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Football died a little bit yesterday (VAR)

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  • Watching Cardiff and Chelsea makes me wonder why VAR needs to be so complicated with long stoppages and pointless existential debates about what "deliberate" actually means.

    Why not just have somebody watching on TV and assisting the ref in the same way the linesman already does. No one need ever know it's happening! 

  • Because for every clear cut howler like today’s there are two or three very marginal decisions that require many replays. Football is such a fast game that if they didn’t stop play it wouldn’t be long before something else game changing occurred such as a goal at the other end and then the unfairnesses become complicated.
  • Isn't VAR only suppossed to be about clear incorrect decisions, therefore marginal decisions should not be changed.  Personally i would like to see referees given a time limit in which to make a decision, day 60 seconds, if they cannot decide in that time then tue decision stands.
  • Watching Cardiff and Chelsea makes me wonder why VAR needs to be so complicated with long stoppages and pointless existential debates about what "deliberate" actually means.

    Why not just have somebody watching on TV and assisting the ref in the same way the linesman already does. No one need ever know it's happening! 

    How do you know it isn't?
  • Chizz said:
    Watching Cardiff and Chelsea makes me wonder why VAR needs to be so complicated with long stoppages and pointless existential debates about what "deliberate" actually means.

    Why not just have somebody watching on TV and assisting the ref in the same way the linesman already does. No one need ever know it's happening! 

    How do you know it isn't?
    Well it certainly wasn't yesterday!
  • VAR correctly reverses City’s last minute goal and sends Spurs into the semi final of the Champions League.
  • VAR correctly reverses City’s last minute goal and sends Spurs into the semi final of the Champions League.
    Good
  • edited April 2019
    Anyone want to argue the merits of VAR after that needs their head examined.
  • Football is alive and well 
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  • edited April 2019
    VAR correctly reverses City’s last minute goal and sends Spurs into the semi final of the Champions League.
    Diminishes the experience of watching it live in the stadium, human error is part of referring which is good for the game 
    Wrong. Every review was spot on. And I wanted City to win.
  • It will kill goal celebrations because players and managers won’t know if their goal is legit when they’ve scored which is a shame .

    You can’t deny it adds to the drama but I still don’t like it . 
    No it won’t. If it gets ruled a goal you can celebrate again. 
  • Didnt stop Sterling celebrating tonight...
  • It will kill goal celebrations because players and managers won’t know if their goal is legit when they’ve scored which is a shame .

    You can’t deny it adds to the drama but I still don’t like it . 
    Yeah that’s exactly what just happened in Manchester... oh wait
  • VAR correctly reverses City’s last minute goal and sends Spurs into the semi final of the Champions League.
    Diminishes the experience of watching it live in the stadium, human error is part of referring which is good for the game 
    And guess what? We are still talking about it after the game has finished. And those that were there will talk about for years because the right decisions were made. Instead of slaughtering the officials they were brilliant.
  • edited April 2019
    It will kill goal celebrations because players and managers won’t know if their goal is legit when they’ve scored which is a shame .

    You can’t deny it adds to the drama but I still don’t like it . 
    Yeah that’s exactly what just happened in Manchester... oh wait
    Exactly my point .
    It’s early days with VAR . I can’t see managers going ape shit like Pep did tonight for too much longer . It’s a little embarrassing when it’s overturned . If that spreads to the fans as well then it’s a terrible thing . Thankfully it’s not likely  to affect Charlton games for the forceable future .  
  • Didnt stop Sterling celebrating tonight...
    This time 
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  • edited April 2019
    Lmao

    So you're saying you don't like it because it's correcting the injustice of human error.

    Personally I think it's fantastic although a ,ychallenge system would be a benefit for one chance per game that the ref doesn't go to VAR
  • TBF to the Ref he wanted to be sure with Llorente goal. No way could he disallow that because it wasn't a clear and obvious mistake. Aguero was just offside so yet again VAR is a great addition because it will get 99% of the big decisions right opposed to 75% when left to referees and assistance.

    VAR can't be wrong ?
    Only humans error when they viewed the wrong clip in some game earlier in the season. 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Lmao

    So you're saying you don't like it because it's not correcting the injustice of human error.

    Personally I think it's fantastic although a ,ychallenge system would be a benefit for one chance per game that the ref doesn't go to VAR
    But then what if a team loses their challenge and later loses the match with a goal that VAR would have ruled out? We are then back to square one where the officials are criticised for making a mistake. 
  • edited April 2019
    Didnt stop Sterling celebrating tonight...
    This time 
    Surely it's no different to when a forward looks down the line to see if the lino waved offside?

    They still celebrate then their mood is changed by the decision. Now they'll think "oh bollocks I've not scored." Then be awarded or stripped of the goal. Cue celebrations or surrounding the ref.
  • edited April 2019
    Dazzler21 said:
    Lmao

    So you're saying you don't like it because it's not correcting the injustice of human error.

    Personally I think it's fantastic although a ,ychallenge system would be a benefit for one chance per game that the ref doesn't go to VAR
    Who’s said “ I don’t like it because it’s not correcting the injustice of human error  ?  LMAO 
  • Llorentes goal looked handball to me .
    im sure if we lose in the last minute of the play off final with our opposition scoring one like that and there is no VAR ( i don’t know if there is or not at the play off final ) and everyone here saying right decisions by VAR would agree with it or would they be saying oh VAR would have spotted that and we may have gone up.

    in all seriousness I could see why it wasn’t given as a goal and if it was disallowed I could understand that as well , subjective I suppose 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Didnt stop Sterling celebrating tonight...
    This time 
    Surely it's no different to when a forward looks down the line to see if the link waved offside? They still celebrate then their mood is changed by the decision. Now they'll think "oh bollocks I've not scored." Then be awarded or stripped of the goal. Cue celebrations or surrounding the ref.
    No because that’s pretty much instantaneous. The time it takes to go VAR kills that . 
  • Llorente's goal looked like handball from the camera behind the goal but when the ref viewed it they did not show that angle. 
  • 1StevieG said:
    Anyone want to argue the merits of VAR after that needs their head examined.
    They can always VAR the decision after
  • It's indisputable that getting the correct decision is good for football, however, I think it's also pretty obvious VAR needs a lot of work to speed up the process.
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