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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • edited June 2017
    If the Tories don't win outright, does that mean I have the right to belittle people for voting the wrong way and smash eggs over Labour politians?
  • aliwibble said:

    For those that haven't voted yet; if you are in doubt about the Tories privatising the NHS I've just been victim to it, well not me but my son. The wheelchair services from the hospital has been taken over by a private company and they say that he doesn't fit their criteria and want the chair back that I've had for 5 years. I told them the hospital gave it to me and I will return to them if they ask for it. Just because I needed a repair, this is awful and I'm fuming, I have tried him without the chair numerously and it doesn't work this will mean we can do nothing until I find the money to buy one.

    This isn't the only service to be privatised and very soon it will be everything, if you haven't voted yet please go and vote Labour, go and save our NHS. PLEASE!

    Sadie, don't give the chair up without a fight. As soon as the election is over, write to your MP explaining the situation, and asking them to intercede on your behalf.
    My current MP is a @&££)r don't give a toss, if the labour one wins I know he'll try and help.
  • aliwibble said:

    It's the hope that kills you.

    Agreed. I pay no attention to it. As I said, I wake up disappointed
  • Would libs want to go in a coalition with the Tories?

    Just discussed that possibility on the Beeb. They said it surely can't happen because of their incompatible views on Brexit.
  • se9addick said:

    Not sure why people are getting excited over the exit poll results.

    Unfortunately I still expect a Tory majority and a bigger one than they have now.

    Because exit polls in general elections are pretty reliable. Tbh I'm not that surprised, the last couple of weeks it has really shifted, in terms of positive labour press, polls and the general feeling.
  • If the Tories don't win outright, does that mean I have the right to belittle people for voting the wrong way and smash eggs over Labour politians?

    Yeah why not. And then we have the right to call you a numpty. ;-)
  • Would libs want to go in a coalition with the Tories?

    No surely the only parties that would join the Tories would be the Unionist parties in NI
  • edited June 2017

    I don't believe it, not as in shocked joy but that I still think it's a bit low for Conservative. Are there any parties that they could conceivably go with to go over the 326? Surely Lib Dems are too far apart now and wouldn't do that again.

    Impossible for Lib Dems to form a coalition with the Government given Brexit positions. BBC saying Amber Rudd in trouble in Hastings - god this could be big -but early days.
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  • colthe3rd said:

    se9addick said:

    Not sure why people are getting excited over the exit poll results.

    Unfortunately I still expect a Tory majority and a bigger one than they have now.

    Because exit polls in general elections are pretty reliable. Tbh I'm not that surprised, the last couple of weeks it has really shifted, in terms of positive labour press, polls and the general feeling.
    Agreed.

    Bet Corbyn is shitting himself now.

    I know I am.
  • Fuck me!
    Glad I had a sleep this afternoon, it is going to be quite a night.
    I think it is fair to say a 75 seat majority isn't going to happen.
  • edited June 2017
    Exit poll says Croydon Central 51/42 to Labour

    Bolton West 54/43 to Labour

    Bedford flips from 43/40 to 53/43 Labour
  • If that exit poll is correct then British politics will be changed forever.

    That would be a genuinely historic result where a socialist Labour Party has tipped an incumbent government out of power - that is incredible.

    If it is correct then the Prime Minister has no option but to resign - she cannot possibly stay in the job after that result.

    It would also mean that the Labour Party would be confirmed as a left-wing socialist party for a generation to come, the moderate wing of the party would be dead in the water.

    Pretty bloody amazing if it turns out to be correct.

    It truly is a historical day.

    Pass the vodka comrade.
  • Still expect a Conservative majority, but if it is a Conservative minority government, I think that would be good for the EU negotiations.

  • Laura Kuenssberg looking very sexy tonight.
  • Last time SD saw an Exit Poll:

    Predicted a Hilary Clinton win by 4-5 points. Predicted roughly 320 in the Electoral College.

    I missed like 1,500 posts in this thread because my country seems to slowly be falling apart at the top. Did anyone discuss what pollsters in the UK were doing, or how far apart they were? FiveThirtyEight did some really interesting stuff on this--talking about how the "raw numbers" were around Tories +5, but that pollsters were then adjusting those numbers to varying degrees with Tories averaging around +9. This was based on the fact that Tories "always outperform their numbers," even though Nate Silver made the case that it is easy to over-correct for something like that, and correcting for the previous election can be hugely problematic.

    If the exist polls hold true (big if, but if I remember correctly exit polls in the UK tend to be better than polls beforehand) then that would mean that the "raw numbers" were about right.
  • Interesting exit poll...... just over 30k people I read , can someone explain how on earth they come up with these predictions on 600+ seats with that many respondents....... we're in for an interesting night, if true I guess that means the SNP haven't done great......
  • It's worth looking at the widely panned (including by me) YouGov model which predicted a Hung Parliament

    https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2017/

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  • If the Tories don't win outright, does that mean I have the right to belittle people for voting the wrong way and smash eggs over Labour politians?

    Yes
  • Might have to throw an all nighter now. Triffic Exit Poll excitement
  • McBobbin said:

    My prediction of a hung parliament was correct.

    I think my prediction of May going will be correct.

    I think the prediction of a Lab minority gov will be correct.

    I think we will be back here in a year!

    Surely a Tory minority government?
    I wouldn't want that. May has to go if this is correct as she hasn't done what she set out to do.

    Frankly we don't have a clear choice for the country. We will have total division, the U.K. will be broken in half.

    Watching the coalition builder and every option is shit.

    Based on the figures the progressive alliance won't get there so McBobbins post could be right
  • If the Tories don't win outright, does that mean I have the right to belittle people for voting the wrong way and smash eggs over Labour politians?

    I vote Labour. Come and do it to me! I live in St Truiden with a weird bloke called Duchatalet.
  • SDAddick said:

    Last time SD saw an Exit Poll:

    Predicted a Hilary Clinton win by 4-5 points. Predicted roughly 320 in the Electoral College.

    I missed like 1,500 posts in this thread because my country seems to slowly be falling apart at the top. Did anyone discuss what pollsters in the UK were doing, or how far apart they were? FiveThirtyEight did some really interesting stuff on this--talking about how the "raw numbers" were around Tories +5, but that pollsters were then adjusting those numbers to varying degrees with Tories averaging around +9. This was based on the fact that Tories "always outperform their numbers," even though Nate Silver made the case that it is easy to over-correct for something like that, and correcting for the previous election can be hugely problematic.

    If the exist polls hold true (big if, but if I remember correctly exit polls in the UK tend to be better than polls beforehand) then that would mean that the "raw numbers" were about right.

    It isn't, I'm half way through season 5 of house of cards. The Underwoods are superb
  • edited June 2017
    Think if that exit poll is correct it's a disaster for both sides.

    Tories don't have a majority and won't have enough DUP or anyone else to form a coalition. Doubt lib dems will go with them again after last time and with credit being a contentious issue.

    Labour won't have enough for a coalition even if lib dems green and SNP join.

    How the hell are we him a have a government?

    Minority government? Could be interesting.

    Of course the exit poll could be way off in terms of seats. Although is usually pretty accurate in terms of overall vote.
  • edited June 2017
    Ok excitement tempered somewhat:

    exit poll in 2015 predicted 316 Tory seats and they ended up with 330.
    exit poll in 2017 predicts 314 Tory seats and they get....

    Something does feel different this time... but trying to bring myself back down to earth before any results are announced.
  • I am so excited about the Sunderland v Newcastle race. Look at them all running around.
  • IA said:

    I am so excited about the Sunderland v Newcastle race. Look at them all running around.

    It's always the highlight of the evening for me!
  • Rob7Lee said:

    Interesting exit poll...... just over 30k people I read , can someone explain how on earth they come up with these predictions on 600+ seats with that many respondents....... we're in for an interesting night, if true I guess that means the SNP haven't done great......

    They poll people in the marginal seats basically. 30k in a poll is a big sample size and assuming no massive shock seat moves then it's likely to be pretty accurate.
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