Right, after mulling this over I now believe I answers as to the whom the bidders are. The clues are there.
1) Wealthy Individual - Is Michael O'Leary who is now back in seriously following time away for both Cheltenham and Aintree. He wants to own a smaller English football Club to enable him to take on the might of the big European/US/Middle Eastern owners and show them how it is done on the cheap. Season tickets will be £99 throughout The Valley, but you have to rent your seat on a match by match basis.
2) British Consortium - Headed by Brits in Varney and Elliot, but with Kuwaiti backing. These have been rumbling along in the background for some time, but interest has upped since the oil price started to recover and they need to invest in the UK somewhere since the Paramount Park has been put on hold. Post purchase, there is a five year plan starting with £10m being available for season one, which doubles every year. The plan is to be at least in the Europa League by 2023/24 season
3) Aussie Consortium - With half of the sale price being agreed with Andrew Muir who despite not being the front man, will be a major shareholder. The hold up on completion is that one of the consortium's business (DKF) has made a significant loss since the dried kangaroo foreskin market collapsed in China, following clinical trials and the now cheaply available Viagra substitute flooded the home market. The Aussies are the only ones with an exit plan.
I agree that it’s RD’s deal but the stumbling blocks and obstacles have all been placed by Murray , Murray will have the most influence on how close people get to RD before the actual deals can be thrashed out , the noises made by Murray behind the scenes are pivotal in how RD moves as he is so far removed from the club and it’s DNA
Murray has delayed and potentially cost us this take over and some pre RD and i Believe at least one opportunity of getting rid of him earlier than this
And the fear of PV being involved in the background would Make a lot of sense
Personally I don’t think varney is involved may be he brokered and made the initial pathway but I don’t expect to see him back here
You seem to be convinced about this.....that really is stretching things to the limit nla. Yes, it's a possibility but I think a very very tenuous one and certainly pure conjecture on your part.
Name one part of this whole charade I have got wrong soundas
A few months back when the buzz word was imminent and done deal I posted no fee agreed and it was said then I know nothing and it’s guess work
4 months later I was right and I am right now
I wouldn’t call it conjecture I would say it’s the most reliable info on here with the exception of what Redhenry posts as i know that is true also
The problem is Murray it’s been murray for years
But it's STILL only conjecture nla....you have no proof. Why on earth would Murray be muddying the water and if he were, for what purpose and why are you convinced that Goldfinger would act upon his opinions anyway. Indeed, I would suspect he is likely to be very cautious of anything RM has to say or anyone else come to that. If you can give me some sound reasons why RM wishes to screw up takeovers then I may be more inclined to go along with your hypothesis.
How is it that people know RM is slowing things up but don’t know who the bidders actually are?
How? Surely this could only happen if buyers don’t want to give him the same deal or Rolly wants some sort of security by having a charge on the assets which the ex Directors have 1st charge on?
I find the allegation implausible to be honest. Does anyone know for certain how hw is slowing things up?
Can those in the know also clear up how we have moved from the original 2 bidders (red Henry’s and the Aussies) and then one walked away; to now 3 bidders with a British bid looking most likely?
I think there has always been three. Although I wasn't aware of the British one for a while.
I agree that it’s RD’s deal but the stumbling blocks and obstacles have all been placed by Murray , Murray will have the most influence on how close people get to RD before the actual deals can be thrashed out , the noises made by Murray behind the scenes are pivotal in how RD moves as he is so far removed from the club and it’s DNA
Murray has delayed and potentially cost us this take over and some pre RD and i Believe at least one opportunity of getting rid of him earlier than this
And the fear of PV being involved in the background would Make a lot of sense
Personally I don’t think varney is involved may be he brokered and made the initial pathway but I don’t expect to see him back here
You seem to be convinced about this.....that really is stretching things to the limit nla. Yes, it's a possibility but I think a very very tenuous one and certainly pure conjecture on your part.
Name one part of this whole charade I have got wrong soundas
A few months back when the buzz word was imminent and done deal I posted no fee agreed and it was said then I know nothing and it’s guess work
4 months later I was right and I am right now
I wouldn’t call it conjecture I would say it’s the most reliable info on here with the exception of what Redhenry posts as i know that is true also
But it’s a lot easier to predict that nothing is happening, than to try to piece together some snippets of inside info and other clues to try to establish what is going to happen and when. The posters on here trying to decipher all this deserve a lot of respect for their efforts imo.
I agree that it’s RD’s deal but the stumbling blocks and obstacles have all been placed by Murray , Murray will have the most influence on how close people get to RD before the actual deals can be thrashed out , the noises made by Murray behind the scenes are pivotal in how RD moves as he is so far removed from the club and it’s DNA
Murray has delayed and potentially cost us this take over and some pre RD and i Believe at least one opportunity of getting rid of him earlier than this
And the fear of PV being involved in the background would Make a lot of sense
Personally I don’t think varney is involved may be he brokered and made the initial pathway but I don’t expect to see him back here
You seem to be convinced about this.....that really is stretching things to the limit nla. Yes, it's a possibility but I think a very very tenuous one and certainly pure conjecture on your part.
Name one part of this whole charade I have got wrong soundas
A few months back when the buzz word was imminent and done deal I posted no fee agreed and it was said then I know nothing and it’s guess work
4 months later I was right and I am right now
I wouldn’t call it conjecture I would say it’s the most reliable info on here with the exception of what Redhenry posts as i know that is true also
The problem is Murray it’s been murray for years
But it's STILL only conjecture nla....you have no proof. Why on earth would Murray be muddying the water and if he were, for what purpose and why are you convinced that Goldfinger would act upon his opinions anyway. Indeed, I would suspect he is likely to be very cautious of anything RM has to say or anyone else come to that. If you can give me some sound reasons why RM wishes to screw up takeovers then I may be more inclined to go along with your hypothesis.
For a start I don’t know and never met the major players involved, but from the outside, in a word Vanity. Duchatelet, his vanity for thinking that he’s Alan Turing and thinking his way of doing things is far far better that what anyone has done before. Meire, the vanity for accepting a job, from one of her parent’s friends, and having no skills to do it with any success. Murray, his vanity wants to keep himself at the top table.
After 678 pages why do we not have a new owner ? Has anyone thought about shirt-fronting Roland and having a word. He needs some encouragement, some reason to change his approach. It is all become a farce.
to be honest i now take anything i read on here with a large pinch of salt.
Bingo!!! Brightens the day up though, reading all the false dawns. It started off as the tiniest of snowballs and is now an alpine avalanche!! What the last few months in particular have shown is that no one really knows a lot about it. Hence the constant replenishment of the salt cellar.
to be honest i now take anything i read on here with a large pinch of salt.
I try to, and I genuinely don't think Roland's going anytime soon. BUT..... each time a new rumour surfaces a little bit of wee comes out and there's a tiny bit of me that thinks 'could this be it?'
I agree that it’s RD’s deal but the stumbling blocks and obstacles have all been placed by Murray , Murray will have the most influence on how close people get to RD before the actual deals can be thrashed out , the noises made by Murray behind the scenes are pivotal in how RD moves as he is so far removed from the club and it’s DNA
Murray has delayed and potentially cost us this take over and some pre RD and i Believe at least one opportunity of getting rid of him earlier than this
And the fear of PV being involved in the background would Make a lot of sense
Personally I don’t think varney is involved may be he brokered and made the initial pathway but I don’t expect to see him back here
You seem to be convinced about this.....that really is stretching things to the limit nla. Yes, it's a possibility but I think a very very tenuous one and certainly pure conjecture on your part.
Name one part of this whole charade I have got wrong soundas
A few months back when the buzz word was imminent and done deal I posted no fee agreed and it was said then I know nothing and it’s guess work
4 months later I was right and I am right now
I wouldn’t call it conjecture I would say it’s the most reliable info on here with the exception of what Redhenry posts as i know that is true also
The problem is Murray it’s been murray for years
But it's STILL only conjecture nla....you have no proof. Why on earth would Murray be muddying the water and if he were, for what purpose and why are you convinced that Goldfinger would act upon his opinions anyway. Indeed, I would suspect he is likely to be very cautious of anything RM has to say or anyone else come to that. If you can give me some sound reasons why RM wishes to screw up takeovers then I may be more inclined to go along with your hypothesis.
For a start I don’t know and never met the major players involved, but from the outside, in a word Vanity. Duchatelet, his vanity for thinking that he’s Alan Turing and thinking his way of doing things is far far better that what anyone has done before. Meire, the vanity for accepting a job, from one of her parent’s friends, and having no skills to do it with any success. Murray, his vanity wants to keep himself at the top table.
Vanity/Ego sums it up.
Good to see you come out of the shadows, Harry Lime.
to be honest i now take anything i read on here with a large pinch of salt.
I try to, and I genuinely don't think Roland's going anytime soon. BUT..... each time a new rumour surfaces a little bit of wee comes out and there's a tiny bit of me that thinks 'could this be it?'
I agree that it’s RD’s deal but the stumbling blocks and obstacles have all been placed by Murray , Murray will have the most influence on how close people get to RD before the actual deals can be thrashed out , the noises made by Murray behind the scenes are pivotal in how RD moves as he is so far removed from the club and it’s DNA
Murray has delayed and potentially cost us this take over and some pre RD and i Believe at least one opportunity of getting rid of him earlier than this
And the fear of PV being involved in the background would Make a lot of sense
Personally I don’t think varney is involved may be he brokered and made the initial pathway but I don’t expect to see him back here
You seem to be convinced about this.....that really is stretching things to the limit nla. Yes, it's a possibility but I think a very very tenuous one and certainly pure conjecture on your part.
Name one part of this whole charade I have got wrong soundas
A few months back when the buzz word was imminent and done deal I posted no fee agreed and it was said then I know nothing and it’s guess work
4 months later I was right and I am right now
I wouldn’t call it conjecture I would say it’s the most reliable info on here with the exception of what Redhenry posts as i know that is true also
The problem is Murray it’s been murray for years
But it's STILL only conjecture nla....you have no proof. Why on earth would Murray be muddying the water and if he were, for what purpose and why are you convinced that Goldfinger would act upon his opinions anyway. Indeed, I would suspect he is likely to be very cautious of anything RM has to say or anyone else come to that. If you can give me some sound reasons why RM wishes to screw up takeovers then I may be more inclined to go along with your hypothesis.
For a start I don’t know and never met the major players involved, but from the outside, in a word Vanity. Duchatelet, his vanity for thinking that he’s Alan Turing and thinking his way of doing things is far far better that what anyone has done before. Meire, the vanity for accepting a job, from one of her parent’s friends, and having no skills to do it with any success. Murray, his vanity wants to keep himself at the top table.
Vanity/Ego sums it up.
Good to see you come out of the shadows, Harry Lime.
It's about time he got a new raincoat though and gave up the fags
I agree that it’s RD’s deal but the stumbling blocks and obstacles have all been placed by Murray , Murray will have the most influence on how close people get to RD before the actual deals can be thrashed out , the noises made by Murray behind the scenes are pivotal in how RD moves as he is so far removed from the club and it’s DNA
Murray has delayed and potentially cost us this take over and some pre RD and i Believe at least one opportunity of getting rid of him earlier than this
And the fear of PV being involved in the background would Make a lot of sense
Personally I don’t think varney is involved may be he brokered and made the initial pathway but I don’t expect to see him back here
You seem to be convinced about this.....that really is stretching things to the limit nla. Yes, it's a possibility but I think a very very tenuous one and certainly pure conjecture on your part.
Name one part of this whole charade I have got wrong soundas
A few months back when the buzz word was imminent and done deal I posted no fee agreed and it was said then I know nothing and it’s guess work
4 months later I was right and I am right now
I wouldn’t call it conjecture I would say it’s the most reliable info on here with the exception of what Redhenry posts as i know that is true also
The problem is Murray it’s been murray for years
But it's STILL only conjecture nla....you have no proof. Why on earth would Murray be muddying the water and if he were, for what purpose and why are you convinced that Goldfinger would act upon his opinions anyway. Indeed, I would suspect he is likely to be very cautious of anything RM has to say or anyone else come to that. If you can give me some sound reasons why RM wishes to screw up takeovers then I may be more inclined to go along with your hypothesis.
For a start I don’t know and never met the major players involved, but from the outside, in a word Vanity. Duchatelet, his vanity for thinking that he’s Alan Turing and thinking his way of doing things is far far better that what anyone has done before. Meire, the vanity for accepting a job, from one of her parent’s friends, and having no skills to do it with any success. Murray, his vanity wants to keep himself at the top table.
So you don't have a shred of proof and you are basing your views on an opinion that we would have been sold long ago had hr not instructed/suggested /or coerced Goldfinger not to accept multiple offers......and all because of his vanity! Dear oh dear oh dear!
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1) Wealthy Individual - Is Michael O'Leary who is now back in seriously following time away for both Cheltenham and Aintree. He wants to own a smaller English football Club to enable him to take on the might of the big European/US/Middle Eastern owners and show them how it is done on the cheap. Season tickets will be £99 throughout The Valley, but you have to rent your seat on a match by match basis.
2) British Consortium - Headed by Brits in Varney and Elliot, but with Kuwaiti backing. These have been rumbling along in the background for some time, but interest has upped since the oil price started to recover and they need to invest in the UK somewhere since the Paramount Park has been put on hold. Post purchase, there is a five year plan starting with £10m being available for season one, which doubles every year. The plan is to be at least in the Europa League by 2023/24 season
3) Aussie Consortium - With half of the sale price being agreed with Andrew Muir who despite not being the front man, will be a major shareholder. The hold up on completion is that one of the consortium's business (DKF) has made a significant loss since the dried kangaroo foreskin market collapsed in China, following clinical trials and the now cheaply available Viagra substitute flooded the home market. The Aussies are the only ones with an exit plan.
Why on earth would Murray be muddying the water and if he were, for what purpose and why are you convinced that Goldfinger would act upon his opinions anyway. Indeed, I would suspect he is likely to be very cautious of anything RM has to say or anyone else come to that.
If you can give me some sound reasons why RM wishes to screw up takeovers then I may be more inclined to go along with your hypothesis.
But it’s a lot easier to predict that nothing is happening, than to try to piece together some snippets of inside info and other clues to try to establish what is going to happen and when. The posters on here trying to decipher all this deserve a lot of respect for their efforts imo.
Duchatelet, his vanity for thinking that he’s Alan Turing and thinking his way of doing things is far far better that what anyone has done before.
Meire, the vanity for accepting a job, from one of her parent’s friends, and having no skills to do it with any success.
Murray, his vanity wants to keep himself at the top table.
Good to see you come out of the shadows, Harry Lime.
Dear oh dear oh dear!