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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679

    If The Aussies were at The Valley on Tuesday, as was Muir in the evening, is there a chance that Muir is a front man for The Aussies and McLeish is advising on the playing side of things?

    If there are four interested parties this could become a long, drawn out affair with Roland playing them all off against each other and maybe eventually getting no deal at all. Unless of course one party offers a deal he cannot refuse.

    Even if one party offered what any normal person would call 'a deal he cannot refuse' I believe Roland would think he could get more from one of the others. He's driven by money and power. If there are four interested parties he will be in his element. No takeover this season IMHO.
    Not being funny but I don’t think this is necessary true.

    Do you recall when RD first came onboard our Belgian journo mate (member name “skywalker” or something?) warned us that his motivation goes way beyond money and power. It is more about politics and proving people wrong.
    The only person he has proved wrong is himself.
    Deluded old scrote
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127

    So do we think the Aussies have more money than McLeish?

    @Redhenry 's S-Club party have the serious cash though don't they?

    Ffs, I'm starting to lose track of this now.....
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723

    Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party

    How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127

    If The Aussies were at The Valley on Tuesday, as was Muir in the evening, is there a chance that Muir is a front man for The Aussies and McLeish is advising on the playing side of things?

    If there are four interested parties this could become a long, drawn out affair with Roland playing them all off against each other and maybe eventually getting no deal at all. Unless of course one party offers a deal he cannot refuse.

    Even if one party offered what any normal person would call 'a deal he cannot refuse' I believe Roland would think he could get more from one of the others. He's driven by money and power. If there are four interested parties he will be in his element. No takeover this season IMHO.
    Not being funny but I don’t think this is necessary true.

    Do you recall when RD first came onboard our Belgian journo mate (member name “skywalker” or something?) warned us that his motivation goes way beyond money and power. It is more about politics and proving people wrong.
    In order for Roland to prove someone wrong about his Charlton ownership he's got to be looking for a 4-yr old quote that says "I bet that Roland will be a right good success at Charlton....", any takers? @Swisdom ??
  • Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party

    How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?
    Roland will be rubbing his crusty hands together,a bidding war....
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party

    Is that a good thing ....... will it just add to the uncertainty and cause further delay?



  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,353
    Only at Charlton...
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255

    I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.

    Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.

    My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.

    Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.

    Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.

    This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.

    Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths

    Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.

    Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me

    Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money

    Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Takeover to happen soon or not?.
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    cabbles said:

    I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.

    Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.

    My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.

    Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.

    Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.

    This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.

    Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths

    Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.

    Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me

    Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money

    Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
    Well I was wondering what cafcfan1990 means by plus repayable debt. Personally that phrase could mean anything.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    I hope all the interested parties play hardball and stick to reasonable offers for the club. Surely even old Duche would get the message then? You're not getting your money back.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679

    Takeover to happen soon or not?.

    Not.


    February at the earliest
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885

    Takeover to happen soon or not?.

    Might just as well get yourself one of these mate;
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  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    RedChaser said:

    Takeover to happen soon or not?.

    Might just as well get yourself one of these mate;
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    Need more then that to save us from RD.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    cabbles said:

    I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.

    Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.

    My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.

    Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.

    Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.

    This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.

    Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths

    Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.

    Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me

    Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money

    Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
    Well I was wondering what cafcfan1990 means by plus repayable debt. Personally that phrase could mean anything.
    Agree.

    Personally, I took Cafcfan1990 to mean £22m plus debt, as the 'protected' £7m owed to Murray and former directors.

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    edited January 2018
    Roland hoping for a bidding war but not sure that's going to happen.

    These interested parties will already know how much they're willing to pay for the club and knowing someone else is interested won't push that amount up.

    It's not as if these people are falling over themselves to own something that's losing millions a year. And if they do miss out to a rival bidder, there are plenty of other Football League clubs looking for new ownership.

    Roland mate your bidding war isn't happening, just sell the club.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195

    Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party

    How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?
    Turns out everyone wants to own Charlton.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited January 2018

    Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party

    How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?
    Roland will be rubbing his crusty hands together,a bidding war....
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  • Robinson knows more than he's letting on I suspect.

    If I had a secret KR would be the very last man I would tell ... unless I wanted someone to leak it for me
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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party

    How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?
    Roland will be rubbing his crusty hands together,a bidding war....
    I wouldn't put it past him to get his own new consortium together - and sell the club to himself. :

  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723

    Takeover to happen soon or not?.

    Not.


    February at the earliest
    I would class February as “soon”
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679

    Takeover to happen soon or not?.

    Not.


    February at the earliest
    I would class February as “soon”
    But the transfer window will be shut.
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723
    edited January 2018

    Takeover to happen soon or not?.

    Not.


    February at the earliest
    I would class February as “soon”
    But the transfer window will be shut.
    I know but to be honest I’ve written off this season already.

    All that matters now is that the old codger f@cks off and never goes anywhere near my beloved Charlton again.
  • Takeover to happen soon or not?.

    Not.


    February at the earliest
    I would class February as “soon”
    But the transfer window will be shut.
    But we will have all of our injured players back so it will look like a new team! laughing to myself
  • Can I throw my hat in the ring and declare I’m interested? Just need to find some rich backers now.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846

    Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party

    Shush - I was hoping to keep that secret.

  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    Uboat said:

    Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party

    How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?
    Turns out everyone wants to own Charlton.
    Don't be ridiculous, we have been told by the other side that there were no buyers out there and we should support roli or never come back.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360

    Takeover to happen soon or not?.

    Not.


    February at the earliest
    I would class February as “soon”
    But the transfer window will be shut.
    I know but to be honest I’ve written off this season already.

    All that matters now is that the old codger f@cks off and never goes anywhere near my beloved Charlton again.
    That’s my mindset too, as much as I’m dissappointed by how this season has turned out, I’m happy to write it off if the takeover happens.
  • cabbles said:

    I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.

    Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.

    My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.

    Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.

    Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.

    This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.

    Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths

    Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.

    Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me

    Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money

    Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
    How much are the Valley and SL worth do we guesstimate?

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