The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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The only person he has proved wrong is himself.flyingkiwiDK said:
Not being funny but I don’t think this is necessary true.Arsenetatters said:
Even if one party offered what any normal person would call 'a deal he cannot refuse' I believe Roland would think he could get more from one of the others. He's driven by money and power. If there are four interested parties he will be in his element. No takeover this season IMHO.LargeAddick said:If The Aussies were at The Valley on Tuesday, as was Muir in the evening, is there a chance that Muir is a front man for The Aussies and McLeish is advising on the playing side of things?
If there are four interested parties this could become a long, drawn out affair with Roland playing them all off against each other and maybe eventually getting no deal at all. Unless of course one party offers a deal he cannot refuse.
Do you recall when RD first came onboard our Belgian journo mate (member name “skywalker” or something?) warned us that his motivation goes way beyond money and power. It is more about politics and proving people wrong.
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Ffs, I'm starting to lose track of this now.....The Red Robin said:So do we think the Aussies have more money than McLeish?
@Redhenry 's S-Club party have the serious cash though don't they?0 -
How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?nth london addick said:Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party
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In order for Roland to prove someone wrong about his Charlton ownership he's got to be looking for a 4-yr old quote that says "I bet that Roland will be a right good success at Charlton....", any takers? @Swisdom ??flyingkiwiDK said:
Not being funny but I don’t think this is necessary true.Arsenetatters said:
Even if one party offered what any normal person would call 'a deal he cannot refuse' I believe Roland would think he could get more from one of the others. He's driven by money and power. If there are four interested parties he will be in his element. No takeover this season IMHO.LargeAddick said:If The Aussies were at The Valley on Tuesday, as was Muir in the evening, is there a chance that Muir is a front man for The Aussies and McLeish is advising on the playing side of things?
If there are four interested parties this could become a long, drawn out affair with Roland playing them all off against each other and maybe eventually getting no deal at all. Unless of course one party offers a deal he cannot refuse.
Do you recall when RD first came onboard our Belgian journo mate (member name “skywalker” or something?) warned us that his motivation goes way beyond money and power. It is more about politics and proving people wrong.2 -
Roland will be rubbing his crusty hands together,a bidding war....flyingkiwiDK said:
How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?nth london addick said:Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party
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Is that a good thing ....... will it just add to the uncertainty and cause further delay?nth london addick said:Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party
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Only at Charlton...1
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This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.cafcfan1990 said:I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.
Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.
My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.
Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.
Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.
Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths
Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.
Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me
Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money
Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling11 -
Should we be nervous about the potential incumbents? Here is how I see it. There's a scene in The Office, where Tim Canterbury is contemplating his future prospects and whether he should quit his job and go for a better one. He says,
I just think, well, I dunno, if you look at life like rolling a dice, then my situation now, as it stands, yeah, it may only be a three. If I jack that in now, go for something bigger and better, yeah, I could easily roll a six. No problem. I could roll a six. I could also roll a one. OK, so... I think sometimes just leave the dice alone.
Well this is what I think. The new owners could be a six, could be a three, could even be a one. But you know what score we have right now? A big fat zero. And Roland's nicked the fucking dice.
So, even if these new owners turn out to be a terrible option, they're far, far better than the malignant idiot in charge right now.23 -
Takeover to happen soon or not?.5
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Well I was wondering what cafcfan1990 means by plus repayable debt. Personally that phrase could mean anything.cabbles said:
This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.cafcfan1990 said:I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.
Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.
My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.
Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.
Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.
Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths
Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.
Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me
Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money
Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling1 -
I hope all the interested parties play hardball and stick to reasonable offers for the club. Surely even old Duche would get the message then? You're not getting your money back.2
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Might just as well get yourself one of these mate;Valley27000 said:Takeover to happen soon or not?.
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Need more then that to save us from RD.RedChaser said:
Might just as well get yourself one of these mate;Valley27000 said:Takeover to happen soon or not?.
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Agree.Covered End said:
Well I was wondering what cafcfan1990 means by plus repayable debt. Personally that phrase could mean anything.cabbles said:
This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.cafcfan1990 said:I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.
Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.
My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.
Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.
Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.
Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths
Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.
Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me
Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money
Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
Personally, I took Cafcfan1990 to mean £22m plus debt, as the 'protected' £7m owed to Murray and former directors.
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Roland hoping for a bidding war but not sure that's going to happen.
These interested parties will already know how much they're willing to pay for the club and knowing someone else is interested won't push that amount up.
It's not as if these people are falling over themselves to own something that's losing millions a year. And if they do miss out to a rival bidder, there are plenty of other Football League clubs looking for new ownership.
Roland mate your bidding war isn't happening, just sell the club.5 -
Turns out everyone wants to own Charlton.flyingkiwiDK said:
How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?nth london addick said:Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party
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Redvalleyeast said:
Roland will be rubbing his crusty hands together,a bidding war....flyingkiwiDK said:
How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?nth london addick said:Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party
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If I had a secret KR would be the very last man I would tell ... unless I wanted someone to leak it for meThe Red Robin said:Robinson knows more than he's letting on I suspect.
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I wouldn't put it past him to get his own new consortium together - and sell the club to himself. :Redvalleyeast said:
Roland will be rubbing his crusty hands together,a bidding war....flyingkiwiDK said:
How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?nth london addick said:Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party
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I would class February as “soon”blackpool72 said:2 -
But the transfer window will be shut.flyingkiwiDK said:
I would class February as “soon”blackpool72 said:0 -
I know but to be honest I’ve written off this season already.blackpool72 said:
But the transfer window will be shut.flyingkiwiDK said:
I would class February as “soon”blackpool72 said:
All that matters now is that the old codger f@cks off and never goes anywhere near my beloved Charlton again.15 -
But we will have all of our injured players back so it will look like a new team! laughing to myselfblackpool72 said:
But the transfer window will be shut.flyingkiwiDK said:
I would class February as “soon”blackpool72 said:1 -
Can I throw my hat in the ring and declare I’m interested? Just need to find some rich backers now.6
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Shush - I was hoping to keep that secret.nth london addick said:Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party
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Don't be ridiculous, we have been told by the other side that there were no buyers out there and we should support roli or never come back.Uboat said:
Turns out everyone wants to own Charlton.flyingkiwiDK said:
How many is that now then? 4 potential known bidders?nth london addick said:Since the weekend there has been interest of one new party
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That’s my mindset too, as much as I’m dissappointed by how this season has turned out, I’m happy to write it off if the takeover happens.flyingkiwiDK said:
I know but to be honest I’ve written off this season already.blackpool72 said:
But the transfer window will be shut.flyingkiwiDK said:
I would class February as “soon”blackpool72 said:
All that matters now is that the old codger f@cks off and never goes anywhere near my beloved Charlton again.1 -
How much are the Valley and SL worth do we guesstimate?cabbles said:
This is what I can’t get my head round. Someone’s gonna pay £22m and about £30m worth of debt just to consolidate/pay that down and get us in the champ where we will likely rack up losses, maybe just marginally less.cafcfan1990 said:I just received a text backing up bobs info. Deal is/was days from completion but now probably weeks away.
Haven’t read last 3 pages so possibly old news but the reason for the delay? Australians suddenly became more interested at the start of the week and were even there Tuesday which was interesting as they were believed to have pulled out last week.
My mate knows nothing about the Aussie finances but doesn’t believe the McLeish consortium have the funding for a Prem push, more like debt consolidation with the hope of reaching the champ. Muir would be the man reducing the debt and McLeish would be more likely to be director of football than manager.
Also said he believes Roland mucked other parties about in favour of this one, possibly spite if they have the least money. But Aussies are still around but keeping a much lower profile than McLeish and Donald. The Aussies originally backing off probably resulted in McLeish showing his face believing the deal was done.
Fee of around 22mil plus repayable debt.
Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but what’s the end game in that? I’m not digging you out at all here @cafcfan1990 just trying to work out the maths
Also I get the Muir apt at Rangers because it was Lloyd’s sending their man into look after/retrieve as much of their money that they could.
Buying us for £22m plus debt makes no sense at all to me
Buying us for £15-20m as a £1m a month loss making entity does make sense if you can afford to fund that and try and get in the prem to eventually recoup the money
Debt consolidation as a potential championship club just seems odd. To pay £50m for that investment is really baffling
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