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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Wonder if the lack of signings is a self inflicted transfer embargo due to how close (for once) the takeover actually is?
Still find it weird that Aribo hasn't been confirmed3 -
Cawley an hour ago: “Don't believe the Dalman interest ever went away. But equally don't think it is close as things stand.”0
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!covered end junior said:Cawley an hour ago: “Don't believe the Dalman interest ever went away. But equally don't think it is close as things stand.”0 -
covered end junior said:Cawley an hour ago: “Don't believe the Dalman interest ever went away. But equally don't think it is close as things stand.”
This is my personal opinion on it
i think something will happen before the season starts but certainly not convinced it will be Dalman0 -
Man City, eh?Uboat said:
Roland had a shit system therefore systems are shit? Man City have got a system, so that's one all.Wheresmeticket? said:
That's exactly what I mean....not again...i_b_b_o_r_g said:
RD had a "system" all worked out, remember?Wheresmeticket? said:"Based on a Deloitte Feasibility study, AFC will incorporate the best global sports management and science practices. AFC also plans to create a world-class training facility at the training ground to develop young talent.
The Australian Football Consortium is currently raising capital. Register your interest at the button below."
Oh god. They have a system all worked out. oh god oh god oh god.
I believe that their system was based on having shitloads of money and throwing it around the transfer market?0 -
It was £33m, and RD was supposed to have given clean title, ie settled the directors’ loans. As you know he failed massively to do that, and then told the Aussies to do it. Hence the £7m increase. I’m not sure why they want clean title. Never asked.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back
Agree the directors should otherwise get their money back once in Prem.0 -
Personal opinion alert ... I think the Aussies want clean title because they want to fund the 'process' against the assets. They might have the £33m purchase price but they haven't got the resources to fund a sustained promotion push to the PL.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back6 -
1905 said:Battle of trafalgar and Waterloo around the corner.
Millwall and Portsmouth?14 -
Not actually certain the FF is going ahead tonight, has anyone else heard anything?0
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this with bells on_MrDick said:
Personal opinion alert ... I think the Aussies want clean title because they want to fund the 'process' against the assets. They might have the £33m purchase price but they haven't got the resources to fund a sustained promotion push to the PL.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back4 -
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Correct. A successful system.Wheresmeticket? said:
Man City, eh?Uboat said:
Roland had a shit system therefore systems are shit? Man City have got a system, so that's one all.Wheresmeticket? said:
That's exactly what I mean....not again...i_b_b_o_r_g said:
RD had a "system" all worked out, remember?Wheresmeticket? said:"Based on a Deloitte Feasibility study, AFC will incorporate the best global sports management and science practices. AFC also plans to create a world-class training facility at the training ground to develop young talent.
The Australian Football Consortium is currently raising capital. Register your interest at the button below."
Oh god. They have a system all worked out. oh god oh god oh god.
I believe that their system was based on having shitloads of money and throwing it around the transfer market?1 -
Is that because of the weather or a sex thing?ElfsborgAddick said:5 -
so, from your knowledge, at some stage in this process there was an agreed price of £26m to buy the club and it’s assets from Roland, plus another £7m needed to secure complete clear title by settling the directors loans?JamesSeed said:
It was £33m, and RD was supposed to have given clean title, ie settled the directors’ loans. As you know he failed massively to do that, and then told the Aussies to do it. Hence the £7m increase. I’m not sure why they want clean title. Never asked.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back
Agree the directors should otherwise get their money back once in Prem.
No offence intended but I struggle to accept that was correct JS if that is what you’ve been told. It is the complete opposite of suggestions RD is being greedy, difficult, and if that was true then why the hell did they not proceed and complete before the ambiguity of the play off final.
There is is no way it has taken RD over two years to sell the club if he is looking for a personal return of just £26m imo4 -
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Roland probably would have sold the club 1799 pages ago if it wasn’t for this thread...2 -
That may not be the case. I said something along those lines to GM and he replied overnight saying it’s a post purchase strategy, and ‘Again I point to the key investors profile’._MrDick said:
Personal opinion alert ... I think the Aussies want clean title because they want to fund the 'process' against the assets. They might have the £33m purchase price but they haven't got the resources to fund a sustained promotion push to the PL.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back
Sounds complicated, but Muir, the Indian cricket guy, and perhaps the American, are all minted. But I think it’s a bit mysterious.0 -
No, £33m plus £7m making it £40m.AFKABartram said:
so, from your knowledge, at some stage in this process there was an agreed price of £26m to buy the club and it’s assets from Roland, plus another £7m needed to secure complete clear title by settling the directors loans?JamesSeed said:
It was £33m, and RD was supposed to have given clean title, ie settled the directors’ loans. As you know he failed massively to do that, and then told the Aussies to do it. Hence the £7m increase. I’m not sure why they want clean title. Never asked.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back
Agree the directors should otherwise get their money back once in Prem.
No offence intended but I struggle to accept that was correct JS if that is what you’ve been told. It is the complete opposite of suggestions RD is being greedy, difficult, and if that was true then why the hell did they not proceed and complete before the ambiguity of the play off final.
There is is no way it has taken RD over two years to sell the club if he is looking for a personal return of just £26m imo
The £7m was added after the playoff final. Despite agreement not to.
The price was reduced because he finally realised he wasn’t going to get what he wanted for the club.1 -
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AFKABartram said:
so, from your knowledge, at some stage in this process there was an agreed price of £26m to buy the club and it’s assets from Roland, plus another £7m needed to secure complete clear title by settling the directors loans?JamesSeed said:
It was £33m, and RD was supposed to have given clean title, ie settled the directors’ loans. As you know he failed massively to do that, and then told the Aussies to do it. Hence the £7m increase. I’m not sure why they want clean title. Never asked.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back
Agree the directors should otherwise get their money back once in Prem.
No offence intended but I struggle to accept that was correct JS if that is what you’ve been told. It is the complete opposite of suggestions RD is being greedy, difficult, and if that was true then why the hell did they not proceed and complete before the ambiguity of the play off final.
There is is no way it has taken RD over two years to sell the club if he is looking for a personal return of just £26m imo
I was personally in a room where 50 mil was touted and involved in a follow up call with the person who was asked to instigate the initial approach where proof of 45-50 mil was the going price to start the ball rolling
so i have no idea where jimmy has got 26 mil from my personal belief was always we would be sold for 30-35 mil plus the directors loans being settled by the new incumbents
i believe this is still the case3 -
LDT, not a reliable source, has stated that there were different agreed prices and pricing structures for different parties.
And that's just agreed prices.
Initial quotes have said to have reached £72m (Airman Brown). So NLA's £50/£45m and JS's £33m can all be correct.
We know Duchatelet is irrational and inconsistent.
We know Duchatelet has offered the club for sale for £1 with a separate cost on the Valley and Sparrows Lane based on house prices in Kensington.
With Duchatelet, any price, any structure has been possible at one time or another.
Duchatelet is not consistent, rational or competent.
Duchatelet is the problem.16 -
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Where do you get £26m from?nth london addick said:AFKABartram said:
so, from your knowledge, at some stage in this process there was an agreed price of £26m to buy the club and it’s assets from Roland, plus another £7m needed to secure complete clear title by settling the directors loans?JamesSeed said:
It was £33m, and RD was supposed to have given clean title, ie settled the directors’ loans. As you know he failed massively to do that, and then told the Aussies to do it. Hence the £7m increase. I’m not sure why they want clean title. Never asked.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back
Agree the directors should otherwise get their money back once in Prem.
No offence intended but I struggle to accept that was correct JS if that is what you’ve been told. It is the complete opposite of suggestions RD is being greedy, difficult, and if that was true then why the hell did they not proceed and complete before the ambiguity of the play off final.
There is is no way it has taken RD over two years to sell the club if he is looking for a personal return of just £26m imo
I was personally in a room where 50 mil was touted and involved in a follow up call with the person who was asked to instigate the initial approach where proof of 45-50 mil was the going price to start the ball rolling
so i have no idea where jimmy has got 26 mil from my personal belief was always we would be sold for 30-35 mil plus the directors loans being settled by the new incumbents
i believe this is still the case
I said £33m plus loans = £40m. Been saying the same since after playoff final. Quite a few times.
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James, you said the original price was £33m with RD to sort loans so people are deducting £7M to get £26M net.JamesSeed said:
Where do you get £26m from?nth london addick said:AFKABartram said:
so, from your knowledge, at some stage in this process there was an agreed price of £26m to buy the club and it’s assets from Roland, plus another £7m needed to secure complete clear title by settling the directors loans?JamesSeed said:
It was £33m, and RD was supposed to have given clean title, ie settled the directors’ loans. As you know he failed massively to do that, and then told the Aussies to do it. Hence the £7m increase. I’m not sure why they want clean title. Never asked.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back
Agree the directors should otherwise get their money back once in Prem.
No offence intended but I struggle to accept that was correct JS if that is what you’ve been told. It is the complete opposite of suggestions RD is being greedy, difficult, and if that was true then why the hell did they not proceed and complete before the ambiguity of the play off final.
There is is no way it has taken RD over two years to sell the club if he is looking for a personal return of just £26m imo
I was personally in a room where 50 mil was touted and involved in a follow up call with the person who was asked to instigate the initial approach where proof of 45-50 mil was the going price to start the ball rolling
so i have no idea where jimmy has got 26 mil from my personal belief was always we would be sold for 30-35 mil plus the directors loans being settled by the new incumbents
i believe this is still the case
I said £33m plus loans = £40m. Been saying the same since after playoff final. Quite a few times.3 -
If we have to suffer another season under RD, thank God we’ve got Lee Bowyer, JJ and Gallen all under contract. I think Lee pulled off a miracle last season, and although I don’t doubt it will be ten times harder this season, I have faith he’ll do what needs to be done.
I only know what I read on here re: the Aussies, but IF, their financial situation is so precarious, and I mean IF, then as crazy as this may sound, I think I’d rather stick it out with RD for the time being. Let me explain my warped thinking, because I don’t say this lightly.
RD has, for all his faults, never stopped paying the bills or to my knowledge, paid anyone late. He’s acted like a total scumbag on numerous occasions and done many wrongs, but the club haven’t flirted with administration as far as I know. I understand he wouldn’t let that happen anyway, because he stands to lose everything should he let that happen.
I also think we’ve reached the point where the set up that exists is somehow the most stable it’s ever going to be, comparatively speaking, under his ownership. We have, by the grace of God, a divine intervention in Bowyer and what he has achieved and what I think he’s capable of, given the circumstances he operates in.
we also know, categorically RD does want to sell. Granted, his original idea of what the club is worth, versus what he wanted was fantasy, but I think as time goes by, reality is kicking in, and he’s aware of the club’s true value.
Giving Lee the contract he wanted was another sign. 12/18 months ago, he would’ve held firm on his insane statement and Karel Frayere would’ve probably been taking training on Friday. He knows that in order to sell the club, he can’t run it like he has been given the success on the pitch over the last year.
I know there’s probably a hundred things and more I don’t know about the Aussie bid, including how difficult RD is to deal with, ex Directors’ loans etc, but, given the Aussies’ interest is over a year old now, regardless of what I pick up on here, I just think that the funds aren’t there to sustain running the club. I may be wrong. If that’s the case given the current circumstances of RD’s reign and the situation we find ourselves in, I think I’d rather opt for this, than risk one/two seasons of Aussie ownership and then possible administration. This is all hypothetical at the moment and I don’t want people to think I’m suddenly an apologist for RD, or that I have forgotten all the wrongs he has done to us and the club. I just mean that the position we find ourselves in now, at this point in time under his ownership, is to an extent, steady(ish).
Putting the old proverbial tin hat on
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That would be me, and that’s what I interpreted “It was £33m, and RD was supposed to have given clean title, ie settled the directors’ loans.“JamesSeed said:
Where do you get £26m from?nth london addick said:AFKABartram said:
so, from your knowledge, at some stage in this process there was an agreed price of £26m to buy the club and it’s assets from Roland, plus another £7m needed to secure complete clear title by settling the directors loans?JamesSeed said:
It was £33m, and RD was supposed to have given clean title, ie settled the directors’ loans. As you know he failed massively to do that, and then told the Aussies to do it. Hence the £7m increase. I’m not sure why they want clean title. Never asked.nth london addick said:JamesSeed said:I posted a few weeks ago that the price was £33m but went up by £7m when we won promotion, despite a promise not to raise it on promotion. I’m not sure if what price Dalman has agreed to.
I an led to believe the price is now 30-33 mil so not sure where the extra 7 come from
the 7 mil is the charges which I don’t see why Roland should settle to be honest I don’t think anyone should
if we ever get back to prem those fine gentleman who saved our club from going into admin deserve every penny back
Agree the directors should otherwise get their money back once in Prem.
No offence intended but I struggle to accept that was correct JS if that is what you’ve been told. It is the complete opposite of suggestions RD is being greedy, difficult, and if that was true then why the hell did they not proceed and complete before the ambiguity of the play off final.
There is is no way it has taken RD over two years to sell the club if he is looking for a personal return of just £26m imo
I was personally in a room where 50 mil was touted and involved in a follow up call with the person who was asked to instigate the initial approach where proof of 45-50 mil was the going price to start the ball rolling
so i have no idea where jimmy has got 26 mil from my personal belief was always we would be sold for 30-35 mil plus the directors loans being settled by the new incumbents
i believe this is still the case
I said £33m plus loans = £40m. Been saying the same since after playoff final. Quite a few times.
so the total cost paid by the Aussies was £33m. Roland would pay out £7m meaning his own return would be £26m. Am i still interpreting that wrong?3 -
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