Gonna stick my neck out and comment on something I probably shouldn't here. From years of watching US elections, don't just watch the early margins, look at the turnout (and I know I'm preaching to the choir here). Turnout in early reporting precincts can be a better indicator given that neither of these were considered up for grabs.
Given the 70 odd seats that are being listed as too close to call (some of which really don't look that close at all), I think a hung Parliament is highly unlikely. The question is whether the shy tory effect is going to be big enough to make a significant difference to the Tory majority. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373
I'm just going to enjoy the pundits trying to work out WTF is going on for the next few hours.
The assumption that UKIP voters go to the Tories I think is flawed. They took plenty of votes of labour last time round. It's possible those people are going back to Labour.
Before we go any further, can we just check that everyone took their own Sharpie pen into the ballot box with them? Can't trust those at the count with just pencil marks you know...
I'm watching itv because bless, they have a man just roaming around a set full of people sat at desks. It's such an odd combination of old school and new school. The coverage isn't great but I just enjoy this Mr. Rogers-esque journey.
The assumption that UKIP voters go to the Tories I think is flawed. They took plenty of votes of labour last time round. It's possible those people are going back to Labour.
Would people who voted for such a pro Brexit party go back to such a soft (comparatively) Brexit option in Labour?
Absolutely no way of dismissing the popularity on the ground for Corbyn (nor the ineffectiveness of May / Tory campaign).
Do generally wonder if a lot of those people voting for Corbyn don't really have a clue what they are actually voting for because a socialist labour government (with a top table governance of Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott) doesn't feel very 2017 to me.
And a hung parliament is a disaster for everyone imo
Exit poll is wrong but it won't be enough to save Theresa May.
Conservative majority but smaller than it was.
I'd take that to be quite honest.
Who the fuck puts fox hunting in the manifesto in 2017? Someone with their head up their ass, and expecting a stroll in the park - that's who.
If the 'UKIP vote going to the Conservatives' holds up, it's going to be a very bad night.
Hopefully the country is more like Newcastle than Sunderland.
You've got to remember your talking to a Tory, I can think of worse things than nabbing the UKIP vote..
Jokes aside, I have no faith in May as a leader; a reduction in the Tory majority will finally get her bundled in a taxi and out of the picture. I think she wants to see herself as a Thatcher figure, something that she's neither capable of, nor does the country want.
I'd gladly see the Tories scrape through, with a thorough embarrassment for May.
The assumption that UKIP voters go to the Tories I think is flawed. They took plenty of votes of labour last time round. It's possible those people are going back to Labour.
Would people who voted for such a pro Brexit party go back to such a soft (comparatively) Brexit option in Labour?
Just all goes to show Brexit is a fucking farce.
Yes. For many people UKIP was don't an anti establishment option that showed their disaffection with the system. Those people come from all party alliegences.
Absolutely no way of dismissing the popularity on the ground for Corbyn (nor the ineffectiveness of May / Tory campaign).
Do generally wonder if a lot of those people voting for Corbyn don't really have a clue what they are actually voting for because a socialist labour government (with a top table governance of Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott) doesn't feel very 2017 to me.
And a hung parliament is a disaster for everyone imo
Absolutely no way of dismissing the popularity on the ground for Corbyn (nor the ineffectiveness of May / Tory campaign).
Do generally wonder if a lot of those people voting for Corbyn don't really have a clue what they are actually voting for because a socialist labour government (with a top table governance of Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott) doesn't feel very 2017 to me.
And a hung parliament is a disaster for everyone imo
Agree. But I think it is also the case a lot of people voted for Brexit who did not have a clue what they were voting for.
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Just my two cents.
Swing to Conservatives in Leave voting Houghton & Sunderland South
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373
I'm just going to enjoy the pundits trying to work out WTF is going on for the next few hours.
Just all goes to show Brexit is a fucking farce.
Not sure if this is a real quote from Dimbleby, but made me laugh anyway.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1HLS9XoAANoHl.jpg
Still can't see the Tory majority that justifies this election.
Jokes aside, I have no faith in May as a leader; a reduction in the Tory majority will finally get her bundled in a taxi and out of the picture. I think she wants to see herself as a Thatcher figure, something that she's neither capable of, nor does the country want.
I'd gladly see the Tories scrape through, with a thorough embarrassment for May.
Theresa probably not feeling too confident....
How have the foxes voted?