#UnityProtest in Sint-Truiden - Official Protest/'Match' Thread 3rd/4th March 2017
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They sit on their arses doing nothing and slag off people who are actively trying to do something to get Roland out.Jon_CAFC_ said:I don't know if any of you look at the Facebook group but they're seriously grinding my gears at absolutely every turn they're negative towards any form of action as embarrassing and doomed to fail
Their stance is to 'support the team', that they're not regime fans but cannot actualy articulate what they'd do differently other than to slag off any efforts people make.
There's no reasoning with them at all
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Easy to do nothing wrong when you do nothing.blackpool72 said:
They sit on their arses doing nothing and slag off people who are actively trying to do something to get Roland out.Jon_CAFC_ said:I don't know if any of you look at the Facebook group but they're seriously grinding my gears at absolutely every turn they're negative towards any form of action as embarrassing and doomed to fail
Their stance is to 'support the team', that they're not regime fans but cannot actualy articulate what they'd do differently other than to slag off any efforts people make.
There's no reasoning with them at all
Bunch of hypocritical tossers
I also wonder why they get so "embarrassed" about everything.7 -
Roland would have loved the dancing in the ITV report8
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Most of them are teenagers/early 20s like me and I'm embarrassed that so few of my generation of charlton fans are willing to get off their arse and do something about their club being destroyed!Henry Irving said:
Easy to do nothing wrong when you do nothing.blackpool72 said:
They sit on their arses doing nothing and slag off people who are actively trying to do something to get Roland out.Jon_CAFC_ said:I don't know if any of you look at the Facebook group but they're seriously grinding my gears at absolutely every turn they're negative towards any form of action as embarrassing and doomed to fail
Their stance is to 'support the team', that they're not regime fans but cannot actualy articulate what they'd do differently other than to slag off any efforts people make.
There's no reasoning with them at all
Bunch of hypocritical tossers
I also wonder why they get so "embarrassed" about everything.9 -
I respect every fan's opinion but I'm at a loss to explain why anybody doesn't back proactive measures to get them out now.
It's beyond shit. Nothing positive can come of them being in charge and this spiral of decline will continue whilst they remain. I get some might say they don't want CARD speaking on their behalf, but that has never been CARD's intention.
You've also got to look at the pace of decline under them. I don't think that those who are still there 'just to watch the football' realise what a monumental catastrophe these 3 years have been. They took over a championship team with the squad and spirit to continue competing at that level quite comfortably and have taken us to the brink of the basement division.....
What more needs to happen for god's sake39 -
I think EssexAl needs to answer this post..cabbles said:I respect every fan's opinion but I'm at a loss to explain why anybody doesn't back proactive measures to get them out now.
It's beyond shit. Nothing positive can come of them being in charge and this spiral of decline will continue whilst they remain. I get some might say they don't want CARD speaking on their behalf, but that has never been CARD's intention.
You've also got to look at the pace of decline under them. I don't think that those who are still there 'just to watch the football' realise what a monumental catastrophe these 3 years have been. They took over a championship team with the squad and spirit to continue competing at that level quite comfortably and have taken us to the brink of the basement division.....
What more needs to happen for god's sake4 -
I've long reached the point where I class anyone who defends RD as a wind up.cabbles said:I respect every fan's opinion but I'm at a loss to explain why anybody doesn't back proactive measures to get them out now.
It's beyond shit. Nothing positive can come of them being in charge and this spiral of decline will continue whilst they remain. I get some might say they don't want CARD speaking on their behalf, but that has never been CARD's intention.
You've also got to look at the pace of decline under them. I don't think that those who are still there 'just to watch the football' realise what a monumental catastrophe these 3 years have been. They took over a championship team with the squad and spirit to continue competing at that level quite comfortably and have taken us to the brink of the basement division.....
What more needs to happen for god's sake2 -
I think it is easier to do something when you have seen evidence it can make a difference. When we left the Valley I followed the team to Selhurst and thought the fans that refused to come were wrong as the club needed their support and we had left and weren't going back. I was genuinely worried the boycotters would kill my club! So if all fans were like me we would have never gone back and Selhurst was not sustainable. I learned a lot from that. I think the small number of fans going to Selhurst were important and the fans boycotting and actively trying to get Charlton back were more important.
Of course when it became clear a return to the Valley was possible, I got behind it. And I never criticised the other position - I understood it but disagreed it was best for the club. But of course it was, and I was well and truly proven to be wrong. There are lots of things you can't do anymore when you get older - playing football with my dodgy knees for one, but you do learn the lessons that life provides you with from time to time. I think the people in power like the others to think they have none, when they have a lot. Only it becomes a lot when it is the total of many collective littles!6 -
I'm running out of steam with those on Facebook, way too many narcissists. So many slag off the protests yet don't want to get off their ass and make any effort to get Roland out. So many just insult those who support CARD yet won't actually try to prove their point and just insult more.
What makes it worse, now there's talk of ultras, resorting to violence and aggression to get Roland out and that to me is the complete opposite of who Charlton are, and I hope it's something we never see.3 -
Those that are so 'embarrassed' would do themselves a favour by not being embarrassed on the behalf of others, but perhaps themselves.3 -
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Let's see where we are after the summer transfer window.......FFS!cabbles said:I respect every fan's opinion but I'm at a loss to explain why anybody doesn't back proactive measures to get them out now.
It's beyond shit. Nothing positive can come of them being in charge and this spiral of decline will continue whilst they remain. I get some might say they don't want CARD speaking on their behalf, but that has never been CARD's intention.
You've also got to look at the pace of decline under them. I don't think that those who are still there 'just to watch the football' realise what a monumental catastrophe these 3 years have been. They took over a championship team with the squad and spirit to continue competing at that level quite comfortably and have taken us to the brink of the basement division.....
What more needs to happen for god's sake3 -
The dimwits who criticise CARD don't seem to understand the meaning of the word 'coalition'.
For example if one associate of CARD says something, the dimwits assume that all parts of the coalition thinks and feels exactly the same.
When the Tories and the Liberals were in coalition most people didn't assume they had become the same party.
A bit like a family. If Uncle George is an Alcoholic, it doesn't follow that everybody in the family agrees with drinking to excess, but recognises that everybody is in the family nevertheless.
A coalition usually comes together with a sense of ignoring smaller differences for the greater objective.14 -
And you came across very well indeed @InspectorSands so well done!InspectorSands said:Good ITV report. Obviously the club's statement was cobblers, but then so is everything they come out with.
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Those advocating violence will never be part of the CARD, Belgium 20 protest and the minute we resort to it, which we won't, we lose the argument. But there are 4 positions - those that think Roland is the best thing for our club (yes about two of them who would be against him if everybody else was for him), then you have those that believe he is rubbish, but don't believe we can do anything about it and protesting only damages the club and he may suddenly change his ways, then you have those that feel the path under Roland leads to oblivion and are fighting against him to save their club (I'm here) and finally those that hold the previous view, but only believe he will listen to aggresion (thankfully very small numbers of these, but you don't need big numbers).Sheepie1985 said:I'm running out of steam with those on Facebook, way too many narcissists. So many slag off the protests yet don't want to get off their ass and make any effort to get Roland out. So many just insult those who support CARD yet won't actually try to prove their point and just insult more.
What makes it worse, now there's talk of ultras, resorting to violence and aggression to get Roland out and that to me is the complete opposite of who Charlton are, and I hope it's something we never see.
You can't win the argument when people have their own personal motivations that have nothing to do with the owner, but you can win over the others when the next round of promises don't come to anything. Of course if the club suddenly becomes well run and goes in the right direction, people will desert the protests. For me it isn't a big if - I have seen enough to know that won't happen. But we will all have different points when we work that out!2 -
They're not even Roland supporters, they just don't agree with protesting. They see it as a waste of time and effort. Seems to be the same people that think if the manager gets time and money to spend it'll be ok next season. He never will under RD.Lurker said:
I've long reached the point where I class anyone who defends RD as a wind up.cabbles said:I respect every fan's opinion but I'm at a loss to explain why anybody doesn't back proactive measures to get them out now.
It's beyond shit. Nothing positive can come of them being in charge and this spiral of decline will continue whilst they remain. I get some might say they don't want CARD speaking on their behalf, but that has never been CARD's intention.
You've also got to look at the pace of decline under them. I don't think that those who are still there 'just to watch the football' realise what a monumental catastrophe these 3 years have been. They took over a championship team with the squad and spirit to continue competing at that level quite comfortably and have taken us to the brink of the basement division.....
What more needs to happen for god's sake
No real success is possible when the priority is developing young players. It might work for a smaller club but not with the expectations we have at this level. As for the Championship it's far too difficult a league for it work there.
I'm sure some of them would feel different if the protests were violent, but of course everyone that suggests that always wants someone else to do it.4 -
Narcissists on Facebook Sheepie? Surely not!!Sheepie1985 said:I'm running out of steam with those on Facebook, way too many narcissists. So many slag off the protests yet don't want to get off their ass and make any effort to get Roland out. So many just insult those who support CARD yet won't actually try to prove their point and just insult more.
What makes it worse, now there's talk of ultras, resorting to violence and aggression to get Roland out and that to me is the complete opposite of who Charlton are, and I hope it's something we never see.0 -
Ha I know, it's like Jeremy Kyle on there these days! I seem to be on a mission to try and educate those on there who slag anyone off lately (I'm Justin on there...probably seen my posts), but sometimes I'm seriously left banging my head against the wall at the attitudes of mostbazjonster said:
Narcissists on Facebook Sheepie? Surely not!!
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Key word there is "talk". No action though.Sheepie1985 said:I'm running out of steam with those on Facebook, way too many narcissists. So many slag off the protests yet don't want to get off their ass and make any effort to get Roland out. So many just insult those who support CARD yet won't actually try to prove their point and just insult more.
What makes it worse, now there's talk of ultras, resorting to violence and aggression to get Roland out and that to me is the complete opposite of who Charlton are, and I hope it's something we never see.3 -
Joe Read recorded an audio diary of the trip and here it is -
https://audioboom.com/posts/5678935-unityprotest-diary-cafc-fans-head-to-belgium-to-demonstrate-against-duchatelet5 -
Interesting to see the coaches were supplied by the same company the club uses for Valley Express and Valley Away, bet the club are not to happy about that.11
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Very prescient of you Prague.PragueAddick said:Based on the experience of the Olympic Stadium campaign, I am not at all surprised to read the relative assessments of the BBC's Chris Slegg, and ITV's Amy Lewis. Only worry is because the BBC are much better at actually gathering news ( rather than pre-determining what the news is) something else might come along to shorten or bump off Chris's piece tonight. Cross fingers.
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i didn't realised you owned the cloob?!?!blackpool72 said:Both sides report's were ok tbf
Let's hope it embarrasses the senile old scrote and encourages him to sell up sooner rather than later
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ricky_otto said:
i didn't realised you owned the cloob?!?!blackpool72 said:Both sides report's were ok tbf
Let's hope it embarrasses the senile old scrote and encourages him to sell up sooner rather than later
The fire service pension obviously goes a long way.1 -
Jon - I think the clue is FacebookJon_CAFC_ said:I don't know if any of you look at the Facebook group but they're seriously grinding my gears at absolutely every turn they're negative towards any form of action as embarrassing and doomed to fail
Their stance is to 'support the team', that they're not regime fans but cannot actualy articulate what they'd do differently other than to slag off any efforts people make.
There's no reasoning with them at all
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Ha - i'm on the front page.
John, can you keep the paper please ?1 -
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Brilliant photos0
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Good report here. Apologies if linked above.
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