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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    nth london addick said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence



    Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
    I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Ferryman said:
    nth london addick said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence



    Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
    I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
    I think maybe that is for SCMT protocols in League One. In FFP, which applies in The Championship, it purely looks backwards.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    NapaAddick said:
    Ferryman said:
    nth london addick said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence



    Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
    I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
    I think maybe that is for SCMT protocols in League One. In FFP, which applies in The Championship, it purely looks backwards.
    It’s a requirement for buying a club isn’t it? Separate from FFP/SCMT?
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    so... no news on any of our incoming signings and still no confirmation on aribo. and takeover close rumours... what's going on? anything? could our targets change once a deal is done? could we have a chance of retaining aribo? ir are we delaying the announcement of aribo until say oztumer is wrapped up ?  
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Scoham said:
    NapaAddick said:
    Ferryman said:
    nth london addick said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence



    Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
    I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
    I think maybe that is for SCMT protocols in League One. In FFP, which applies in The Championship, it purely looks backwards.
    It’s a requirement for buying a club isn’t it? Separate from FFP/SCMT?
    Rings a bell. Could not find it online but I think you may be right.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,786
    Dave2l said:
    Rob said:
    Dave2l said:
    Is Richard Murrary stopping the club from getting sold?

    I know Roland comes out with some absolute waffle...and almost everything he says and does is utterly ridiculous.

    I'm starting to believe Murrary is playing a much bigger part in this.

    Quite possibly the biggest snake of them all.

    I fear he is stopping the club from being sold.

    His behaviour absolutely stinks.

    The lies.

    The tactical words....the quietness.

    What has he done to the club????
    What motive would he have?
    The blokes a snake.

    I know he sabotaged Peter Varney's investment approach 3/4 years ago.

    It all kind of adds up to be honest.

    His behaviour has been very very odd throughout the last 5+ years.

    The deflection of blame and responsibility - RM is good at it.  
    But, what does he gain by doing it? That’s what I’m not quite getting. 
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,766
    nth london addick said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence



    Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with it and wants shot
    Thanks NLA

    but the coach of one of RDs other clubs being close to negotiations on the sale of CAFC ???  Sounds as implausible as a group of businessmen proceeding to purchase a football club which they can’t afford to run!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    It is possible to get an even worse owner than RD.....
    Yes. The hedge fund manager at Coventry,
    or the dreaded Father and son at Blackpool until recently. Only two out of 90 though !
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    happyvalley said:
    1797, Horatio Nelson loses his right arm at the battle of Santa Cruz.
    Serious question from the soapbox ?

    Why didn't Horatio take off his Red Jacket  in combat ?  He was a sitting target.
    The opposition were given a bonus to hit the great sailor.

    Bizarre.


  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    blackpool72 said:
    Fcuk all is going to happen. 
    Please please prove me wrong 
    So you're saying Stephen Marks is buying us?
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    soapboxsam said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    It is possible to get an even worse owner than RD.....
    Yes. The hedge fund manager at Coventry,
    or the dreaded Father and son at Blackpool until recently. Only two out of 90 though !
    Wasn't it father and daughter?
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Dazzler21 said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Fcuk all is going to happen. 
    Please please prove me wrong 
    So you're saying Stephen Marks is buying us?
    More likely to be Frank Spencer.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Taxi_Lad said:
    nth london addick said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence



    Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with it and wants shot
    Thanks NLA

    but the coach of one of RDs other clubs being close to negotiations on the sale of CAFC ???  Sounds as implausible as a group of businessmen proceeding to purchase a football club which they can’t afford to run!
    Can't see the point in questioning the source, when NLA has been pretty much on the money at every turn, along with Doucher, despite the criticism they've faced
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    edited June 2019
    Can anyone explain the following?

    The Aussies arrived on the scene in April 2017.

    Some time later RD & the Aussies made a joint statement on the O/S saying a price had been agreed & the price agreement has been repeated numerous times.

    The price was alleged to have been around £65M and other offers in excess of £33M have been turned away.

    The Aussies filed papers with the EFL and turned up at last seasons play offs wearing scarves. 

    Yet another year later it is suggested they had & still have the funds to proceed, but the price has mysteriously halved to what was agreed and yet they still haven't done the deal at half the agreed price and are possibly arguing over a £7M figure. 
  • jac52
    jac52 Posts: 636
    Ferryman said:
    nth london addick said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence



    Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
    I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
    Makes me wonder if that's why RD keeps going on about low running costs being important to selling. Doesn't bode well.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Covered End said:
    Can anyone explain the following?
    The Aussies arrived on the scene in April 2017. Their website at the time said they had £33M to buy a club.

    Some time later RD & the Aussies made a joint statement on the O/S saying a price had been agreed & this has been repeated numerous times.

    The price was alleged to have been around £65M and other offers have been turned away.

    The Aussies filed papers with the EFL and turned up at last seasons play offs wearing scarves. 

    Yet another year later it is suggested they had & still have the funds to proceed, but the price has mysteriously halved to what was agreed and yet they still haven't done thr deal at half the agreed price and are possibly arguing over a £7M figure. 
      Don't remember £33m being stated anywhere. 
     They were still looking for capital when I spoke to them and that was long after they first came on the scene. Late Summer 2017 I think.
    £5m would have got you a seat at the table back then.
      The ownership structure they had come up with was always going to create problems.
     A couple of £5-10 m investees walk away because they don't like the sound of something and they're scratching around again. Would have been a bloody nightmare had they managed to buy the club first!

     Although they sounded like a nice bunch, the whole Aussie thing sounded like another bloody experiment.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210

  • Ultimatum
    Ultimatum Posts: 317
    BR7_addick said:

    Quite like that he takes the time to reply to me (I’m sure he would anyone else). His hopes of it not happening seem to be dwindling away
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    So price for the club agreed I’m assuming? 

    Debating Loans and whole payment/staggered payments I’m guessing.

    Feels like that shouldn’t be too much of an issue but at this point I don’t even know.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Ultimatum said:
    BR7_addick said:

    Quite like that he takes the time to reply to me (I’m sure he would anyone else). His hopes of it not happening seem to be dwindling away
    He’s replied to myself that’s why I follow him, he sounds less confident than he did a couple of weeks ago.
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  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1798, The Marine Police Force is formed to prevent theft from London's docks.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Laddick01 said:
    So price for the club agreed I’m assuming? 

    Debating Loans and whole payment/staggered payments I’m guessing.

    Feels like that shouldn’t be too much of an issue but at this point I don’t even know.
    13th June the Welsh journalist sent a message to someone from the forum that shall not be named.

    "Issues over taking over debt and something to do with training ground are complicating it.".

    I assume that RD wants some of the money owed to him left as debt. What could the issue around the training ground be?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited June 2019
    Already been posted but as recently as 6 May the Aussies were still looking for investors to join them.

    https://wholesaleinvestor.com.au/australian-football-consortium-in-the-running-to-buy-english-league-one-team-charlton-athletic/
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Taxi_Lad said:
    nth london addick said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    @nth london addick
    as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
    As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
    Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed 
    They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.

    I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
    Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence



    Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with it and wants shot
    Thanks NLA

    but the coach of one of RDs other clubs being close to negotiations on the sale of CAFC ???  Sounds as implausible as a group of businessmen proceeding to purchase a football club which they can’t afford. 




    Yet his information was 100% correct if you recall that I said they had no money in the back drop of imminent and job done 


    was it imminent or job done 

    nope 


    have they bought us nope 

    why do you think that is because the info was implausible or correct 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Didn’t like the use of the term “stumbling block”. Last time we heard that Lameiras pissed off to Portugal.
  • charltonman2016
    charltonman2016 Posts: 1,118
    BR7_addick said:
    Ultimatum said:
    BR7_addick said:

    Quite like that he takes the time to reply to me (I’m sure he would anyone else). His hopes of it not happening seem to be dwindling away
    He’s replied to myself that’s why I follow him, he sounds less confident than he did a couple of weeks ago.
    Doesn't sound nowhere near as confident as he was recently 
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,722
    Scoham said:
    Laddick01 said:
    So price for the club agreed I’m assuming? 

    Debating Loans and whole payment/staggered payments I’m guessing.

    Feels like that shouldn’t be too much of an issue but at this point I don’t even know.
    13th June the Welsh journalist sent a message to someone from the forum that shall not be named.

    "Issues over taking over debt and something to do with training ground are complicating it.".

    I assume that RD wants some of the money owed to him left as debt. What could the issue around the training ground be?

    Perhaps he thinks he can hold on to the training ground?
  • Ultimatum
    Ultimatum Posts: 317
    BR7_addick said:
    Ultimatum said:
    BR7_addick said:

    Quite like that he takes the time to reply to me (I’m sure he would anyone else). His hopes of it not happening seem to be dwindling away
    He’s replied to myself that’s why I follow him, he sounds less confident than he did a couple of weeks ago.
    He seems like a genuinely nice bloke 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    Scoham said:
    Already been posted but as recently as 6 May the Aussies were still looking for investors to join them.

    https://wholesaleinvestor.com.au/australian-football-consortium-in-the-running-to-buy-english-league-one-team-charlton-athletic/
    Thanks Scoham. They are the only business I have ever known, that continuously try to raise capital that they don't require. 
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Scoham said:
    Already been posted but as recently as 6 May the Aussies were still looking for investors to join them.

    https://wholesaleinvestor.com.au/australian-football-consortium-in-the-running-to-buy-english-league-one-team-charlton-athletic/
    Gobsmacked! This is not even up there in the same realms as Dragon's Den ffs  
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