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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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This is a takeover thread. Can we take the rest of the stuff to another thread ? There’s a Lee Bowyer thread sitting there.19
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Maybe miracle worker is hyperbole but I would like to see Lee Bowyer attempt to keep Charlton up when underdogs in matches and not favourites0
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I'd like to see him try to take us up against the odds. He strikes me as an against the odds type of manager. The odds can't be as ridiculous as Roland is keen to make them though - he has to have half a chance!2
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ShootersHillGuru said:This is a takeover thread. Can we take the rest of the stuff to another thread ? There’s a Lee Bowyer thread sitting there.0
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Exiled_Addick said:cafcfan1990 said:Exiled_Addick said:Bedsaddick said:I know it's been said an million times before, but what an absolute shambles. The job Bowyer has done... for the single season performance he's just had - well... it's got to be up there with anything Seed, Lawrence, Curbs, or Powell ever achieved... the best managers this club has ever know.Winning promotion on a shoe string.Playing good quality football the likes of which we didn't really see even under Powell and only a few times under CurbsTurning supporter apathy in August into one of the largest, noisiest, most united turnouts ever by our supporters at Wembley 9 months later.I mean, I honestly don't know what more he could have done. Yet here we are, at the 11th hour, and things are merely "beginning to move in the right direction". And it's not even as if it appears a difficult deal to do - Bowyer really, truly wants to stay FFS!It beggars belief, it really does.
We didn’t pay a fee for anyone but let’s be honest we still had a very good squad for the third tier. Don’t get me wrong, he done an outstanding job but all we did was win promotion from the third tier. Of course we need to keep him but I think his achievements are slightly exaggerated, mostly because of the shit over the last few years.Tell me a single, standalone season where any of those mangers achieved significantly more than Bowyer did last year in less favourable circumstances?Who ever got promoted without a good squad? Powell and Curbs certainly had very good squads. And lets not forget who assembled that very good squad and who identified and attracted those players despite having no money for fees. Curbs and Powell were both backed in the transfer market during their most successful years to an extent Bowyer can only dream of.Lennie Lawrence is the main comparison for me, getting us up despite the turmoil of the leaving the Valley. Ok, it was a division higher, but promotion is promotion.What Bowyer has done this year is 100% comparable with some of the best managerial achievements to happen at Charlton. I don't think it's at all an exaggeration to say that.
It's slightly disingenuous to suggest Curbs was backed. That 98 squad took a long time to build and £700k on Mendonca was backing but not in the realm of what other clubs could do, more significantly neither were wages.
Bowyer joins a group of excellent managers, all of whom have achieved their promotions on relative shoestrings.
It's ludicrous he hasn't been given a suitable contract. Let's hope this thread dies for the right reason as soon as possible and get his future tied down.13 -
Lee Bowyer is not the best manager we have ever had. He's the best manager we have; and he's a better manager than anyone else we could get at this time. He could become the best manager we have ever had; but only if we keep him. We would cope without him; but we wouldn't do as well with anyone else.
To compare him, as a manager, with Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or even Powell is utterly ridiculous and serves no point. However, it is worth pointing out that, unlike Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or Powell, he could still become Charlton's greatest-ever manager.
Retaining him is the second-most important, second-most urgent task right now.
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soapboxsam said:killerandflash said:Yes Bowyer did a superb job. But it is important to get it in perspective, in L1 even under Roland we were still a big fish.
The Championship is a massive step up though, without a takeover 4th bottom will be a great achievement
Roachdale and Scunny may be minnows but needed to be battered for us to take our Plaice in the fry-offs.
Roeland Is a basket case and only Parker from the Gills was added in the window.
For Lee Bowyer to hook the big whopper Sarr at HT after his bait pass went in the net took courage.
Now back to the sole of Charlton.2 -
rikofold said:soapboxsam said:killerandflash said:Yes Bowyer did a superb job. But it is important to get it in perspective, in L1 even under Roland we were still a big fish.
The Championship is a massive step up though, without a takeover 4th bottom will be a great achievement
Roachdale and Scunny may be minnows but needed to be battered for us to take our Plaice in the fry-offs.
Roeland Is a basket case and only Parker from the Gills was added in the window.
For Lee Bowyer to hook the big whopper Sarr at HT after his bait pass went in the net took courage.
Now back to the sole of Charlton.
The world is my Oyster2 -
Chizz said:Lee Bowyer is not the best manager we have ever had. He's the best manager we have; and he's a better manager than anyone else we could get at this time. He could become the best manager we have ever had; but only if we keep him. We would cope without him; but we wouldn't do as well with anyone else.
To compare him, as a manager, with Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or even Powell is utterly ridiculous and serves no point. However, it is worth pointing out that, unlike Seed, Lawrence, Curbishley or Powell, he could still become Charlton's greatest-ever manager.
Retaining him is the second-most important, second-most urgent task right now.2 -
rikofold said:Exiled_Addick said:cafcfan1990 said:Exiled_Addick said:Bedsaddick said:I know it's been said an million times before, but what an absolute shambles. The job Bowyer has done... for the single season performance he's just had - well... it's got to be up there with anything Seed, Lawrence, Curbs, or Powell ever achieved... the best managers this club has ever know.Winning promotion on a shoe string.Playing good quality football the likes of which we didn't really see even under Powell and only a few times under CurbsTurning supporter apathy in August into one of the largest, noisiest, most united turnouts ever by our supporters at Wembley 9 months later.I mean, I honestly don't know what more he could have done. Yet here we are, at the 11th hour, and things are merely "beginning to move in the right direction". And it's not even as if it appears a difficult deal to do - Bowyer really, truly wants to stay FFS!It beggars belief, it really does.
We didn’t pay a fee for anyone but let’s be honest we still had a very good squad for the third tier. Don’t get me wrong, he done an outstanding job but all we did was win promotion from the third tier. Of course we need to keep him but I think his achievements are slightly exaggerated, mostly because of the shit over the last few years.Tell me a single, standalone season where any of those mangers achieved significantly more than Bowyer did last year in less favourable circumstances?Who ever got promoted without a good squad? Powell and Curbs certainly had very good squads. And lets not forget who assembled that very good squad and who identified and attracted those players despite having no money for fees. Curbs and Powell were both backed in the transfer market during their most successful years to an extent Bowyer can only dream of.Lennie Lawrence is the main comparison for me, getting us up despite the turmoil of the leaving the Valley. Ok, it was a division higher, but promotion is promotion.What Bowyer has done this year is 100% comparable with some of the best managerial achievements to happen at Charlton. I don't think it's at all an exaggeration to say that.
It's slightly disingenuous to suggest Curbs was backed. That 98 squad took a long time to build and £700k on Mendonca was backing but not in the realm of what other clubs could do, more significantly neither were wages.
Bowyer joins a group of excellent managers, all of whom have achieved their promotions on relative shoestrings.
It's ludicrous he hasn't been given a suitable contract. Let's hope this thread dies for the right reason as soon as possible and get his future tied down.3 - Sponsored links:
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Sorry to break in to the Lee discussion, but any takeover news?6
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Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!!
PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!2 -
Won't here anything over the weekend.2
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john3 said:Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!!
PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
Breaking News:
"Cliff Richard sacks Lee Bowyer"
Stranger things have happened 😉1 -
Valley27000 said:Won't here anything over the weekend.
Hear.
I despair.
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Dave2l said:john3 said:Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!!
PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
Breaking News:
"Cliff Richard sacks Lee Bowyer"
Stranger things have happened 😉13 -
There is a Bowyer thread people.3
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ElfsborgAddick said:Dave2l said:john3 said:Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!!
PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
Breaking News:
"Cliff Richard sacks Lee Bowyer"
Stranger things have happened 😉5 -
1741, War of Jenkins' Ear, Britain invades Cuba.1
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Chizz said:1
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Dave2l said:john3 said:Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!!
PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
Breaking News:
"Cliff Richard sacks Lee Bowyer"
Stranger things have happened 😉0 -
PopIcon said:Chizz said:4
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charltonman2016 said:0
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PopIcon said:Chizz said:
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Chizz said:PopIcon said:Chizz said:
As you were.2 -
john3 said:Any actual news on the purchase of the club wether Dalman, Aussies,Mike Ashley,Boris Johnson,Lord Lucan,a mysterious man on a train to Brighton,the EU, UKIP, Thane,X Men, Mickey Mouse,Trump,Cliff Richard,Tiger Woods,something from Mars!!!!!
PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEE!!!!!!
You forgot Wang Flasher3
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