If The Aussies were at The Valley on Tuesday, as was Muir in the evening, is there a chance that Muir is a front man for The Aussies and McLeish is advising on the playing side of things?
If there are four interested parties this could become a long, drawn out affair with Roland playing them all off against each other and maybe eventually getting no deal at all. Unless of course one party offers a deal he cannot refuse.
Even if one party offered what any normal person would call 'a deal he cannot refuse' I believe Roland would think he could get more from one of the others. He's driven by money and power. If there are four interested parties he will be in his element. No takeover this season IMHO.
Not being funny but I don’t think this is necessary true.
Do you recall when RD first came onboard our Belgian journo mate (member name “skywalker” or something?) warned us that his motivation goes way beyond money and power. It is more about politics and proving people wrong.
The only person he has proved wrong is himself. Deluded old scrote
If The Aussies were at The Valley on Tuesday, as was Muir in the evening, is there a chance that Muir is a front man for The Aussies and McLeish is advising on the playing side of things?
If there are four interested parties this could become a long, drawn out affair with Roland playing them all off against each other and maybe eventually getting no deal at all. Unless of course one party offers a deal he cannot refuse.
Even if one party offered what any normal person would call 'a deal he cannot refuse' I believe Roland would think he could get more from one of the others. He's driven by money and power. If there are four interested parties he will be in his element. No takeover this season IMHO.
Not being funny but I don’t think this is necessary true.
Do you recall when RD first came onboard our Belgian journo mate (member name “skywalker” or something?) warned us that his motivation goes way beyond money and power. It is more about politics and proving people wrong.
In order for Roland to prove someone wrong about his Charlton ownership he's got to be looking for a 4-yr old quote that says "I bet that Roland will be a right good success at Charlton....", any takers? @Swisdom ??
I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.
Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.
My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.
Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.
Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.
This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.
Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths
Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.
Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me
Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money
Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
Should we be nervous about the potential incumbents? Here is how I see it. There's a scene in The Office, where Tim Canterbury is contemplating his future prospects and whether he should quit his job and go for a better one. He says,
I just think, well, I dunno, if you look at life like rolling a dice, then my situation now, as it stands, yeah, it may only be a three. If I jack that in now, go for something bigger and better, yeah, I could easily roll a six. No problem. I could roll a six. I could also roll a one. OK, so... I think sometimes just leave the dice alone.
Well this is what I think. The new owners could be a six, could be a three, could even be a one. But you know what score we have right now? A big fat zero. And Roland's nicked the fucking dice.
So, even if these new owners turn out to be a terrible option, they're far, far better than the malignant idiot in charge right now.
I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.
Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.
My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.
Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.
Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.
This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.
Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths
Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.
Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me
Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money
Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
Well I was wondering what cafcfan1990 means by plus repayable debt. Personally that phrase could mean anything.
I hope all the interested parties play hardball and stick to reasonable offers for the club. Surely even old Duche would get the message then? You're not getting your money back.
I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.
Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.
My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.
Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.
Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.
This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.
Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths
Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.
Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me
Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money
Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
Well I was wondering what cafcfan1990 means by plus repayable debt. Personally that phrase could mean anything.
Agree.
Personally, I took Cafcfan1990 to mean £22m plus debt, as the 'protected' £7m owed to Murray and former directors.
Roland hoping for a bidding war but not sure that's going to happen.
These interested parties will already know how much they're willing to pay for the club and knowing someone else is interested won't push that amount up.
It's not as if these people are falling over themselves to own something that's losing millions a year. And if they do miss out to a rival bidder, there are plenty of other Football League clubs looking for new ownership.
Roland mate your bidding war isn't happening, just sell the club.
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Deluded old scrote
Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths
Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.
Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me
Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money
Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
I just think, well, I dunno, if you look at life like rolling a dice, then my situation now, as it stands, yeah, it may only be a three. If I jack that in now, go for something bigger and better, yeah, I could easily roll a six. No problem. I could roll a six. I could also roll a one. OK, so... I think sometimes just leave the dice alone.
Well this is what I think. The new owners could be a six, could be a three, could even be a one. But you know what score we have right now? A big fat zero. And Roland's nicked the fucking dice.
So, even if these new owners turn out to be a terrible option, they're far, far better than the malignant idiot in charge right now.
February at the earliest
Personally, I took Cafcfan1990 to mean £22m plus debt, as the 'protected' £7m owed to Murray and former directors.
These interested parties will already know how much they're willing to pay for the club and knowing someone else is interested won't push that amount up.
It's not as if these people are falling over themselves to own something that's losing millions a year. And if they do miss out to a rival bidder, there are plenty of other Football League clubs looking for new ownership.
Roland mate your bidding war isn't happening, just sell the club.
All that matters now is that the old codger f@cks off and never goes anywhere near my beloved Charlton again.