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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited June 2019

    With all this takeover is immanent again bollox I wondered to myself when the next fans forum is.......??  tomorrow I hear you cry - now there's a surprise.

    Yes, because Dalman and the Aussies have the fans’ forum at the top of their agenda and managing the room is a massive priority for Duchatelet, the masterful media strategist. Or perhaps not...

  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    PaddyP17 said:
    Stig said:
    Fair play Paddy, for having the patience to go through all that lot.
    Did you see how patient I was then? Did you?
    Careful now or you'll be accused of Russell Slade-ism ;-)
    I reckon Paddy's come back for a 1-1 draw
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Sage said:
    Will the real @JamesSeed please stand up? I repeat, will the real @JamesSeed please stand up? We’re gonna have a problem here...

    I only wish he could.
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,767
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
  • Taxi_Lad said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    But how can you then tell that investor, just say for example, when Charlton get promoted to the Premier League, and the consortium sells for an enormous profit: "Sorry, but we didn't use any of your money, so you get none of the profits."?
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,767
    Assuming that the website is still live and investment is still open 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited June 2019
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    I asked about that a few weeks ago, and it's nothing to do with current financing, it's potentially for future financing opportunities, further down the line. I believe Sunderland have just accepted new investment, for example. How it works exactly, I have no idea. Not ‘aggressively’ seeking backing though. 

    Also, as has been mentioned, GM is the man behind the consortium, but he's not an investor as far as I'm aware. Never asked tbh, but always assumed not. He does all the negotiating.
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  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,767
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    No way is It Murphy’s baby he is just the frontman of a poor band   
     I can tell you it is.
    if it is we are in more trouble than ever because on the supermarket scale of money he is lidl at best 

    i would be shocked  if you are right there 
    Could be way off bream here but by “Murphys baby” I take that to mean that it’s his idea. His plan. His blueprint to make it work. That’s a long way from saying it’s his money although no doubt he would invest what he could afford. 

    Also never quite understood why any investor after having read the prospectus in which it states “to elevate the club to the EPL” would not think that the aim was going to be costly and not achievable without a serious financial commitment. Anything less than a serious financial commitment would be like flushing your money down the pan. Certainly Muir is a serious businessman and won’t have been hoodwinked by anyone to think that achieving the goals can be done on the cheap regardless of how good your business plan is. I’m assuming that other money people are equally as astute.
    is that what you meant ? 🙂
  • GreenWithEnvy
    GreenWithEnvy Posts: 1,841
    Fawaz Al-Hawasi... well in many respects I am glad he never came that close to buying us from Roland. With the Forest fans hating him and now this story about him taking their 1959 FA Cup trophy as his own personal possession:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/25/nottingham-forest-demand-former-owner-return-replica-of-1959-fa-cup-fawaz-al-hasawi

    So many bat-sh!t crazy people involved in football, I hope we get Dalman, someone who seems to understand the game and what is required to succeed.
  • It is possible to get an even worse owner than RD.....
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    It is possible to get an even worse owner than RD.....
    I'd like to say no, but then I guess we could have had the Oyston's. He stitched them right up.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    It is possible to get an even worse owner than RD.....
    Sadly much worse

    RD might have massively misguided views on how to run football clubs, but we've always been solvent  and he's never plundered us in the way some owners like the Oystons have
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    Dazzler21 said:
    It is possible to get an even worse owner than RD.....
    I'd like to say no, but then I guess we could have had the Oyston's. He stitched them right up.
    SISU as well. At least Roland for all his faults hasn't managed to leave us homeless.

    As bad as RD is there are certainly worse out there.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675
    Nothing good to say about Roland. 
    A total Shitweasel 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Nothing good to say about Roland. 
    A total Shitweasel 
    Lovely teeth in fairness
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  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1797, Horatio Nelson loses his right arm at the battle of Santa Cruz.
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    I wonder what sort of update there will be at the FF tomorrow.

    a. this is seriously close now and will likely be concluded within a week or 2

    b. usual, there are 3 interested buyers and we are still negotiating with them, proce agreed with 1, 2 in DD blah blah blah

    c. depressing message about little progress.

    or something else ?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675
    Fcuk all is going to happen. 
    Please please prove me wrong 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    I wonder what sort of update there will be at the FF tomorrow.

    a. this is seriously close now and will likely be concluded within a week or 2

    b. usual, there are 3 interested buyers and we are still negotiating with them, proce agreed with 1, 2 in DD blah blah blah

    c. depressing message about little progress.

    or something else ?
    Definitely think it will be B) and they are still talking to the Aussies / waiting for paperwork
  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    edited June 2019
    JamesSeed said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    I asked about that a few weeks ago, and it's nothing to do with current financing, it's potentially for future financing opportunities, further down the line. I believe Sunderland have just accepted new investment, for example. How it works exactly, I have no idea. Not ‘aggressively’ seeking backing though. 

    Also, as has been mentioned, GM is the man behind the consortium, but he's not an investor as far as I'm aware. Never asked tbh, but always assumed not. He does all the negotiating.
    May I politely suggest he's probably in the wrong job then James! He didn't go to the 'Theresa May School of Negotiation Techniques' did he?  ;)
  • Taxi_Lad said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence



    Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with it and wants shot
  • Dazzler21 said:
    It is possible to get an even worse owner than RD.....
    I'd like to say no, but then I guess we could have had the Oyston's. He stitched them right up.
    Don't forger, the Oyston who actually signed Blackpool, before giving them to his son, did time for rape...
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037

    With all this takeover is immanent again bollox I wondered to myself when the next fans forum is.......??  tomorrow I hear you cry - now there's a surprise.

    Season tickets to shift.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited June 2019
    JamesSeed said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    I asked about that a few weeks ago, and it's nothing to do with current financing, it's potentially for future financing opportunities, further down the line. I believe Sunderland have just accepted new investment, for example. How it works exactly, I have no idea. Not ‘aggressively’ seeking backing though. 

    Also, as has been mentioned, GM is the man behind the consortium, but he's not an investor as far as I'm aware. Never asked tbh, but always assumed not. He does all the negotiating.
    May I politely suggest he's probably in the wrong job then James! He didn't go to the 'Theresa May School of Negotiation Techniques' did he?  ;)
    Must have done ;-)

    I wonder if any other ‘interested parties’ have come in, looked at the books, and offered £15m or £20m over the last couple of years, which imo is what the club is really worth. I suggest there might have been quite a few. Roland has clearly been holding out for an unrealistic amount for some time. Hence his claims that ‘they don’t have the money’ overheard by one of his coaches. No one ‘had the money’ Roland, because they’re not stark staring bonkers. 
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    I asked about that a few weeks ago, and it's nothing to do with current financing, it's potentially for future financing opportunities, further down the line. I believe Sunderland have just accepted new investment, for example. How it works exactly, I have no idea. Not ‘aggressively’ seeking backing though. 

    Also, as has been mentioned, GM is the man behind the consortium, but he's not an investor as far as I'm aware. Never asked tbh, but always assumed not. He does all the negotiating.
    May I politely suggest he's probably in the wrong job then James! He didn't go to the 'Theresa May School of Negotiation Techniques' did he?  ;)
    Must have done ;-)

    If he had then the deal would have been concluded straight away with the Australian consortium agreeing to everything Roly demanded including a carriage pulled by kangaroos.
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