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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    cafcwill said:

    I think we're missing the most important point here

    Who bought all those red & white scarves that were rumoured to be bought?

    Whoever bought the scarves must have known the deal was imminent and be confident enough of their sources to splash out on the scarves. ITK, in short.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117

    How could RM know it will be done in a few weeks if neither party has met the asking price yet.

    “The terms of the deal, including the price, have now been agreed between the parties and we are now just waiting for their respective lawyers to finalise the sale and purchase agreement.”

    That quote from Murray is not consistent with Redhenry’s version that the parties have not agreed to pay the price. I don’t think RH is setting out to mislead anyone - if you get your information from only one place it will inevitably reflect that party’s understanding and not that of others. It’s all useful information.

    I do think there may be scepticism on RD’s part about whether payment will be forthcoming in practice, which would help explain two parties being involved at this stage, but It’s highly unlikely they haven’t indicated a willingness to pay it based on what the club is saying. Murray would stand to look ridiculous if that was the case and he has no incentive to put himself in that situation.
    I think he's already got that base covered.
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,722


    Dave2l said:

    The Scottish group are no longer bothered.

    2 separate bidders leaves the Aussies and a question mark.

    I like the unknown

    apparently Doucher says they are English. then red henry says they are foreign
    From what I've heard one of them is British. The other could either be either the Aussies or @Redhenry's lot. I can't be sure at the moment.
  • I realise I’m being thick but exactly how can both buying parties have had their bids progressed to their prospective lawyers for finalising ? The only possible reason I can think is that Roland is selling the club to one and the The Valley and Sparrows to the other or is this just bollox.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    Does anyone actually know who RedHenry is?
    And by that I mean actually know him not just in the virtual sense?

    Or is he just someone who guessed something right a while ago and his kudos grew from that.

    His answers are so peculiar and vague at times. I have my doubts.

    I do, he stopped me along Regent Street one lunch time. His real name is Colin.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459


    Dave2l said:

    The Scottish group are no longer bothered.

    2 separate bidders leaves the Aussies and a question mark.

    I like the unknown

    apparently Doucher says they are English. then red henry says they are foreign
    From what I've heard one of them is British. The other could either be either the Aussies or @Redhenry's lot. I can't be sure at the moment.
    Nonsense. Over in the corner you. Over there with Red Henry.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734

    I realise I’m being thick but exactly how can both buying parties have had their bids progressed to their prospective lawyers for finalising ? The only possible reason I can think is that Roland is selling the club to one and the The Valley and Sparrows to the other or is this just bollox.

    He can’t do that without the ex-directors knowing, which means it would be out there.
  • I realise I’m being thick but exactly how can both buying parties have had their bids progressed to their prospective lawyers for finalising ? The only possible reason I can think is that Roland is selling the club to one and the The Valley and Sparrows to the other or is this just bollox.

    He can’t do that without the ex-directors knowing, which means it would be out there.
    Why hasn't anyone mentioned this before
  • I realise I’m being thick but exactly how can both buying parties have had their bids progressed to their prospective lawyers for finalising ? The only possible reason I can think is that Roland is selling the club to one and the The Valley and Sparrows to the other or is this just bollox.

    He can’t do that without the ex-directors knowing, which means it would be out there.
    Why hasn't anyone mentioned this before
    I’m reassured by Airman but perhaps it’s because we have never been in the position of having had confirmed that two buyers are progressing their bids to being finalised with their prospective lawyers.

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  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948

    Branson.

    We are in a bit of a pickle
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

    https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/

    #66 Alisher Usmanov would fit the bill.

    Not the first time this has been suggested and would fit the bill as not only is he particularly pissed off with what's going on at Arsenal, he can get hold of a load of Red & White scarves on the cheap.
  • Gammon
    Gammon Posts: 338
    Redhenry said:

    MarcusH26 said:

    The comment from Redhenry about the group he knows about being " well-known" has completely thrown me.

    It’s an individual
    The queen?
  • Davidsmith
    Davidsmith Posts: 207

    I realise I’m being thick but exactly how can both buying parties have had their bids progressed to their prospective lawyers for finalising ? The only possible reason I can think is that Roland is selling the club to one and the The Valley and Sparrows to the other or is this just bollox.

    He can’t do that without the ex-directors knowing, which means it would be out there.
    From what I understand only one of the current bidders left in have approached Ex Directors,so that poses a question.
    Does one of the agreed bidders have lots of cash to not want charges yet, or are they still digging through documents?
    I suspect one is way ahead of the other and better positioned,while second bidder scrambles for funding.
    Airman what do you know?
    I worry that we might end up with a buyer that has limited funds and multiple investors,not a great scenario.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    Gammon said:

    Redhenry said:

    MarcusH26 said:

    The comment from Redhenry about the group he knows about being " well-known" has completely thrown me.

    It’s an individual
    The queen?
    Well she does fit the details we know.......a well known individual, who is not British ;)
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    So theres one well known person who has agreed a price and no one anywhere on social media with a scooby who it is?
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Scooby Doo? And that's why Velma's been seen around the place recently???
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Perhaps a price has been agreed with whatever number of people, that's easy enough but Roland wants go see the colour of their money.
    I can agree with the Louvre the price of the Mona Lisa (including the frame) but they don't let me carry it away until I pay.
    Roland can agree to sell Charlton for 60 million with a thousand people for all the real difference it is making. I really struggle to see what was achieved by the statement yesterday.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734

    I realise I’m being thick but exactly how can both buying parties have had their bids progressed to their prospective lawyers for finalising ? The only possible reason I can think is that Roland is selling the club to one and the The Valley and Sparrows to the other or is this just bollox.

    He can’t do that without the ex-directors knowing, which means it would be out there.
    From what I understand only one of the current bidders left in have approached Ex Directors,so that poses a question.
    Does one of the agreed bidders have lots of cash to not want charges yet, or are they still digging through documents?
    I suspect one is way ahead of the other and better positioned,while second bidder scrambles for funding.
    Airman what do you know?
    I worry that we might end up with a buyer that has limited funds and multiple investors,not a great scenario.
    I've shared everything I know.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359

    Redhenry said:

    I have some clarity on the situation. Price had been agreed with two parties ie the price that will get the deal over the line. But neither party has met this.

    That would contradict what Murray said though.

    WIOTOS

    Redhenry said:

    no

    Can you confirm they are one of the parties that have agreed the price?
    This is the question I’d like answered

    Redhenry said:

    no

    Can you confirm they are one of the parties that have agreed the price?
    i was told they haven't, just a price that will get it done.
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I think Red Henrys info can still be consistent to Murrays statement.

    I mean the statement was awful anyway, barely made sense.

    I can't see how 2 parties have lawyers working on concluding a deal. Would you spend thousands on a deal that was 50/50? I think 2 parties have been set a price and are possibly carrying out work with their lawyers to either meet the asking price/negotiate

  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    at last, well done @cafcfan1990
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,051


    Dave2l said:

    The Scottish group are no longer bothered.

    2 separate bidders leaves the Aussies and a question mark.

    I like the unknown

    apparently Doucher says they are English. then red henry says they are foreign
    Got it. It’s the Royal Family, getting their hands on the club in the Royal Borough of Greenwich! Wonder if Her Maj can explain 4-4-2 to Robbo!!! :smile:
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195

    Scooby Doo? And that's why Velma's been seen around the place recently???

    You're on a roll today, but don't spoil it by setting up your own jokes.
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    Are we nearly there yet ???
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    I think Red Henrys info can still be consistent to Murrays statement.

    I mean the statement was awful anyway, barely made sense.

    I can't see how 2 parties have lawyers working on concluding a deal. Would you spend thousands on a deal that was 50/50? I think 2 parties have been set a price and are possibly carrying out work with their lawyers to either meet the asking price/negotiate

    This.

    Tricky Dicky just trying to be too clever with his language again yesterday.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    I'm still waiting patiently in the background if this all goes tits up.

    My revised offer to purchase the Club made directly to RD and MdR is still on the table.

    All I need is the go ahead for me to instruct my lawyer (retd).
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,888

    I think Red Henrys info can still be consistent to Murrays statement.

    I mean the statement was awful anyway, barely made sense.

    I can't see how 2 parties have lawyers working on concluding a deal. Would you spend thousands on a deal that was 50/50? I think 2 parties have been set a price and are possibly carrying out work with their lawyers to either meet the asking price/negotiate

    So, RD is sitting tight while two parties are seeing if they can get close enough to the "agreed" price at which point they are hoping RD will shake on it. But @Redhenry's super rich and well known (not sure if it's the person, business or both that are well known) investor is playing a waiting game to gazump the price. RD also wants this to happen as it guarantees him the best deal from someone he knows is best-positioned to fund progress for the club and get him his bonuses.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    It's only my opinion. I had a contact involved with the Scottish consortium and I know for a fact they are gone and won't be coming back.

    I believe RD is playing a waiting game and trying to use the two parties to get the best deal. Murrays statement yesterday would back that view up.

    Nobody is going to pay anywhere near RD's original asking price. The best he can hope for is some decent promotional clauses.

    The good news is that would mean he would rather sell to the party capable of getting us up, rather than spiting us as some have suggested.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344

    It's only my opinion. I had a contact involved with the Scottish consortium and I know for a fact they are gone and won't be coming back.

    I believe RD is playing a waiting game and trying to use the two parties to get the best deal. Murrays statement yesterday would back that view up.

    Nobody is going to pay anywhere near RD's original asking price. The best he can hope for is some decent promotional clauses.

    The good news is that would mean he would rather sell to the party capable of getting us up, rather than spiting us as some have suggested.

    The price has been agreed with 2 parties though!
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