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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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My interpretation was, it's a 'bite sized' wind upTaxi_Lad said:@AFKABartram
Was that a deliberate error to credit @DOUCHER instead of @Henry Irving on the bite size thread??
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Sorry to go off topic (as if that's happened before) but I can never look at a Henry the Hoover again in the same light. A friend was messaging with a guy on tinder and he sent her a video of himself in a lewd act with a Henry. Unfortunately she shared it with a few of us. What has been seen cannot be unseen.bobmunro said:
There really are some strange folk about.
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I think the takeover thread might have just reached its pinnacle.7
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At least he could've used HettieCurb_It said:
Sorry to go off topic (as if that's happened before) but I can never look at a Henry the Hoover again in the same light. A friend was messaging with a guy on tinder and he sent her a video of himself in a lewd act with a Henry. Unfortunately she shared it with a few of us. What has been seen cannot be unseen.bobmunro said:
There really are some strange folk about.9 -
A ‘friend’
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Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:10 -
Henry Irving said:
- There has been speculation that some false stories were given to staff at Charlton to either muddy the waters or to find those leaking news
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Not surprising though. Regardless how we feel about the owner, management etc the leaks are harmful. One of the biggest frustrations for any business is gossip - most often completely wrong but harmful if it becomes the commonly held perception. There are things that have leaked from Charlton that haven't painted certain employees in the best light (understatement of the year) and that in turn whips up certain elements of the fan base who believe everything they read and this then becomes bigger and bigger.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't bother asking the employees I speak to for inside information because it is unfair on them to risk their jobs so you can score a kudos point online. What will be will be and we can't do much to influence it now so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.1 -
The simple way to manage rumours is to get your information out there first, clearly and on a regular basis.Swisdom said:
Not surprising though. Regardless how we feel about the owner, management etc the leaks are harmful. One of the biggest frustrations for any business is gossip - most often completely wrong but harmful if it becomes the commonly held perception. There are things that have leaked from Charlton that haven't painted certain employees in the best light (understatement of the year) and that in turn whips up certain elements of the fan base who believe everything they read and this then becomes bigger and bigger.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't bother asking the employees I speak to for inside information because it is unfair on them to risk their jobs so you can score a kudos point online. What will be will be and we can't do much to influence it now so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
Not only did the club not do this but on the rare occasions that they did speak they, KM in particular, was dismissive and dishonest.
We have seen that even the limited statements from Richard Murray are far more positive and informative. They address, up to a point anyway, the questions people are asking and they are shared publicly. I'm not saying they are perfect but at least they have a modicum of effort behind them.36 -
No offence intended mate but you are someone who has / has had a lot of contact with people inside the club / connected to the club and I’m sure would gain knowledge of aspects that would not be known to the average fan. Unless you can categorically say that you have never ever passed any of that on to even a single other person, even ‘in confidence’ then that renders you point to the contrary.Swisdom said:
Not surprising though. Regardless how we feel about the owner, management etc the leaks are harmful. One of the biggest frustrations for any business is gossip - most often completely wrong but harmful if it becomes the commonly held perception. There are things that have leaked from Charlton that haven't painted certain employees in the best light (understatement of the year) and that in turn whips up certain elements of the fan base who believe everything they read and this then becomes bigger and bigger.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't bother asking the employees I speak to for inside information because it is unfair on them to risk their jobs so you can score a kudos point online. What will be will be and we can't do much to influence it now so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
Football clubs, all football clubs, leak like sieves. Always have, always will.33 - Sponsored links:
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Totally agreeRedhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:1 -
There are things that are put out there with a view to it getting into the public domain - I know this has happened in the past and certain people at the club have used others to get bits of information out there.AFKABartram said:
No offence intended mate but you are someone who has / has had a lot of contact with people inside the club / connected to the club and I’m sure would gain knowledge of aspects that would not be known to the average fan. Unless you can categorically say that you have never ever passed any of that on to even a single other person, even ‘in confidence’ then that renders you point to the contrary.Swisdom said:
Not surprising though. Regardless how we feel about the owner, management etc the leaks are harmful. One of the biggest frustrations for any business is gossip - most often completely wrong but harmful if it becomes the commonly held perception. There are things that have leaked from Charlton that haven't painted certain employees in the best light (understatement of the year) and that in turn whips up certain elements of the fan base who believe everything they read and this then becomes bigger and bigger.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't bother asking the employees I speak to for inside information because it is unfair on them to risk their jobs so you can score a kudos point online. What will be will be and we can't do much to influence it now so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
Football clubs, all football clubs, leak like sieves. Always have, always will.
There are things I have alluded to or told certain people if I am privy to information but they are trivial things in the grand scheme of things.
There are things I have known about but wouldn't divulge because I have a working relationship with the club and have a business to maintain so will not jeopardise that.
There are things that have leaked that should not have leaked. These are the things I refer to. I know it happens at a lot of clubs but why shouldn't the club try to do something to identify a potential "mole"
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On Saturday I did ask David Joyes if he wanted to tell me what was happening with the takeover and if there was any juicy gossip - ie did he want to drop a shitbomb before leaving. He said he no. But that's about it.AFKABartram said:
No offence intended mate but you are someone who has / has had a lot of contact with people inside the club / connected to the club and I’m sure would gain knowledge of aspects that would not be known to the average fan. Unless you can categorically say that you have never ever passed any of that on to even a single other person, even ‘in confidence’ then that renders you point to the contrary.Swisdom said:
Not surprising though. Regardless how we feel about the owner, management etc the leaks are harmful. One of the biggest frustrations for any business is gossip - most often completely wrong but harmful if it becomes the commonly held perception. There are things that have leaked from Charlton that haven't painted certain employees in the best light (understatement of the year) and that in turn whips up certain elements of the fan base who believe everything they read and this then becomes bigger and bigger.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't bother asking the employees I speak to for inside information because it is unfair on them to risk their jobs so you can score a kudos point online. What will be will be and we can't do much to influence it now so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
Football clubs, all football clubs, leak like sieves. Always have, always will.
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Because there are far more important things that the club should be doing.Swisdom said:
There are things that are put out there with a view to it getting into the public domain - I know this has happened in the past and certain people at the club have used others to get bits of information out there.AFKABartram said:
No offence intended mate but you are someone who has / has had a lot of contact with people inside the club / connected to the club and I’m sure would gain knowledge of aspects that would not be known to the average fan. Unless you can categorically say that you have never ever passed any of that on to even a single other person, even ‘in confidence’ then that renders you point to the contrary.Swisdom said:
Not surprising though. Regardless how we feel about the owner, management etc the leaks are harmful. One of the biggest frustrations for any business is gossip - most often completely wrong but harmful if it becomes the commonly held perception. There are things that have leaked from Charlton that haven't painted certain employees in the best light (understatement of the year) and that in turn whips up certain elements of the fan base who believe everything they read and this then becomes bigger and bigger.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't bother asking the employees I speak to for inside information because it is unfair on them to risk their jobs so you can score a kudos point online. What will be will be and we can't do much to influence it now so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
Football clubs, all football clubs, leak like sieves. Always have, always will.
There are things I have alluded to or told certain people if I am privy to information but they are trivial things in the grand scheme of things.
There are things I have known about but wouldn't divulge because I have a working relationship with the club and have a business to maintain so will not jeopardise that.
There are things that have leaked that should not have leaked. These are the things I refer to. I know it happens at a lot of clubs but why shouldn't the club try to do something to identify a potential "mole"16 -
Anyway, any more gossip fellaaaas?0
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Maybe @soapy_jones can ask big Josh for some juicy gossip when he bumps into him at Blockbuster Video later?6
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I okayed it - afka said he wanted to add a bit of credibility to the statementRedChaser said:
My interpretation was, it's a 'bite sized' wind upTaxi_Lad said:@AFKABartram
Was that a deliberate error to credit @DOUCHER instead of @Henry Irving on the bite size thread??
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WOW, what a differenceSuedeAdidas said:Maybe @soapy_jones can ask big Josh for some juicy gossip when he bumps into him at Blockbuster Video later?
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There are plenty of things David Joyes could have told you but why incriminate himself?Swisdom said:
On Saturday I did ask David Joyes if he wanted to tell me what was happening with the takeover and if there was any juicy gossip - ie did he want to drop a shitbomb before leaving. He said he no. But that's about it.AFKABartram said:
No offence intended mate but you are someone who has / has had a lot of contact with people inside the club / connected to the club and I’m sure would gain knowledge of aspects that would not be known to the average fan. Unless you can categorically say that you have never ever passed any of that on to even a single other person, even ‘in confidence’ then that renders you point to the contrary.Swisdom said:
Not surprising though. Regardless how we feel about the owner, management etc the leaks are harmful. One of the biggest frustrations for any business is gossip - most often completely wrong but harmful if it becomes the commonly held perception. There are things that have leaked from Charlton that haven't painted certain employees in the best light (understatement of the year) and that in turn whips up certain elements of the fan base who believe everything they read and this then becomes bigger and bigger.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't bother asking the employees I speak to for inside information because it is unfair on them to risk their jobs so you can score a kudos point online. What will be will be and we can't do much to influence it now so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
Football clubs, all football clubs, leak like sieves. Always have, always will.
Good riddance to the man.6 -
Henry Irving said:
There are plenty of things David Joyes could have told you but why incriminate himself?Swisdom said:
On Saturday I did ask David Joyes if he wanted to tell me what was happening with the takeover and if there was any juicy gossip - ie did he want to drop a shitbomb before leaving. He said he no. But that's about it.AFKABartram said:
No offence intended mate but you are someone who has / has had a lot of contact with people inside the club / connected to the club and I’m sure would gain knowledge of aspects that would not be known to the average fan. Unless you can categorically say that you have never ever passed any of that on to even a single other person, even ‘in confidence’ then that renders you point to the contrary.Swisdom said:
Not surprising though. Regardless how we feel about the owner, management etc the leaks are harmful. One of the biggest frustrations for any business is gossip - most often completely wrong but harmful if it becomes the commonly held perception. There are things that have leaked from Charlton that haven't painted certain employees in the best light (understatement of the year) and that in turn whips up certain elements of the fan base who believe everything they read and this then becomes bigger and bigger.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't bother asking the employees I speak to for inside information because it is unfair on them to risk their jobs so you can score a kudos point online. What will be will be and we can't do much to influence it now so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
Football clubs, all football clubs, leak like sieves. Always have, always will.
Good riddance to the man.
Joyes Division
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Not shocking at all when you look at the people who are "running" the place.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:11 -
Joyes didn't tell you because like Murray, he won't have the full picture.
The deal is being completed in Belgium and the drip, drip, drip from Duchatalet is only what he wants people in SE7 to hear.
As Henry has said, be open with your communication (up to a point), don't lie to your customers and rather than try and feed false information to staff to see if gets out (I know for a fact they have done this) how about spending the time in issuing clear and unambiguous weekly updates even if it is to say no progress since last week.
They are well aware of the tensions it's causing so many fans and should be hardly surprised that rumour and supposition are being spouted about all over Social Media.
Nothing has changed since Meire left and there is only one person to blame for that.40 -
Err no.cafcfan said:
So, if I've got this right, you're saying Sticky Vicky is coming out of retirement to satisfy the BDSM proclivities of certain supporters by running courses on flagellation?ElfsborgAddick said:
If it is Beckham I suppose Victoria could engage with the fans by flogging programmes.RedChaser said:Forget Beckham he's only worth c£340m it's @Henry Irving 's long lost American relative James Irving;
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Part of the Statement from Duchatelet back in December what he said he was selling:
“There is a lot of underground influences, we decide a lot about emotions, we make and break your image on the basis of rumours, social networks create real background slides that are difficult to answer.
“It was an interesting experience and I learned a lot about how social media can have an impact on the psychology of masses and how they can influence decisions which affect many people.”
I remember thinking at the time could he do a bit more experimentation regarding his social media observations?
I think we've seen that play out these past couple of months.
All maybe not what it seems.0 -
I'm willing to bet you three onions, a grapefruit and my frigging house that he isn't that smart.carly burn said:Part of the Statement from Duchatelet back in December what he said he was selling:
“There is a lot of underground influences, we decide a lot about emotions, we make and break your image on the basis of rumours, social networks create real background slides that are difficult to answer.
“It was an interesting experience and I learned a lot about how social media can have an impact on the psychology of masses and how they can influence decisions which affect many people.”
I remember thinking at the time could he do a bit more experimentation regarding his social media observations?
I think we've seen that play out these past couple of months.
All maybe not what it seems.
If the takeover doesn't go through it won't be because it was all a machievellian experiment, it'll be because the yellow toothed, duct-taped miserable old scrote was too bloody greedy....22 -
Airman revealed in a recent VOTV that they tried that trick with Mick Everett, he didn’t fall for it.Redhenry said:
That is shockingSolidgone said:There has been speculation that some false stories were given to staff at Charlton to either muddy the waters or to find those leaking news.
Lesson 1: How to show trust in your staff.10 -
Brotherly love, after all blood is thicker than waterDA9 said:
Airman revealed in a recent VOTV that they tried that trick with Mick Everett, he didn’t fall for it.Redhenry said:
That is shockingSolidgone said:There has been speculation that some false stories were given to staff at Charlton to either muddy the waters or to find those leaking news.
Lesson 1: How to show trust in your staff. 4 -
I just don’t understand what the fucking point in it is?0
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Gives an opportunity to sack people, so reduces the payroll.ValleyGary said:I just don’t understand what the fucking point in it is?
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daveydanger said:Henry Irving said:
There are plenty of things David Joyes could have told you but why incriminate himself?Swisdom said:
On Saturday I did ask David Joyes if he wanted to tell me what was happening with the takeover and if there was any juicy gossip - ie did he want to drop a shitbomb before leaving. He said he no. But that's about it.AFKABartram said:
No offence intended mate but you are someone who has / has had a lot of contact with people inside the club / connected to the club and I’m sure would gain knowledge of aspects that would not be known to the average fan. Unless you can categorically say that you have never ever passed any of that on to even a single other person, even ‘in confidence’ then that renders you point to the contrary.Swisdom said:
Not surprising though. Regardless how we feel about the owner, management etc the leaks are harmful. One of the biggest frustrations for any business is gossip - most often completely wrong but harmful if it becomes the commonly held perception. There are things that have leaked from Charlton that haven't painted certain employees in the best light (understatement of the year) and that in turn whips up certain elements of the fan base who believe everything they read and this then becomes bigger and bigger.Redhenry said:
Serious, shocking if Charlton have done that.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't bother asking the employees I speak to for inside information because it is unfair on them to risk their jobs so you can score a kudos point online. What will be will be and we can't do much to influence it now so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
Football clubs, all football clubs, leak like sieves. Always have, always will.
Good riddance to the man.
Joyes Division
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