Could we have the bite size takeover thread back please, it takes so long to find the posts that give any info.
In reality there's very little actual "info" as virtually everything that has happened has gone on behind closed doors, so that what we are hearing varies from guesswork and speculation to uncorroborated news usually leaked by one side.
All interesting, but hardly the gospel
Meaningless comment to be honest, which assumes there is an ultimate objective source of truth when even the official website is a partial source which has been used by the owner to propagate lies.
It’s a messy business partly because of the inconsistency of the parties involved but over the last 21 months a great deal has come out through leaks and contacts, from the identity of interested parties to the fact the process was going on in the first place. The involvement of Andrew Muir, Keith Harris and Mehmet Dalman, for example, have never been confirmed by the club, yet they are all well known. Ditto the ex-directors’ position, the offers on the loans, and the prices quoted.
I doubt that the Tuesday deadline is actually a deadline. More like if it’s not done by then, Duchatelet will open the door to the new bidders to have a run at it. I think it highly unlikely we will hear anything this week.
I predict that tomorrow this thread will be full of tweets from people we've never heard of saying, 'Dalman has walked', 'The Aussies have walked' etc.
I doubt that the Tuesday deadline is actually a deadline. More like if it’s not done by then, Duchatelet will open the door to the new bidders to have a run at it. I think it highly unlikely we will hear anything this week.
I predict that tomorrow this thread will be full of tweets from people we've never heard of saying, 'Dalman has walked', 'The Aussies have walked' etc.
I doubt that the Tuesday deadline is actually a deadline. More like if it’s not done by then, Duchatelet will open the door to the new bidders to have a run at it. I think it highly unlikely we will hear anything this week.
I predict that tomorrow this thread will be full of tweets from people we've never heard of saying, 'Dalman has walked', 'The Aussies have walked' etc.
I agree but " Dalman has run back to Cardiff " and " The Aussies have crawled" would seem more apt as the time the latter have spent stationary.
Could we have the bite size takeover thread back please, it takes so long to find the posts that give any info.
In reality there's very little actual "info" as virtually everything that has happened has gone on behind closed doors, so that what we are hearing varies from guesswork and speculation to uncorroborated news usually leaked by one side.
All interesting, but hardly the gospel
Meaningless comment to be honest, which assumes there is an ultimate objective source of truth when even the official website is a partial source which has been used by the owner to propagate lies.
It’s a messy business partly because of the inconsistency of the parties involved but over the last 21 months a great deal has come out through leaks and contacts, from the identity of interested parties to the fact the process was going on in the first place. The involvement of Andrew Muir, Keith Harris and Mehmet Dalman, for example, have never been confirmed by the club, yet they are all well known. Ditto the ex-directors’ position, the offers on the loans, and the prices quoted.
The whole takeover process will make a very interesting article/book after it's happened and someone can look back and unpick the facts from the froth (and fish puns). It's the difference between traditional news and journalism, and 24 hour news where you're constantly looking for new facts and jumping on any new development that seems important.
In reality the extraordinary thing is how little we know about what's happened in the last 2 years. The members of the Aussie consortium, and why they've got nowhere after 2 years yet are still trying to take over the club. Karl Robinson jumped ship FIFTEEN MONTHS ago as he thought the takeover was about to happen and he would be replaced...
I doubt that the Tuesday deadline is actually a deadline. More like if it’s not done by then, Duchatelet will open the door to the new bidders to have a run at it. I think it highly unlikely we will hear anything this week.
I predict that tomorrow this thread will be full of tweets from people we've never heard of saying, 'Dalman has walked', 'The Aussies have walked' etc.
You're not proper Charlton, unless you have 'walked'taken the train from a takeover
Could we have the bite size takeover thread back please, it takes so long to find the posts that give any info.
In reality there's very little actual "info" as virtually everything that has happened has gone on behind closed doors, so that what we are hearing varies from guesswork and speculation to uncorroborated news usually leaked by one side.
All interesting, but hardly the gospel
Meaningless comment to be honest, which assumes there is an ultimate objective source of truth when even the official website is a partial source which has been used by the owner to propagate lies.
It’s a messy business partly because of the inconsistency of the parties involved but over the last 21 months a great deal has come out through leaks and contacts, from the identity of interested parties to the fact the process was going on in the first place. The involvement of Andrew Muir, Keith Harris and Mehmet Dalman, for example, have never been confirmed by the club, yet they are all well known. Ditto the ex-directors’ position, the offers on the loans, and the prices quoted.
The whole takeover process will make a very interesting article/book after it's happened and someone can look back and unpick the facts from the froth (and fish puns). It's the difference between traditional news and journalism, and 24 hour news where you're constantly looking for new facts and jumping on any new development that seems important.
In reality the extraordinary thing is how little we know about what's happened in the last 2 years. The members of the Aussie consortium, and why they've got nowhere after 2 years yet are still trying to take over the club. Karl Robinson jumped ship FIFTEEN MONTHS ago as he thought the takeover was about to happen and he would be replaced...
All you’re saying there is that the internet allows non-traditional sources to publish information too - there are big articles in mainstream media about the Aussies taking over a year ago and they weren’t sourced on here.
We do know the shape of most of what has gone on and much more than we would have done without the internet, but less than we would if we were based in a one or two club provincial city with better resourced media who were in a stronger position to challenge the club.
Could we have the bite size takeover thread back please, it takes so long to find the posts that give any info.
In reality there's very little actual "info" as virtually everything that has happened has gone on behind closed doors, so that what we are hearing varies from guesswork and speculation to uncorroborated news usually leaked by one side.
All interesting, but hardly the gospel
Meaningless comment to be honest, which assumes there is an ultimate objective source of truth when even the official website is a partial source which has been used by the owner to propagate lies.
It’s a messy business partly because of the inconsistency of the parties involved but over the last 21 months a great deal has come out through leaks and contacts, from the identity of interested parties to the fact the process was going on in the first place. The involvement of Andrew Muir, Keith Harris and Mehmet Dalman, for example, have never been confirmed by the club, yet they are all well known. Ditto the ex-directors’ position, the offers on the loans, and the prices quoted.
The whole takeover process will make a very interesting article/book after it's happened and someone can look back and unpick the facts from the froth (and fish puns). It's the difference between traditional news and journalism, and 24 hour news where you're constantly looking for new facts and jumping on any new development that seems important.
In reality the extraordinary thing is how little we know about what's happened in the last 2 years. The members of the Aussie consortium, and why they've got nowhere after 2 years yet are still trying to take over the club. Karl Robinson jumped ship FIFTEEN MONTHS ago as he thought the takeover was about to happen and he would be replaced...
All you’re saying there is that the internet allows non-traditional sources to publish information too - there are big articles in mainstream media about the Aussies taking over a year ago and they weren’t sourced on here.
We do know the shape of most of what has gone on and much more than we would have done without the internet, but less than we would if we were based in a one or two club provincial city with better resourced media who were in a stronger position to challenge the club.
We are not talking about a takeover by one plc of another plc where there are statutory reporting obligations. A private company being sold to an individual or consortium has no such obligations and consequently rumour, half truths and outright guesses are the order of the day.
Just a quick reminder: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. So, if there are no reports tomorrow of the deal going through, that doesn't mean the deal hasn't gone through. It just means there are no reports of it going through. And that will be down to the NDAs still being in place.
In fact, if there are no reports of the deal going through tomorrow, we should probably take it as confirmation that the deal has gone through.
Unless it's officially denied. In which case we can probably safely assume it's gone through, but the denial is just a smoke screen.
Just a quick reminder: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. So, if there are no reports tomorrow of the deal going through, that doesn't mean the deal hasn't gone through. It just means there are no reports of it going through. And that will be down to the NDAs still being in place.
In fact, if there are no reports of the deal going through tomorrow, we should probably take it as confirmation that the deal has gone through.
Unless it's officially denied. In which case we can probably safely assume it's gone through, but the denial is just a smoke screen.
So we could have actually been taken over weeks ago and just not know it?
Would it just be our luck, and Ironic, after all we have been through with Roland - if all 3 parties in the bidding process were named Not Fit and Proper by the E.F.L.
There is NO TAKEOVER this week. Everyone is picking up on rumours of 1st July and believing it. I am pissed off with the whole thing, Roland. No takeover. Shit rumours. Season finished ages ago. If we were being taken over we would have heard about it by now. It doesn't take this long for it to go through. When was the Aussies at Wembley. May 26th? We are now 1st July FFS. It appears that the wanker is here to stay. If we are SOLD then I will run round Woolwich with my arse in the air. I am resigned to him being here forever. He wants too much money and keeps playing one of the other. FFS pissed off. Now back to the fish puns
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It’s a messy business partly because of the inconsistency of the parties involved but over the last 21 months a great deal has come out through leaks and contacts, from the identity of interested parties to the fact the process was going on in the first place. The involvement of Andrew Muir, Keith Harris and Mehmet Dalman, for example, have never been confirmed by the club, yet they are all well known. Ditto the ex-directors’ position, the offers on the loans, and the prices quoted.
A seat for every post we have now filled The Etihad Stadium.
Next target is The Emirates (60,260)
In reality the extraordinary thing is how little we know about what's happened in the last 2 years. The members of the Aussie consortium, and why they've got nowhere after 2 years yet are still trying to take over the club. Karl Robinson jumped ship FIFTEEN MONTHS ago as he thought the takeover was about to happen and he would be replaced...
We do know the shape of most of what has gone on and much more than we would have done without the internet, but less than we would if we were based in a one or two club provincial city with better resourced media who were in a stronger position to challenge the club.
You guys can certainly talk the hind legs of a Duchebag, are any of you Politicians?
In fact, if there are no reports of the deal going through tomorrow, we should probably take it as confirmation that the deal has gone through.
Unless it's officially denied. In which case we can probably safely assume it's gone through, but the denial is just a smoke screen.
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