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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900

    The reason the club has not been sold is that Duchatelet wants too much money and no one will pay it. That's all there is to it. Everything else is noise.

    maybe we could just delete every other comment apart from above and close thread ...whilst its stating the bloomin obvious it would save us the pain
  • micks1950
    micks1950 Posts: 943

    The reason the club has not been sold is that Duchatelet wants too much money and no one will pay it. That's all there is to it. Everything else is noise.

    If that's true then the club isn't just lying about the Aussies needing to provide documents to the EFL but also that the Aussies and the on-off' 'mystery' 2nd bidder have both 'agreed a price' with Duchatelet?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144

    WSS said:
    Interesting, I can't see the EFL intervening on the bonuses issue, but they won't like being used in this way if it's untrue
    And furthermore I would think that to reveal the status of the ODT of a buyer must be a breach of the relevant NDA with the buyer. If the statement is untrue, the club's behaviour beggars belief.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,617

    WSS said:
    the club telling lies.............surely not.

    I think @Henry Irving needs to change his " WIOTOS".
    If I had £1 for everytime someone has misunderstood WIOTOS I could buy Charlton myself
    Twice then.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    The reason the club has not been sold is that Duchatelet wants too much money and no one will pay it. That's all there is to it. Everything else is noise.

    This is most likely true. By May 18th the price was agreed, although ‘a couple of backers had to sign off on it’. Perhaps these backers were the more realistic ones, and maybe they’ve reduced the offer and are waiting for RD to agree to their revised offer.

    Roland, enraged, is doing anything in his power to attract a higher bid, hence all the cuts, alongside allowing Bowyer to try to get in one or two players.

    So it’s a wait and see. Hopefully, if this scenario is true, Roland will crack, accepting a loss (yippee!), and the Aussies will have more to invest in moving the club forwards, as the upfront cost will have been reduced.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098

    I take it then that nothing will happen until the Shitweasel has an epiphany resulting in his re-engaging with reality and dropping the ridiculous asking price for what is now a husk of a once prestigious club that is currently losing money hand over fist due to his disastrous stewardship.

    Shan't be holding my breath, in that case.....

    So, we are where we have always been under this greedy, incompetent, deluded Shitweasel of an owner.....screwed. His arrogance and pride mean that he is unlikely to budge, he'll just make the club suffer even more to punish us all for HIS failure.

    Absolutely depressing and utterly predictable.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144

    @Airman Brown as far as you know, is your source different to that of @Addickted ? If so, then it is absolute dynamite.

    Yes.
    So are you therefore of the understanding that in fact the Aussies cleared the ODT several weeks ago? ( that's what the other source told @Addickted )

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,898
    lolwray said:

    The reason the club has not been sold is that Duchatelet wants too much money and no one will pay it. That's all there is to it. Everything else is noise.

    maybe we could just delete every other comment apart from above and close thread ...whilst its stating the bloomin obvious it would save us the pain
    Allied that to the fact that nobody knows how much he is asking for the club we might as well delete Airman's comment. He's probably right but its no more fact than anything else.
  • DOUCHER said:

    lolwray said:

    The reason the club has not been sold is that Duchatelet wants too much money and no one will pay it. That's all there is to it. Everything else is noise.

    maybe we could just delete every other comment apart from above and close thread ...whilst its stating the bloomin obvious it would save us the pain
    Allied that to the fact that nobody knows how much he is asking for the club we might as well delete Airman's comment. He's probably right but its no more fact than anything else.
    Do you not know Doucher?
  • I cannot think of any other club that has gone through what we have in the last 4 years!!! The Arsenal fans moaning about Wenger, Newcastle fans moaning about Mike Ashley .....nothing in comparison to us!
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  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    Saying it’s not true isn’t enough we need to know the actual truth too
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734

    @Airman Brown as far as you know, is your source different to that of @Addickted ? If so, then it is absolute dynamite.

    Yes.
    So are you therefore of the understanding that in fact the Aussies cleared the ODT several weeks ago? ( that's what the other source told @Addickted )

    They have not said there is a current problem with the ODT.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144

    I cannot think of any other club that has gone through what we have in the last 4 years!!! The Arsenal fans moaning about Wenger, Newcastle fans moaning about Mike Ashley .....nothing in comparison to us!

    In fairness I still think Blackpool is worse. But we now are clear second. That is how Blackpool see us - as well as being the most resolute campaigners.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    razil said:

    Saying it’s not true isn’t enough we need to know the actual truth too

    We do but they won’t have the full picture, which is why they want to meet the club. I am quite confident now there is a gap between what the Aussies are wiling to pay and what he wants.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    pressure is building from a number of angles, staff, EFL, media, ROT, tomorrow's protest. Just hope we are entering the end game.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144

    razil said:

    Saying it’s not true isn’t enough we need to know the actual truth too

    We do but they won’t have the full picture, which is why they want to meet the club. I am quite confident now there is a gap between what the Aussies are wiling to pay and what he wants.
    The Aussies, and any other serious buyer on the planet, I would say.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376

    razil said:

    Saying it’s not true isn’t enough we need to know the actual truth too

    We do but they won’t have the full picture, which is why they want to meet the club. I am quite confident now there is a gap between what the Aussies are wiling to pay and what he wants.
    What, if anything, can the EFL do about that though?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    Scoham said:

    razil said:

    Saying it’s not true isn’t enough we need to know the actual truth too

    We do but they won’t have the full picture, which is why they want to meet the club. I am quite confident now there is a gap between what the Aussies are wiling to pay and what he wants.
    What, if anything, can the EFL do about that though?
    Nothing but they can’t allow the current level of disarray either.
  • bromdog
    bromdog Posts: 131

    pressure is building from a number of angles, staff, EFL, media, ROT, tomorrow's protest. Just hope we are entering the end game.

    I think I've seen this line many times on this thread!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376

    Scoham said:

    razil said:

    Saying it’s not true isn’t enough we need to know the actual truth too

    We do but they won’t have the full picture, which is why they want to meet the club. I am quite confident now there is a gap between what the Aussies are wiling to pay and what he wants.
    What, if anything, can the EFL do about that though?
    Nothing but they can’t allow the current level of disarray either.
    And what about the mystery second party? Can the EFL confirm if they actually exist?
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  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418

    pressure is building from a number of angles, staff, EFL, media, ROT, tomorrow's protest. Just hope we are entering the end game.

    Not forgetting hotel stayen gets regularly fully booked. ;)
  • If we want to independently get in touch with the EFL to register our concerns does anyone have best contact details ? Perhaps a few dozen e mails or letters might tweak their interest particularly as this is now getting quite a lot of media coverage.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041

    razil said:

    Saying it’s not true isn’t enough we need to know the actual truth too

    We do but they won’t have the full picture, which is why they want to meet the club. I am quite confident now there is a gap between what the Aussies are wiling to pay and what he wants.
    Needs a concrete statement rejecting the club’s assertion without room for interpretation/wriggle room
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,104

    pressure is building from a number of angles, staff, EFL, media, ROT, tomorrow's protest. Just hope we are entering the end game.

    I wouldn’t hold your breath ...
  • Mal
    Mal Posts: 616
    I am all for the Staff and the bonus payment, would striking tomorrow put more pressure on them - or cost Douchbag more?
  • cafc83
    cafc83 Posts: 212
    It does seem like things are coming to a head this week, with each additional development increasing the pressure on Duchatelet. He now has the national media, the EFL, the fans, the club staff and political adversaries (both foreign in ROT, and domestic in local MP and councilors) on his case.

    If the EFL has no current issues with the Aussie documents (two separate sources confirming as much now) then the club is lying when it states that the Aussies are still to submit documents to the EFL, or at the very list obfuscating.

    As others have said, this smacks of Duchatelet holding out for every penny he can get but not wanting to admit that openly, with it being far easier to blame the 'Aussies' for the delay than himself. To do so would be a tacit admission of failure and desperation on his part, and the guy is so egocentric and obdurate when it comes to his own self worth and intelligence that he would avoid that at all costs.

    My worry is that he is quite capable of letting this continue on for a good while yet, regardless of the damage to the club in the interim. He simply does not care about the club in all of this, the people, the fans, none of it. Just his bank balance.
  • cafc83 said:

    It does seem like things are coming to a head this week, with each additional development increasing the pressure on Duchatelet. He now has the national media, the EFL, the fans, the club staff and political adversaries (both foreign in ROT, and domestic in local MP and councilors) on his case.

    If the EFL has no current issues with the Aussie documents (two separate sources confirming as much now) then the club is lying when it states that the Aussies are still to submit documents to the EFL, or at the very list obfuscating.

    As others have said, this smacks of Duchatelet holding out for every penny he can get but not wanting to admit that openly, with it being far easier to blame the 'Aussies' for the delay than himself. To do so would be a tacit admission of failure and desperation on his part, and the guy is so egocentric and obdurate when it comes to his own self worth and intelligence that he would avoid that at all costs.

    My worry is that he is quite capable of letting this continue on for a good while yet, regardless of the damage to the club in the interim. He simply does not care about the club in all of this, the people, the fans, none of it. Just his bank balance.

    I posted above. If the club is lying then why havn’t the Aussies called him out on it ? My guess is because that statement is agreed by both parties. We really need to find out why.

  • Scoham said:

    razil said:

    Saying it’s not true isn’t enough we need to know the actual truth too

    We do but they won’t have the full picture, which is why they want to meet the club. I am quite confident now there is a gap between what the Aussies are wiling to pay and what he wants.
    What, if anything, can the EFL do about that though?
    Nothing but they can’t allow the current level of disarray either.
    I’m sure they could come up with a “bringing the game into disrepute” charge if the club was deliberately lying about the EFLs position in this.

    They won’t, but I’m sure it’s possible.
  • cafc83 said:

    It does seem like things are coming to a head this week, with each additional development increasing the pressure on Duchatelet. He now has the national media, the EFL, the fans, the club staff and political adversaries (both foreign in ROT, and domestic in local MP and councilors) on his case.

    If the EFL has no current issues with the Aussie documents (two separate sources confirming as much now) then the club is lying when it states that the Aussies are still to submit documents to the EFL, or at the very list obfuscating.

    As others have said, this smacks of Duchatelet holding out for every penny he can get but not wanting to admit that openly, with it being far easier to blame the 'Aussies' for the delay than himself. To do so would be a tacit admission of failure and desperation on his part, and the guy is so egocentric and obdurate when it comes to his own self worth and intelligence that he would avoid that at all costs.

    My worry is that he is quite capable of letting this continue on for a good while yet, regardless of the damage to the club in the interim. He simply does not care about the club in all of this, the people, the fans, none of it. Just his bank balance.

    I posted above. If the club is lying then why havn’t the Aussies called him out on it ? My guess is because that statement is agreed by both parties. We really need to find out why.

    More likely that there is an NDA in place stopping the Aussies making any statement that is not signed off by RD.
  • cafc83
    cafc83 Posts: 212

    cafc83 said:

    It does seem like things are coming to a head this week, with each additional development increasing the pressure on Duchatelet. He now has the national media, the EFL, the fans, the club staff and political adversaries (both foreign in ROT, and domestic in local MP and councilors) on his case.

    If the EFL has no current issues with the Aussie documents (two separate sources confirming as much now) then the club is lying when it states that the Aussies are still to submit documents to the EFL, or at the very list obfuscating.

    As others have said, this smacks of Duchatelet holding out for every penny he can get but not wanting to admit that openly, with it being far easier to blame the 'Aussies' for the delay than himself. To do so would be a tacit admission of failure and desperation on his part, and the guy is so egocentric and obdurate when it comes to his own self worth and intelligence that he would avoid that at all costs.

    My worry is that he is quite capable of letting this continue on for a good while yet, regardless of the damage to the club in the interim. He simply does not care about the club in all of this, the people, the fans, none of it. Just his bank balance.

    I posted above. If the club is lying then why havn’t the Aussies called him out on it ? My guess is because that statement is agreed by both parties. We really need to find out why.

    Well we know via JamesSeed that there is a NDA in place, but that does not explain why the club can say something but the Aussies cannot as it would cover the actions of bother parties. So I think you could well be right with what you say above. If that is so, then this make no sense at all.
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