Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
Mate did they contact them pre aussies I am sure it was
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
Didn’t Airman say that these loans don’t need to be settled before someone buys the club? I know clean title sounds nice, but is it essential? Just asking, haven’t got an axe to grind.
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
Mate did they contact them pre aussies I am sure it was
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
Mate did they contact them pre aussies I am sure it was
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
Didn’t Airman say that these loans don’t need to be settled before someone buys the club? I know clean title sounds nice, but is it essential? Just asking, haven’t got an axe to grind.
That’s the buyers decision, depends if they want clear title or not. I would it’s still £7mn more on the purchase price, whether in Prem or now. If I want to finance the purchase then definitely want those charges paid off, and it’s Roland’s problem not the buyers.
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
You come across as very aggressive. That’s me done.
I do not think the British group includes MA, I do not think LDT is lying about that when denying it.
He also stated about non disclosure, I think what he ment by that is he has obviously signed it, and can't really directly tell us anything, which is why we always seem to get puzzle pieces and speculate so much.
I think there is two interesting points made during the interview
1. (about how the Aussies need to explain why it has taken so long etc) 2. The British group finding 6th gear.
A fellow poster imo was spot on, you don't come out publicly and say that, especially if you've signed a nda.
I think that was a dig to try and get the AA to hurry up and finalise, or for a group we know nothing about to hurry up and finalise the deal before the American do.
I actually think this British group could be the coy.
Especially as there is pretty much zero information on them. (all ive ever heard is "the British group" name one member from this group which we know is actually involved?
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
You come across as very aggressive. That’s me done.
I'm not sure how you have seen any aggresssion from DS's post?
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
You come across as very aggressive. That’s me done.
Don't you think your post was a bit curt, before you asked the question mate?
Considering the amount of posturing on this thread, I find DS's, along with RedHenry's contributions, the most informative and unbiased, I'm not looking for smiley faces, just what they know.
Can someone ask Lieven tonight just 4 questions 1. Why are you persisting with Australians after 1 year of no deal. 2. What price does Roland want 3. How many buyers have proven funds and cleared EFL? 4. How many buyers are still negotiating
I just e mailed them to the the Trust Secretary for you (as they requested).
Well that is most kind I thank you, let’s see if he has decent answers 🤨
There is no British bid. There is only the Aussies.
There is a British Bid and they are one of three buyers who approached Ex Directors, Aussies never approached them, so Who is real?
Were they one of the groups who offered to buy out the ex-directors loans at a heavy discount?
No Roland made the low ball bid. My guess is they told him they wanted loans cleared as did the others. Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
You’re being far to cryptic for me I’m afraid. Are you saying there is no Australian consortium currently in the running ? It won’t hurt you to stop talking in riddles.
No what I’m saying is The Ex Directors have no idea if Aussies exist as they have never been in touch while 3 other parties including Brits have. Is that clear enough ?
Didn’t Airman say that these loans don’t need to be settled before someone buys the club? I know clean title sounds nice, but is it essential? Just asking, haven’t got an axe to grind.
If they are borrowing against any assets they will.
It is time for clarity on what the price is. I appreciate it might vary depending on the agreed purchase terms, but we could be given an idea what the price actually is if somebody handed over the money today. It is no good getting fed rubbish about a sale being imminent. It is becoming clear that hands are trying to be forced, and people are being played. Let us know that the price is reasonable you dishonest Belgian w****r!
Is there any reason why the interested parties wont go a bit more public? Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day, but just to release a small statement to say something along the lines of 'we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon'. At least the fans would know there is something going on
Is there any reason why the interested parties wont go a bit more public? Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day, but just to release a small statement to say something along the lines of 'we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon'. At least the fans would know there is something going on
The scarves were just an honest expression of their enthusiasm for the project, (days from what they thought was the completion). Muir also wanted to meet Charlton fans and get a sense of the atmosphere. Obviously they won’t do that again until the sale if it happens.
If they released a statement saying ‘we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon' they’d be widely ridiculed, unfortunately.
I'm beginning to see this 'contest' between the Aussies and the Brits like two cricketers playing the straightest of bats.
You've got Bill Lawry for the Aussies and Geoff Boycott for the Brits. Neither is prepared to take a chance and each is trying to bore the other into submission. Something has to give, but its best not to hold your breath.
I'm beginning to see this 'contest' between the Aussies and the Brits like two cricketers playing the straightest of bats.
You've got Bill Lawry for the Aussies and Geoff Boycott for the Brits. Neither is prepared to take a chance and each is trying to bore the other into submission. Something has to give, but its best not to hold your breath.
Is there any reason why the interested parties wont go a bit more public? Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day, but just to release a small statement to say something along the lines of 'we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon'. At least the fans would know there is something going on
The scarves were just an honest expression of their enthusiasm for the project, (days from what they thought was the completion). Muir also wanted to meet Charlton fans and get a sense of the atmosphere. Obviously they won’t do that again until the sale if it happens.
If they released a statement saying ‘we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon' they’d be widely ridiculed, unfortunately.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t really.
I always thought they were put off by the two shrews games!
That’s it, I’m getting to the end of my tether with all these shanigans going around and upsetting the fans. And I’m goodnight to do something positive to being this all to an abrupt end. On Friday I’m going to invest £2 on the European lottery and when I win I’ll either pay off the difference the asking price and the realistic price AND the x-directors loans. Or bribe RDto sell immediately to Whoever is on position to take hold of the Reins and keep the change. Anybody else going to join in and spread the chances?
Is there any reason why the interested parties wont go a bit more public? Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day, but just to release a small statement to say something along the lines of 'we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon'. At least the fans would know there is something going on
The scarves were just an honest expression of their enthusiasm for the project, (days from what they THOUGHT was the completion). Muir also wanted to meet Charlton fans and get a sense of the atmosphere. Obviously they won’t do that again until the sale if it happens.
If they released a statement saying ‘we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon' they’d be widely ridiculed, unfortunately.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t really.
I'd politely disagree James. I know that, to some extent, you're personally attached with the Australian bid, and the work you've done in the respect of keeping us updated as best you can has been commendable; however, their display at The Valley was nothing short of arrogant in my opinion.
To parade yourselves so publicly (one could argue that it was narcissistic), in the obvious knowledge that it would do nothing less than create excitement (even understandable hysteria?) amongst the fan base, was misguided at best, but frankly, contemptible (sadly, since mirrored by Jim White).
Thinking they were at/near completion isn't completion is it, and at that stage in the dealings, anyone with a modicum of foresight and acumen would have known that when you deal with an egomaniac like Duchatelet, nothing is certain.
I'm sure that since they made that massive faux pas, the reason they've been so publicly inconspicuous is because of their embarrassment, knowing that they made a massive error of judgement.
I'm beginning to see this 'contest' between the Aussies and the Brits like two cricketers playing the straightest of bats.
You've got Bill Lawry for the Aussies and Geoff Boycott for the Brits. Neither is prepared to take a chance and each is trying to bore the other into submission. Something has to give, but its best not to hold your breath.
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I've thought for a while that they are a figment of Roland's imagination.
It's actually Laura Ashley who want to buy us. Next year's kit will be seriously retro
Aussies? Who knows what they wanted, did they get that far?
That’s the buyers decision, depends if they want clear title or not.
I would it’s still £7mn more on the purchase price, whether in Prem or now.
If I want to finance the purchase then definitely want those charges paid off, and it’s Roland’s problem not the buyers.
I do not think the British group includes MA, I do not think LDT is lying about that when denying it.
He also stated about non disclosure, I think what he ment by that is he has obviously signed it, and can't really directly tell us anything, which is why we always seem to get puzzle pieces and speculate so much.
I think there is two interesting points made during the interview
1. (about how the Aussies need to explain why it has taken so long etc)
2. The British group finding 6th gear.
A fellow poster imo was spot on, you don't come out publicly and say that, especially if you've signed a nda.
I think that was a dig to try and get the AA to hurry up and finalise, or for a group we know nothing about to hurry up and finalise the deal before the American do.
I actually think this British group could be the coy.
Especially as there is pretty much zero information on them. (all ive ever heard is "the British group" name one member from this group which we know is actually involved?
Only speculating.
Considering the amount of posturing on this thread, I find DS's, along with RedHenry's contributions, the most informative and unbiased, I'm not looking for smiley faces, just what they know.
Muir also wanted to meet Charlton fans and get a sense of the atmosphere. Obviously they won’t do that again until the sale if it happens.
If they released a statement saying ‘we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon' they’d be widely ridiculed, unfortunately.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t really.
You've got Bill Lawry for the Aussies and Geoff Boycott for the Brits. Neither is prepared to take a chance and each is trying to bore the other into submission. Something has to give, but its best not to hold your breath.
To parade yourselves so publicly (one could argue that it was narcissistic), in the obvious knowledge that it would do nothing less than create excitement (even understandable hysteria?) amongst the fan base, was misguided at best, but frankly, contemptible (sadly, since mirrored by Jim White).
Thinking they were at/near completion isn't completion is it, and at that stage in the dealings, anyone with a modicum of foresight and acumen would have known that when you deal with an egomaniac like Duchatelet, nothing is certain.
I'm sure that since they made that massive faux pas, the reason they've been so publicly inconspicuous is because of their embarrassment, knowing that they made a massive error of judgement.