne-Grant did playing before he was ready.
So actually it cries bullshit that RD cares about investing in youth and promoting our wonderful academy. If he did these youngsters would be phased in with good experienced pros. Not like Aribo has been thrown in because his incompetence in the transfer market has meant we've squandered money on shit players and he doesn't want to pay up to rectify it
This all goes back to the fact RD is c*** and doesn't care who he destroys with his arrogance. Fans, players, managers are all expendable in his evil little experiment
Fox managed to swim and washed up in Sheffield. How many more are going to drown though?
Duchatelet has never appointed a manager with a record of bringing through young players. His only requirement is that the managers are compliant and complicit in his player farming scheme.
Popped in Crossbars before the game so that he could see the pitch, it was like an oven in there. Loads of supporters complaining and walking out. Slow to get served etc. I asked two members of staff if the heating could be turned off and they did not bother.
An empty stadium, no goals, crap service at half time. They really are damaging the future generation of supporters (and the existing).
At least he enjoyed his hot dog!
I was going to finish off with one of those "je suis c***" hash tag thingies, but I have a nasty feeling that that might prove to be unintentionally accurate (as far as my family are concerned).
Byrne clearly no full back, drifted out of the game for long periods, prone to hiding
Bauer I'd have subbed him halftime concussed or not performances have dropped off alarmingly
Teixeira our best c/h but I'm more and more concerned he's coasting through
Page wouldn't get in Dartford's side in conference south - terrifyingly out of his depth
Forster Caskey robbing a living since his first two outings, if I never see him in red again it will be too soon
Aribo energetic as befits his youth but his development is being hampered turning out in this fiasco
Konsa he's no midfielder and evidently inexperienced as a c/h at this level not his fault obv
Holmes last two showings have been rotten, fashioned one decent cross all game and stank the place up
Mavididi talented and energetic, real shame we won't see him again
Novak just about a conference lump seems willing enough but sadly has none of the tools or physicality required
Crofts marked improvement when he came on, which is the definition of damning with feint praise
Magennis he must be wondering what he's signed up to
Watt why?
Robinson the latest in his ever deepening trough of preposterous selection/formation balls ups, accompanied by a little impotent arm waving from the technical area and much chatting and laughing with his lickspittles. Taking the piss out of Roly I could sort of deal with if it didn't make me feel like such a fuckwit for going to watch it. You fat scouse gobshite you're as bad for this club as that septuagenarian shitforbrains whose €uros you are hosing down the drain, that banner at AFC Wimbledon a while back didn't go far enough. I can't wait for Congo Chris to replace you, regardless of how unqualified he is, better yet it will be Nobby Vinegar, at least with those 2 we'll be in no doubt what's really taking place.
What a complete disgrace, me putting money in that sh*tbags pocket and me trying to force an innocent child into following Charlton.
When he's older we'll have our club back and you can enjoy the good times together.
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Thanks for posting and all the best