No way is It Murphy’s baby he is just the frontman of a poor band
I can tell you it is.
if it is we are in more trouble than ever because on the supermarket scale of money he is lidl at best
i would be shocked if you are right there
I think we may be getting some wires crossed here. When I said it is his baby I mean that he was on board from conception and he has and I'm guessing still is having a big say on the strategy of the project. He told me as much when I spoke to him. For that reason, as I said to HI, he would have first hand knowledge of those that have committed financially, the money available and the prices being asked to pay.
At no point did I say he was the one with the financial clout.
No way is It Murphy’s baby he is just the frontman of a poor band
I can tell you it is.
if it is we are in more trouble than ever because on the supermarket scale of money he is lidl at best
i would be shocked if you are right there
Could be way off beam here but by “Murphys baby” I take that to mean that it’s his idea. His plan. His blueprint to make it work. That’s a long way from saying it’s his money although no doubt he would invest what he could afford.
Also never quite understood why any investor after having read the prospectus in which it states “to elevate the club to the EPL” would not think that the aim was going to be costly and not achievable without a serious financial commitment. Anything less than a serious financial commitment would be like flushing your money down the pan. Certainly Muir is a serious businessman and won’t have been hoodwinked by anyone to think that achieving the goals can be done on the cheap regardless of how good your business plan is. I’m assuming that other money people are equally as astute.
No way is It Murphy’s baby he is just the frontman of a poor band
I can tell you it is.
if it is we are in more trouble than ever because on the supermarket scale of money he is lidl at best
i would be shocked if you are right there
I think we may be getting some wires crossed here. When I said it is his baby I mean that he was on board from conception and he has and I'm guessing still is having a big say on the strategy of the project. He told me as much when I spoke to him. For that reason, as I said to HI, he would have first hand knowledge of those that have committed financially, the money available and the prices being asked to pay.
At no point did I say he was the one with the financial clout.
Apologies in that context he is without A doubt as you describe
If I had sent my wife out to buy Charlton she would have had it done and dusted in a day - she wouldn't be able to afford it and probably wouldn't have looked at the price tag, but that has never stopped her in the past ......
With all this takeover is immanent again bollox I wondered to myself when the next fans forum is.......?? tomorrow I hear you cry - now there's a surprise.
With all this takeover is immanent again bollox I wondered to myself when the next fans forum is.......?? tomorrow I hear you cry - now there's a surprise.
Yes, because Dalman and the Aussies have the fans’ forum at the top of their agenda and managing the room is a massive priority for Duchatelet, the masterful media strategist. Or perhaps not...
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
But how can you then tell that investor, just say for example, when Charlton get promoted to the Premier League, and the consortium sells for an enormous profit: "Sorry, but we didn't use any of your money, so you get none of the profits."?
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
I asked about that a few weeks ago, and it's nothing to do with current financing, it's potentially for future financing opportunities, further down the line. I believe Sunderland have just accepted new investment, for example. How it works exactly, I have no idea. Not ‘aggressively’ seeking backing though.
Also, as has been mentioned, GM is the man behind the consortium, but he's not an investor as far as I'm aware. Never asked tbh, but always assumed not. He does all the negotiating.
@nth london addick as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
As I said earlier, their website touting for investors is a decent clue.
Is it though?? If that’s all he’s got to go on, that’s flaky at best. You can never have too much money. It’s certainly not an indicator that they haven’t got enough to proceed
They were also aggressively looking for investors after initially filing EFL paperwork, once again suggesting funds were not in place.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Which is why I asked NLA. He has been so adamant I assume he has some concrete evidence
No way is It Murphy’s baby he is just the frontman of a poor band
I can tell you it is.
if it is we are in more trouble than ever because on the supermarket scale of money he is lidl at best
i would be shocked if you are right there
Could be way off bream here but by “Murphys baby” I take that to mean that it’s his idea. His plan. His blueprint to make it work. That’s a long way from saying it’s his money although no doubt he would invest what he could afford.
Also never quite understood why any investor after having read the prospectus in which it states “to elevate the club to the EPL” would not think that the aim was going to be costly and not achievable without a serious financial commitment. Anything less than a serious financial commitment would be like flushing your money down the pan. Certainly Muir is a serious businessman and won’t have been hoodwinked by anyone to think that achieving the goals can be done on the cheap regardless of how good your business plan is. I’m assuming that other money people are equally as astute.
Fawaz Al-Hawasi... well in many respects I am glad he never came that close to buying us from Roland. With the Forest fans hating him and now this story about him taking their 1959 FA Cup trophy as his own personal possession:
It is possible to get an even worse owner than RD.....
Sadly much worse
RD might have massively misguided views on how to run football clubs, but we've always been solvent and he's never plundered us in the way some owners like the Oystons have
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When I said it is his baby I mean that he was on board from conception and he has and I'm guessing still is having a big say on the strategy of the project. He told me as much when I spoke to him.
For that reason, as I said to HI, he would have first hand knowledge of those that have committed financially, the money available and the prices being asked to pay.
At no point did I say he was the one with the financial clout.
Also never quite understood why any investor after having read the prospectus in which it states “to elevate the club to the EPL” would not think that the aim was going to be costly and not achievable without a serious financial commitment. Anything less than a serious financial commitment would be like flushing your money down the pan. Certainly Muir is a serious businessman and won’t have been hoodwinked by anyone to think that achieving the goals can be done on the cheap regardless of how good your business plan is. I’m assuming that other money people are equally as astute.
"It's easy to become a millionaire as an owner of a football club..."
"You have to start as a billionaire, though!"
Apologies in that context he is without A doubt as you describe
as a perennial dismisser of the Aussies financial abilities, could you kindly explain why and how you are so sure? Ta
With all this takeover is immanent again bollox I wondered to myself when the next fans forum is.......?? tomorrow I hear you cry - now there's a surprise.
I only wish he could.
I have no idea of NLAs sources but I very much doubt he'd just make stuff up for a laugh.
Also, as has been mentioned, GM is the man behind the consortium, but he's not an investor as far as I'm aware. Never asked tbh, but always assumed not. He does all the negotiating.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/25/nottingham-forest-demand-former-owner-return-replica-of-1959-fa-cup-fawaz-al-hasawi
So many bat-sh!t crazy people involved in football, I hope we get Dalman, someone who seems to understand the game and what is required to succeed.
RD might have massively misguided views on how to run football clubs, but we've always been solvent and he's never plundered us in the way some owners like the Oystons have
As bad as RD is there are certainly worse out there.
A total Shitweasel