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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • Fiiish said:

    Fiiish said:

    Fiiish said:

    Fiiish said:

    Voting to keep the Tories out, wherever you live, is the only sane thing to do. Unless you own a newspaper, they do not represent you.

    Good god. I don't think it's as cut and dry as that.

    Fiiish said:

    Voting to keep the Tories out, wherever you live, is the only sane thing to do. Unless you own a newspaper, they do not represent you.

    Good god. I don't think it's as cut and dry as that.
    Put yourself in the mind of a humourless zealot.
    More personal insults and lies from the right wingers on this forum.
    Your definition of right wing probably encompasses quite a wide spectrum. I'd also like to add thin skinned to my insults/insight.
    You might remember I voted Tory last election.

    You only seem to come into this thread to post personal insults in my direction and not contribute at all. It's very sad, then you throw hissyfits like your above post when called out on it. Certainly not a jolly man in a red shirt, just bitter and obnoxious.
    If you want to go down that path I'd say you were self righteous and judgemental with a narcissistic need to cut down anyone who disagrees with you. Your sweeping statements about people who vote Tory are pathetic and encapsulate the Corbynista cult perfectly.
    Glad you got that off your chest.

    Friends?

    Come on now - let's not ruin a lovely moment.


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  • Fiiish said:

    Fiiish said:

    Fiiish said:

    Voting to keep the Tories out, wherever you live, is the only sane thing to do. Unless you own a newspaper, they do not represent you.

    Good god. I don't think it's as cut and dry as that.

    Fiiish said:

    Voting to keep the Tories out, wherever you live, is the only sane thing to do. Unless you own a newspaper, they do not represent you.

    Good god. I don't think it's as cut and dry as that.
    Put yourself in the mind of a humourless zealot.
    More personal insults and lies from the right wingers on this forum.
    Your definition of right wing probably encompasses quite a wide spectrum. I'd also like to add thin skinned to my insults/insight.
    You might remember I voted Tory last election.

    You only seem to come into this thread to post personal insults in my direction and not contribute at all. It's very sad, then you throw hissyfits like your above post when called out on it. Certainly not a jolly man in a red shirt, just bitter and obnoxious.
    If you want to go down that path I'd say you were self righteous and judgemental with a narcissistic need to cut down anyone who disagrees with you. Your sweeping statements about people who vote Tory are pathetic and encapsulate the Corbynista cult perfectly.
    He was the same in the Brexit thread until I got him to see reason :wink:
  • Glad to hear it's busy at the polling stations.
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    Narcissistic is a new one though. Pissing myself at possibly the least apt adjective ever applied to me. At least Santa's proven he's got a sense of humour.
  • Looking forward to it all being over.
  • clb74 said:

    Rob7Lee said:

    I think an interesting poll on here would be who's voting different to last time, a number have jumped ship from blue to red or in my case red to blue.

    UKIP to green party.
    Am in Bromley chislehurst
    Conservative won last time round by 13,500 votes
    Does my vote really matter

    That's a stark change! I'm sort of glad Greens stepped down in my area as I was tempted to vote for them but don't think they'd approve of my choice of cars......

    Clearly Bromley will vote conservative so their schools will get the same level of funding per pupil that Lewisham & Greenwich gets. (Runs and hides before Mutley catches me)
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    Respect your elders you ungrateful rabble!

    They have seen good government and bad goverment of all colours over the years.

    They have also wiped your shitty arses and snotty noses at some point. Mum knows best, she probably sewed that first CND badge on your jean jacket for you while inwardly laughing at your naivity.

    Can't all be down to the Daily Mail and dementia surely?

    ;0)
  • Can't all be down to the Daily Mail and dementia surely?

    ;0)

    On a slightly serious note, I didn't bother looking, but my dads in a care home with late stage dementia, could he in theory have voted? Not that he could write an X on a piece of paper but I guess there is no law stopping his vote?
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    Dazzler21 said:

    Not sure if I've gone Red to Blue or Blue to Red?
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    Corbyn only wears blue in mourning.

    ......and Diane Abbot should know.


    Oh sorry.....thought you said in the morning.
  • cafcpolo said:

    LenGlover said:

    I usually watch elections avidly but not this time.

    Think I may stay up just to check in on here and watch the place go in to meltdown IF a Tory win is looking likely. Won't need booze to keep me up, the comments should keep me chuckling throughout.
    Seriously. Clearly this stuff doesn't really matter much to you othewise you wouldn't post silly, provocative comments like that. But as someone directly effected by the process, who is seeing first hand the dismantling of our public sector, I fail to see anything to be glib about. Perhaps you could have a "chuckle" about the possible consequences outlined in @AddickUpNorth 's post about the increased risk to prison officers, because I can't see anything to laugh about in it?
    Its actually my first time voting and I have a reason to do so, and it'll be a Tory vote because my family and I will be better off for it.

    It's not those comments I laugh at. More the sweeping generalisations grown men and women will be making about people who voted for the Tories. I've seen all sorts of assumptions made about the type of voter they are on here (none of which I fall into) and it makes me laugh. I just imagine this is happening at the other end.


  • Looking forward to it all being over.

    The way some in the Question Time audience last week were asking that nice Mr Corbyn about using Trident, it sounds like you're not the only one....
  • sm said:

    What is important is that Corbyn can keep power so a bad labour defeat will be a disaster.

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    What will be a disaster is another 5 years of the Tories in power and the further suffering that it will cause to decent working people. If Labour had a decent leader then it would have walked this election against a second rate Tory leader, a truly awful Tory campaign and seven years of austerity in which most people saw no improvement in their living standards. If Corbyn cannot win against such a weak government and record then he has demonstrated his ineffectiveness and should do the decent thing and go at once - and apologise for his failure as he leaves.
    SDAddick said:

    Well I am afraid that I don't believe what some of the polls suggest. I reckon there will be a Tory majority of around 75, and the reason is this article from a very smart marketing bloke called Mark Ritson.

    Unfortunately you will probably have to register to read it, but basically he is saying that the Tories havetow guys who really understand how to use Facebook to target messages to people in key constituencies (such as Eltham). He doesnt argue that the Tories have done anything illegal (other than the blatantly misleading ads themselves) nor does he suggest that Facebook as a company is helping the Tories. He doesnt rule out that Labour has recruited people who also understand how to use Facebook advertising effectively. He also believes that the Electoral Commission will be able to see how much they have spent, and not have a problem. The thing with Facebook is, how you spend it. Targetting. Here are some excerpts

    I think the Conservatives might win a majority on Thursday because they are better at marketing. Specifically, digital marketing. More specifically, Facebook advertising. And even more specifically, because Tom Edmunds and Craig Elder are smarter than me, you and probably most other marketers in the country.

    In 2015 the Conservative Party outspent Labour seven-fold on social media advertising and 50 times more than the Lib Dems. The Vote Leave campaign that secured Brexit spent 98% of its £6.8m budget on digital media (and most of that on Facebook); the same proportional spend should win the election once again later this week.

    There might be 650 constituencies at stake on Thursday when Britain goes to the polls but the reality is that 85% of them are locked up as safe seats. This election will be won or lost on the 100 or so constituencies where two or more possible parties could win on Thursday. The first and most important strategic decision is to devote all of your digital budget to this small slice of Britain.

    Traditionally, in an election campaign a party inevitably had to explain itself to the whole nation. With Facebook, however, all kinds of new possibilities present themselves. First, we can ignore the vast majority of voters, even in a target constituency, because we already know we have either got them or lost them. Instead we will target voters that are still likely to be making up their mind and still possible to convert to our cause.

    But let’s not stop there. While we try to get undecideds to vote for us, we will be spending at least as much effort and budget on those that will vote for our rivals and persuading them not to bother.

    Unlike traditional political advertising, which everyone gets to see and critique, Facebook ads are ‘dark’. That means other voters, other parties, even other supporters have no clue exactly who you are targeting with your ads. Never mind under-the-radar, Facebook advertising has no radar.

    This is incredibly important, and this is something the Trump Campaign purported to do during the US election--namely targeting "swing counties" or rural areas with pointed social media adverts. There is also some indication that the GRU targeted similar areas with fake news headlines and stories.
    So as well as Corbyn's politics being stuck in 1983 it appears that much of the campaigning is. However, the choice I have is the dreadful Michael Fallon, the Tory Collaborators, the racist UKIP and the Greens who are even nuttier than Corbyn and voting is a public duty so I shall apply the clothes peg to my nose before going off to place my cross in its traditional box. I did once spoil my ballot paper when the choice was between the Tories and their Collaborators.
  • Labour for me. mine is a safe labour seat I believe.

    I will vote when I get back tonight. As mentioned, y'day, woken up disappointed since 2015 election. I fully expect to wake up tomorrow to find Jeremy Hunt has sent in the new Apple/Amazon hybrid Robocop prototype to round up all NHS workers on a big plane to be flown to Saudi Arabia to become migrant slaves.

    Then we can begin the dream of the GSK healthcare for Britain public/private partnership whereby you are only allowed to set foot in a hospital if you can prove income of £50,000 pa

    Rupert Murdoch will be constitutionally enshrined as the High Lord of Media and Communication, a role that supersedes any other executive role in the UK government.

    Google executives will then visit every household in the UK to tell you how your life will be played out and all houses in London and the south east will be a minimum £4m pounds in value for first time buyers, but market price for those in a chain
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    Any voting in Bermondsey and old Southwark? Got a couple of tories at the office voting Lib dem tactically as they might beat Labour as the tory's have no chance, anyone else tactically voting?!
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  • "Vote for us, because..."

    vs

    "Don't vote for them"

  • Referencing this:
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  • Last year during EU referendum someone tweeted something like:

    "Went to vote with my 90 year old blind nan. She asked loudly "which one for out". A big cheer went up from those waiting in line."

    A lot of people took the piss at the time. It's taking the mick out of that.
  • Last year during EU referendum someone tweeted something like:

    "Went to vote with my 90 year old blind nan. She asked loudly "which one for out". A big cheer went up from those waiting in line."

    A lot of people took the piss at the time. It's taking the mick out of that.
    Ahh. I get it now.

    Very good.
  • Rob7Lee said:

    Can't all be down to the Daily Mail and dementia surely?

    ;0)

    On a slightly serious note, I didn't bother looking, but my dads in a care home with late stage dementia, could he in theory have voted? Not that he could write an X on a piece of paper but I guess there is no law stopping his vote?
    If he's registered and can get himself to the polling station, yes. No bars on health grounds.
  • That's the average price of a house in my constituency....
  • Any voting in Bermondsey and old Southwark? Got a couple of tories at the office voting Lib dem tactically as they might beat Labour as the tory's have no chance, anyone else tactically voting?!

    Not specifically there but a few in the office similar in voting tactically to try & keep a party out. Let's hope it doesn't go viral or the lib dems will get in!!
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