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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • Well, on the walk back to my Mum's from Eltham station. Counted 13 Efford posters in house windows. None for any other party. Talk about shy Tories

    Then a gaggle of 4 young Tory canvassers pitched up so I took the opportunity to engage them:-) One claimed that as well as the social care floor of 100k, there will be a ceiling too ( i.e max anyone would pay). Thats news.

    But apart from that slip they were intelligent and good humoured and a credit to our democratic process.
  • cabbles said:

    That's the average price of a house in my constituency....

    Oh come on @cabbles stop being so negative will you. A couple of years of packed lunches and driving a banger instead of one of Golfies Jags instead, and you'll soon have that £120k deposit. It's easy innit and you'll only have a £500k mortgage to support after that.


    I'm part of the problem, not the solution.
  • Fiiish said:

    Two colleagues are chatting. One is a childless 50 year old woman and the other is a young dad with two kids. The woman who benefited from free tuition fees doesn't think the UK can afford to have free tuition. The fella who paid for his university is working overtime every week to put into savings because he doesn't want his children to have student debt like he has.

    But happy for Corbyn to rack up unquantified debt for his children to pay off.

    Because it's "costed" people actually believe the money will appear with no knock on consequences that mean they will be footing the bill anyway.

    The lack of joined up thinking is remarkable. The disregard of the risks voting for Corbyn presents, by the cohort of pro Corbyn voters who were hysterical about the risks of Brexit, is unexplainable.

    I would be quite happy for the votes of the next generation to decide the day in favour of Corbyn. I will get more money I don't need and they will be footing the bill long after I'm gone.

    If I was looking to vote in my best interests and believed in Santa Clause I would vote Labour, but I have more concern for the future of my children and grandchildren than to vote for Corbyn.
    Closing down a few hospitals should do the trick?
  • Fiiish said:

    Two colleagues are chatting. One is a childless 50 year old woman and the other is a young dad with two kids. The woman who benefited from free tuition fees doesn't think the UK can afford to have free tuition. The fella who paid for his university is working overtime every week to put into savings because he doesn't want his children to have student debt like he has.

    But happy for Corbyn to rack up unquantified debt for his children to pay off.

    Because it's "costed" people actually believe the money will appear with no knock on consequences that mean they will be footing the bill anyway.

    The lack of joined up thinking is remarkable. The disregard of the risks voting for Corbyn presents, by the cohort of pro Corbyn voters who were hysterical about the risks of Brexit, is unexplainable.

    I would be quite happy for the votes of the next generation to decide the day in favour of Corbyn. I will get more money I don't need and they will be footing the bill long after I'm gone.

    If I was looking to vote in my best interests and believed in Santa Clause I would vote Labour, but I have more concern for the future of my children and grandchildren than to vote for Corbyn.
    Not something you could accuse conservative voters of, as they have no policies or details to contemplate.
  • Well, on the walk back to my Mum's from Eltham station. Counted 13 Efford posters in house windows. None for any other party. Talk about shy Tories

    Then a gaggle of 4 young Tory canvassers pitched up so I took the opportunity to engage them:-) One claimed that as well as the social care floor of 100k, there will be a ceiling too ( i.e max anyone would pay). Thats news.

    But apart from that slip they were intelligent and good humoured and a credit to our democratic process.

    The ceiling was what they were going to bring in (about £80k?) but that was only the care element not the housing part. I'd assumed that had been scrapped in favour of the £100k floor.
  • Rob7Lee said:

    Well, on the walk back to my Mum's from Eltham station. Counted 13 Efford posters in house windows. None for any other party. Talk about shy Tories

    Then a gaggle of 4 young Tory canvassers pitched up so I took the opportunity to engage them:-) One claimed that as well as the social care floor of 100k, there will be a ceiling too ( i.e max anyone would pay). Thats news.

    But apart from that slip they were intelligent and good humoured and a credit to our democratic process.

    The ceiling was what they were going to bring in (about £80k?) but that was only the care element not the housing part. I'd assumed that had been scrapped in favour of the £100k floor.
    There's a floor and a ceiling.. however they're not entirely sure what the ceiling is going to be
  • In Strood my house is £206k and thats up £68k in five years

    I brought my house for £165k in April 2015 (Tory Government) - The last sale was for £164k in Dec 2007 (Labour), the oldest sale on record for Zoopla goes back to 1998 (also under Labour) was for £56k

    There's a massive difference between Kent and London unless the person who bought it before you had a bonfire in it?!
  • Rob7Lee said:

    Well, on the walk back to my Mum's from Eltham station. Counted 13 Efford posters in house windows. None for any other party. Talk about shy Tories

    Then a gaggle of 4 young Tory canvassers pitched up so I took the opportunity to engage them:-) One claimed that as well as the social care floor of 100k, there will be a ceiling too ( i.e max anyone would pay). Thats news.

    But apart from that slip they were intelligent and good humoured and a credit to our democratic process.

    The ceiling was what they were going to bring in (about £80k?) but that was only the care element not the housing part. I'd assumed that had been scrapped in favour of the £100k floor.
    There's a floor and a ceiling.. however they're not entirely sure what the ceiling is going to be
    Haven't you heard? We are going to tell them what it is in the green paper. ;)
  • Fiiish said:

    Two colleagues are chatting. One is a childless 50 year old woman and the other is a young dad with two kids. The woman who benefited from free tuition fees doesn't think the UK can afford to have free tuition. The fella who paid for his university is working overtime every week to put into savings because he doesn't want his children to have student debt like he has.

    But happy for Corbyn to rack up unquantified debt for his children to pay off.

    Because it's "costed" people actually believe the money will appear with no knock on consequences that mean they will be footing the bill anyway.

    The lack of joined up thinking is remarkable. The disregard of the risks voting for Corbyn presents, by the cohort of pro Corbyn voters who were hysterical about the risks of Brexit, is unexplainable.

    I would be quite happy for the votes of the next generation to decide the day in favour of Corbyn. I will get more money I don't need and they will be footing the bill long after I'm gone.

    If I was looking to vote in my best interests and believed in Santa Clause I would vote Labour, but I have more concern for the future of my children and grandchildren than to vote for Corbyn.
    A large bloc of people aren't thinking ahead because so many are desperate. It's an easy sell to convince people with nothing to max out the credit card today with no care for tomorrow. Our economy is basically a huge people farm set up to milk the plebs and if my circumstances were different I'd jump at anyone offering an alternative too. Corbyn, Trump, Brexit are all signs that the status quo is fraying but I don't think any of the parties have a workable solution which is why I still haven't decided how/whether to vote.
  • I know he is not eveyone's cup of tea, but he as sharp and eloquent a young man as I have seen, I found what he has said here stirring.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GscdUNyzN9U&t=6s
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  • I know he is not eveyone's cup of tea, but he as sharp and eloquent a young man as I have seen, I found what he has said here stirring.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GscdUNyzN9U&t=6s

    I thought he didn't want anyone to vote?
  • Does anyone have any interesting parties to vote for on their balot paper?

    In Rochester & Strood I've got the "Christian People's Alliance" as an option - Not sure whether to vote for them though because their Party Leader doesnt often have much to talk about
  • I know he is not eveyone's cup of tea, but he as sharp and eloquent a young man as I have seen, I found what he has said here stirring.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GscdUNyzN9U&t=6s

    Has he registered to vote himself this time or is he still advocating people shouldn't vote?
  • watch it - he explains right at the beginning - he was advocating before Corbyn, not any more.
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    West Tyrone has the "Citizens' Independent Social Thought Alliance", a rewording of the earlier name "Cannabis is Safer Than Alcohol".

    He did surprisingly well last time, finsihing third last (on 528 votes), above a completely bonkers fundamentalist (with the emphasis on mental)) Christian independent and the Conservative candidate (deserving of some kind of bravery award), the sacrificial lamb in David Cameron's cunning plan to field candidates in every part of the UK.

    This time around (with not Tory or independent), he'll have to do well to garner enough votes (roughly an additional 200) to threaten the Green Party candidate with last place.
  • watch it - he explains right at the beginning - he was advocating before Corbyn, not any more.

    Sounds like a classic flip floppy politician with zero principles.
  • And seeing as this has been censored by the BBC, we can ensure it is not censored on Charlton Life.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxN1STgQXW8
  • Well, on the walk back to my Mum's from Eltham station. Counted 13 Efford posters in house windows. None for any other party. Talk about shy Tories

    Then a gaggle of 4 young Tory canvassers pitched up so I took the opportunity to engage them:-) One claimed that as well as the social care floor of 100k, there will be a ceiling too ( i.e max anyone would pay). Thats news.

    But apart from that slip they were intelligent and good humoured and a credit to our democratic process.

    see that's what I can't work out about the Tory party. I'm sure there are some idealistic good natured people at grass roots, council and MP level. Then, when they get near that inner rectum and are exposed to May, Johnson etc, it's like a black hole sucking all the goodness out of them
  • Fiiish said:

    Two colleagues are chatting. One is a childless 50 year old woman and the other is a young dad with two kids. The woman who benefited from free tuition fees doesn't think the UK can afford to have free tuition. The fella who paid for his university is working overtime every week to put into savings because he doesn't want his children to have student debt like he has.

    But happy for Corbyn to rack up unquantified debt for his children to pay off.

    Because it's "costed" people actually believe the money will appear with no knock on consequences that mean they will be footing the bill anyway.

    The lack of joined up thinking is remarkable. The disregard of the risks voting for Corbyn presents, by the cohort of pro Corbyn voters who were hysterical about the risks of Brexit, is unexplainable.

    I would be quite happy for the votes of the next generation to decide the day in favour of Corbyn. I will get more money I don't need and they will be footing the bill long after I'm gone.

    If I was looking to vote in my best interests and believed in Santa Clause I would vote Labour, but I have more concern for the future of my children and grandchildren than to vote for Corbyn.
    Again I see this silly equation of household finances with those of a national state. But, to use the metaphor to make a point, I am eternally grateful that during most of my working life a good proportion of my taxes was to pay off the debt passed down to me by my forebears incurred in the construction of roads, hospitals, schools, universities etc and the education of its population in the 40s, 50s and 60s.This capital expenditure facilitated the growth and support of one the most successful economies over the last 50 years. In fact I wish they had passed down a bigger debt to me and built more roads and more hospitals and more schools and more universities because the cost of building these things today is very expensive in comparison with the debt my taxes have being paying off.
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  • you should have reported them
  • I have to say it is irksome being told by everyone on social media which way to vote.

    The message should be - Get out and vote for what YOU think is best.

    p.s I still don't like the idea of Corbyn or May as PM can you tell?
  • If you are young and haven't voted- get out now and do so. It is your world, your future, not ours.
  • If you are young and haven't voted- get out now and do so. It is your world, your future, not ours.

    Bit late to be saying this if said young people havent registered (and I work with some in this situation)
  • Very loud and always entertaining man in my polling station, "Where's that Screaming Lord Such, I want to vote for his Looney Party? Are they on this ballot paper? Oh yes, I see they've changed their name to Liberal Democrats...
  • Or if your young please vote as you will probably vote labour

    Until you start earning money and have a family to look after
  • Just EVERYONE get out and vote.

    I don't care who you're voting for.
  • If you are young and haven't voted- get out now and do so. It is your world, your future, not ours.

    By that logic, if you're old and haven't voted - stay home and don't bother as it's none of your concern really.
    The old always vote - they don't need to be told - the young need to find their voice or they will always get the shitty end of the stick.
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