@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
I asked about that a few weeks ago, and it's nothing to do with current financing, it's potentially for future financing opportunities, further down the line. I believe Sunderland have just accepted new investment, for example. How it works exactly, I have no idea. Not ‘aggressively’ seeking backing though.
Also, as has been mentioned, GM is the man behind the consortium, but he's not an investor as far as I'm aware. Never asked tbh, but always assumed not. He does all the negotiating.
May I politely suggest he's probably in the wrong job then James! He didn't go to the 'Theresa May School of Negotiation Techniques' did he?
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence
Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with it and wants shot
With all this takeover is immanent again bollox I wondered to myself when the next fans forum is.......?? tomorrow I hear you cry - now there's a surprise.
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
I asked about that a few weeks ago, and it's nothing to do with current financing, it's potentially for future financing opportunities, further down the line. I believe Sunderland have just accepted new investment, for example. How it works exactly, I have no idea. Not ‘aggressively’ seeking backing though.
Also, as has been mentioned, GM is the man behind the consortium, but he's not an investor as far as I'm aware. Never asked tbh, but always assumed not. He does all the negotiating.
May I politely suggest he's probably in the wrong job then James! He didn't go to the 'Theresa May School of Negotiation Techniques' did he?
Must have done ;-)
I wonder if any other ‘interested parties’ have come in, looked at the books, and offered £15m or £20m over the last couple of years, which imo is what the club is really worth. I suggest there might have been quite a few. Roland has clearly been holding out for an unrealistic amount for some time. Hence his claims that ‘they don’t have the money’ overheard by one of his coaches. No one ‘had the money’ Roland, because they’re not stark staring bonkers.
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
I asked about that a few weeks ago, and it's nothing to do with current financing, it's potentially for future financing opportunities, further down the line. I believe Sunderland have just accepted new investment, for example. How it works exactly, I have no idea. Not ‘aggressively’ seeking backing though.
Also, as has been mentioned, GM is the man behind the consortium, but he's not an investor as far as I'm aware. Never asked tbh, but always assumed not. He does all the negotiating.
May I politely suggest he's probably in the wrong job then James! He didn't go to the 'Theresa May School of Negotiation Techniques' did he?
Must have done ;-)
If he had then the deal would have been concluded straight away with the Australian consortium agreeing to everything Roly demanded including a carriage pulled by kangaroos.
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence
Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence
Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
I think maybe that is for SCMT protocols in League One. In FFP, which applies in The Championship, it purely looks backwards.
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence
Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
I think maybe that is for SCMT protocols in League One. In FFP, which applies in The Championship, it purely looks backwards.
It’s a requirement for buying a club isn’t it? Separate from FFP/SCMT?
so... no news on any of our incoming signings and still no confirmation on aribo. and takeover close rumours... what's going on? anything? could our targets change once a deal is done? could we have a chance of retaining aribo? ir are we delaying the announcement of aribo until say oztumer is wrapped up ?
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence
Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
I think maybe that is for SCMT protocols in League One. In FFP, which applies in The Championship, it purely looks backwards.
It’s a requirement for buying a club isn’t it? Separate from FFP/SCMT?
Rings a bell. Could not find it online but I think you may be right.
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence
Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with it and wants shot
Thanks NLA
but the coach of one of RDs other clubs being close to negotiations on the sale of CAFC ??? Sounds as implausible as a group of businessmen proceeding to purchase a football club which they can’t afford to run!
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence
Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with it and wants shot
Thanks NLA
but the coach of one of RDs other clubs being close to negotiations on the sale of CAFC ??? Sounds as implausible as a group of businessmen proceeding to purchase a football club which they can’t afford to run!
Can't see the point in questioning the source, when NLA has been pretty much on the money at every turn, along with Doucher, despite the criticism they've faced
Some time later RD & the Aussies made a joint statement on the O/S saying a price had been agreed & the price agreement has been repeated numerous times.
The price was alleged to have been around £65M and other offers in excess of £33M have been turned away.
The Aussies filed papers with the EFL and turned up at last seasons play offs wearing scarves.
Yet another year later it is suggested they had & still have the funds to proceed, but the price has mysteriously halved to what was agreed and yet they still haven't done the deal at half the agreed price and are possibly arguing over a £7M figure.
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence
Many moons ago i put out on here my source, was from within the RD camp itself and was proven right as its been 2 yrs gone and over 15 months since i first put out they have no money . My very good pal is a coach at one of RD's clubs and was present to conversations, I was also told by people here that the Aussie bid had not raised the required funds. The concrete you are searching for is that they still dont have the money to fund the losses the club makes. however they may have now found the money to purchase the club, this imo is due to the price being greatly reduced as RD is now fed up with
I think the EFL want proof of funds for two years running costs (losses?).
Makes me wonder if that's why RD keeps going on about low running costs being important to selling. Doesn't bode well.
Can anyone explain the following? The Aussies arrived on the scene in April 2017. Their website at the time said they had £33M to buy a club.
Some time later RD & the Aussies made a joint statement on the O/S saying a price had been agreed & this has been repeated numerous times.
The price was alleged to have been around £65M and other offers have been turned away.
The Aussies filed papers with the EFL and turned up at last seasons play offs wearing scarves.
Yet another year later it is suggested they had & still have the funds to proceed, but the price has mysteriously halved to what was agreed and yet they still haven't done thr deal at half the agreed price and are possibly arguing over a £7M figure.
Don't remember £33m being stated anywhere. They were still looking for capital when I spoke to them and that was long after they first came on the scene. Late Summer 2017 I think. £5m would have got you a seat at the table back then. The ownership structure they had come up with was always going to create problems. A couple of £5-10 m investees walk away because they don't like the sound of something and they're scratching around again. Would have been a bloody nightmare had they managed to buy the club first!
Although they sounded like a nice bunch, the whole Aussie thing sounded like another bloody experiment.
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a. this is seriously close now and will likely be concluded within a week or 2
b. usual, there are 3 interested buyers and we are still negotiating with them, proce agreed with 1, 2 in DD blah blah blah
c. depressing message about little progress.
or something else ?
Please please prove me wrong
I wonder if any other ‘interested parties’ have come in, looked at the books, and offered £15m or £20m over the last couple of years, which imo is what the club is really worth. I suggest there might have been quite a few. Roland has clearly been holding out for an unrealistic amount for some time. Hence his claims that ‘they don’t have the money’ overheard by one of his coaches. No one ‘had the money’ Roland, because they’re not stark staring bonkers.
If he had then the deal would have been concluded straight away with the Australian consortium agreeing to everything Roly demanded including a carriage pulled by kangaroos.
but the coach of one of RDs other clubs being close to negotiations on the sale of CAFC ??? Sounds as implausible as a group of businessmen proceeding to purchase a football club which they can’t afford to run!
or the dreaded Father and son at Blackpool until recently. Only two out of 90 though !
Why didn't Horatio take off his Red Jacket in combat ? He was a sitting target.
The opposition were given a bonus to hit the great sailor.
Bizarre.
The Aussies arrived on the scene in April 2017.
Some time later RD & the Aussies made a joint statement on the O/S saying a price had been agreed & the price agreement has been repeated numerous times.
The price was alleged to have been around £65M and other offers in excess of £33M have been turned away.
The Aussies filed papers with the EFL and turned up at last seasons play offs wearing scarves.
Yet another year later it is suggested they had & still have the funds to proceed, but the price has mysteriously halved to what was agreed and yet they still haven't done the deal at half the agreed price and are possibly arguing over a £7M figure.
They were still looking for capital when I spoke to them and that was long after they first came on the scene. Late Summer 2017 I think.
£5m would have got you a seat at the table back then.
The ownership structure they had come up with was always going to create problems.
A couple of £5-10 m investees walk away because they don't like the sound of something and they're scratching around again. Would have been a bloody nightmare had they managed to buy the club first!
Although they sounded like a nice bunch, the whole Aussie thing sounded like another bloody experiment.
Debating Loans and whole payment/staggered payments I’m guessing.
Feels like that shouldn’t be too much of an issue but at this point I don’t even know.