322 enough to save Theresa's ass if DUP save the day.
May is toast. Nothing will save her - save the Tories maybe.
Honestly Corbyn would be wise to stay out of this. Tories would be in a mess internally and he has a head of steam. Wait 12 months and he could get a majority.
Go now and he risks ruining it for himself as he couldn't get any of the policies through that people voted for.
She's deadmeat. She'll resign first thing in the morning.
@cantersaddick What do you think she'll resign *from* in the morning? She's Tory party leader and she's Prime Minister. She can quit as party leader whenever she likes, but there has to be a replacement lined up as PM. I'd be interested to know what you think.
Sorry. To use the correct terninology. I think she will resign as party leaser in the morning and start the process of the party electing a new leader who will then take over as prime minister. Happy?
Hey! Forget terminology! I was just curious as to which of the two roles she might give up. In that scenario, she'd be where Cameron intended to be when he quit as leader last year, only to find they sped up the process for find the new party leader.
It's interesting times. If the numbers look like what the forecasts are saying, I think you're probably spot on. Amazing though, to be in that state, ten days before Brexit negotiations start.
History will always judge Clegg unfairly but we have no idea what would have happened if he didn't form a coalition. Too bad he botched electoral reform and Lords reform, he should have done better holding his own government to account, but what was he meant to do? Labour had already shat the bed.
Not Farage's biggest mate, but his observations on Corbyn and May are spot on. May was wooden and very much part of the establishment, and Corbyn was passionate and a decent/friendly man.
Yeah he said this hours ago on the BBC. He made a good point. For all that I dislike him, he does know a thing or two about making appearances
Agree.
If Nigel is congratulating you on using personality in an election, then it's quite a worthy compliment IMO. Farage's biggest asset was his marmite persona, you either hated him or loved him - but people seemed to do either in the extreme.
Not Farage's biggest mate, but his observations on Corbyn and May are spot on. May was wooden and very much part of the establishment, and Corbyn was passionate and a decent/friendly man.
Yeah he said this hours ago on the BBC. He made a good point. For all that I dislike him, he does know a thing or two about making appearances
Agree.
If Nigel is congratulating you on using personality in an election, then it's quite a worthy compliment IMO. Farage's biggest asset was his marmite persona, you either hated him or loved him - but people seemed to do either in the extreme.
322 enough to save Theresa's ass if DUP save the day.
May is toast. Nothing will save her - save the Tories maybe.
Honestly Corbyn would be wise to stay out of this. Tories would be in a mess internally and he has a head of steam. Wait 12 months and he could get a majority.
Go now and he risks ruining it for himself as he couldn't get any of the policies through that people voted for.
She's deadmeat. She'll resign first thing in the morning.
@cantersaddick What do you think she'll resign *from* in the morning? She's Tory party leader and she's Prime Minister. She can quit as party leader whenever she likes, but there has to be a replacement lined up as PM. I'd be interested to know what you think.
Sorry. To use the correct terninology. I think she will resign as party leaser in the morning and start the process of the party electing a new leader who will then take over as prime minister. Happy?
Hey! Forget terminology! I was just curious as to which of the two roles she might give up. In that scenario, she'd be where Cameron intended to be when he quit as leader last year, only to find they sped up the process for find the new party leader.
It's interesting times. If the numbers look like what the forecasts are saying, I think you're probably spot on. Amazing though, to be in that state, ten days before Brexit negotiations start.
Indeed. I think no matter what happens now I think that the news if timeline will be pushed back by 6 months plus while the country sorts itself out and probably has ANOTHER election!
I have said all along that whatever happens, it doesn't change the way I go about my life. If my taxes go up under Corbyn I will still sit in the office until 10pm every night and push for the next promotion for my kids.
And you could have the most right wing Tory party ever and it wouldn't prevent me showing tolerance and respect to all individuals regardless of race or religion. Not effect what I give to charities. I don't need a government to dictate that.
I therefore am enjoying seeing the democratic process play out.
Yes it hasn't played out as I wanted - but I would rather the Tories had 322 seats than 260 odd which is where Labour are. It's all in the stability of the various minorities / coalitions on offer.
Clearly the Tories need reform and I look forward to seeing where that goes.
No offence, but I think your kids would prefer to see their dad.
You don't think I know that every day I am there.
My 8 year old also likes the fact that he has been to Disneyland in California 10 times and it will be 11 this summer.
Never mind the trust fund I pay into every month for 2 of them
Stuff doesn't come for free.
If my tax goes up, then i need to work much harder to make the difference up back to them
No, it doesn't, But trust funds and annual holidays to Disneyland are something only a tiny proportion of kids in this country get. If your tax goes up then I'm sure your kids will survive without seeing Goofy one year, 99% of other kids manage to get by fine.
Imagine getting beaten by the Monster Raving Loony Party.. Poor ol' Bill Martin, Andres Mendoza, and Cameron-Blackie.
I very nearly debated running in my constituency as a candidate under the MRLP this year; alas there wasn't enough time to really plan something properly stupid.
History will always judge Clegg unfairly but we have no idea what would have happened if he didn't form a coalition. Too bad he botched electoral reform and Lords reform, he should have done better holding his own government to account, but what was he meant to do? Labour had already shat the bed.
He fell in to one of the great political traps. They offered the most socially progressive manifesto of that election out of the main parties and then propped up the most regressive government. Some of their voters were always going to feel betrayed.
I like him and think he talks a lot of sense, but I can never forgive him. Agree it was a very good concession speech.
Not Farage's biggest mate, but his observations on Corbyn and May are spot on. May was wooden and very much part of the establishment, and Corbyn was passionate and a decent/friendly man.
Yeah he said this hours ago on the BBC. He made a good point. For all that I dislike him, he does know a thing or two about making appearances
Agree.
If Nigel is congratulating you on using personality in an election, then it's quite a worthy compliment IMO. Farage's biggest asset was his marmite persona, you either hated him or loved him - but people seemed to do either in the extreme.
The second half of this speech really shows why he's done so well. What I wouldn't give for a Democrat who is both that leftist (will never happen) and that passionate (okay, more than the two currently there--Warren and Bernie).
And also, having the Monster Raving Loony Party bloke in the background is BRILLIANT.
I have said all along that whatever happens, it doesn't change the way I go about my life. If my taxes go up under Corbyn I will still sit in the office until 10pm every night and push for the next promotion for my kids.
And you could have the most right wing Tory party ever and it wouldn't prevent me showing tolerance and respect to all individuals regardless of race or religion. Not effect what I give to charities. I don't need a government to dictate that.
I therefore am enjoying seeing the democratic process play out.
Yes it hasn't played out as I wanted - but I would rather the Tories had 322 seats than 260 odd which is where Labour are. It's all in the stability of the various minorities / coalitions on offer.
Clearly the Tories need reform and I look forward to seeing where that goes.
No offence, but I think your kids would prefer to see their dad.
You don't think I know that every day I am there.
My 8 year old also likes the fact that he has been to Disneyland in California 10 times and it will be 11 this summer.
Never mind the trust fund I pay into every month for 2 of them
Stuff doesn't come for free.
If my tax goes up, then i need to work much harder to make the difference up back to them
No, it doesn't, But trust funds and annual holidays to Disneyland are something only a tiny proportion of kids in this country get. If your tax goes up then I'm sure your kids will survive without seeing Goofy one year, 99% of other kids manage to get by fine.
I am saying I will work harder and put more into it to make up the difference. Probably paying more tax into the system in the process.
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(Well, the lost Clacton - their only seat; thoroughly destroyed though. 3,300 vs 11,000 and 27,000.)
It's interesting times. If the numbers look like what the forecasts are saying, I think you're probably spot on. Amazing though, to be in that state, ten days before Brexit negotiations start.
If Nigel is congratulating you on using personality in an election, then it's quite a worthy compliment IMO. Farage's biggest asset was his marmite persona, you either hated him or loved him - but people seemed to do either in the extreme.
There's no denying he's a character.
...'For the Good guy'... 'Small-fry'...fighting back against the big fella, status quo bully.
We fought...and we won the day!
Viva CAFC! Viva Socialism!
The man that wrote the Tory manifesto!
I very nearly debated running in my constituency as a candidate under the MRLP this year; alas there wasn't enough time to really plan something properly stupid.
I like him and think he talks a lot of sense, but I can never forgive him. Agree it was a very good concession speech.
They became quite the chums too didn't they?
And also, having the Monster Raving Loony Party bloke in the background is BRILLIANT.
So doing everything.