The General Election - June 8th 2017
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UKIP WWWWWWIPEOUT.
(Well, the lost Clacton - their only seat; thoroughly destroyed though. 3,300 vs 11,000 and 27,000.)2 -
Sky will have it on PPV soon.seth plum said:Politics isn't boring today.
Lets have another election soon.7 -
Hey! Forget terminology! I was just curious as to which of the two roles she might give up. In that scenario, she'd be where Cameron intended to be when he quit as leader last year, only to find they sped up the process for find the new party leader.cantersaddick said:
Sorry. To use the correct terninology. I think she will resign as party leaser in the morning and start the process of the party electing a new leader who will then take over as prime minister. Happy?Chizz said:
@cantersaddick What do you think she'll resign *from* in the morning? She's Tory party leader and she's Prime Minister. She can quit as party leader whenever she likes, but there has to be a replacement lined up as PM. I'd be interested to know what you think.cantersaddick said:
She's deadmeat. She'll resign first thing in the morning.DamoNorthStand said:
May is toast. Nothing will save her - save the Tories maybe.cafcpolo said:322 enough to save Theresa's ass if DUP save the day.
Honestly Corbyn would be wise to stay out of this. Tories would be in a mess internally and he has a head of steam. Wait 12 months and he could get a majority.
Go now and he risks ruining it for himself as he couldn't get any of the policies through that people voted for.
It's interesting times. If the numbers look like what the forecasts are saying, I think you're probably spot on. Amazing though, to be in that state, ten days before Brexit negotiations start.1 -
History will always judge Clegg unfairly but we have no idea what would have happened if he didn't form a coalition. Too bad he botched electoral reform and Lords reform, he should have done better holding his own government to account, but what was he meant to do? Labour had already shat the bed.2
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Agree.Leuth said:
Yeah he said this hours ago on the BBC. He made a good point. For all that I dislike him, he does know a thing or two about making appearancesLuckyReds said:Geez, ol' Nigel is making some sense on Sky News.
Not Farage's biggest mate, but his observations on Corbyn and May are spot on. May was wooden and very much part of the establishment, and Corbyn was passionate and a decent/friendly man.
If Nigel is congratulating you on using personality in an election, then it's quite a worthy compliment IMO. Farage's biggest asset was his marmite persona, you either hated him or loved him - but people seemed to do either in the extreme.
There's no denying he's a character.2 -
Conservative hold Isle of Wight. Surprised by that, I had heard it was expected to fall.0
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This election night reminds me of the play-offs v Leeds('87) and Chelsea ('88).
...'For the Good guy'... 'Small-fry'...fighting back against the big fella, status quo bully.
We fought...and we won the day!
Viva CAFC! Viva Socialism!1 -
See also: Trump, Donald.LuckyReds said:
Agree.Leuth said:
Yeah he said this hours ago on the BBC. He made a good point. For all that I dislike him, he does know a thing or two about making appearancesLuckyReds said:Geez, ol' Nigel is making some sense on Sky News.
Not Farage's biggest mate, but his observations on Corbyn and May are spot on. May was wooden and very much part of the establishment, and Corbyn was passionate and a decent/friendly man.
If Nigel is congratulating you on using personality in an election, then it's quite a worthy compliment IMO. Farage's biggest asset was his marmite persona, you either hated him or loved him - but people seemed to do either in the extreme.
There's no denying he's a character.1 - Sponsored links:
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Ben Gummer! Hahahahahaha!
The man that wrote the Tory manifesto!6 -
Indeed. I think no matter what happens now I think that the news if timeline will be pushed back by 6 months plus while the country sorts itself out and probably has ANOTHER election!Chizz said:
Hey! Forget terminology! I was just curious as to which of the two roles she might give up. In that scenario, she'd be where Cameron intended to be when he quit as leader last year, only to find they sped up the process for find the new party leader.cantersaddick said:
Sorry. To use the correct terninology. I think she will resign as party leaser in the morning and start the process of the party electing a new leader who will then take over as prime minister. Happy?Chizz said:
@cantersaddick What do you think she'll resign *from* in the morning? She's Tory party leader and she's Prime Minister. She can quit as party leader whenever she likes, but there has to be a replacement lined up as PM. I'd be interested to know what you think.cantersaddick said:
She's deadmeat. She'll resign first thing in the morning.DamoNorthStand said:
May is toast. Nothing will save her - save the Tories maybe.cafcpolo said:322 enough to save Theresa's ass if DUP save the day.
Honestly Corbyn would be wise to stay out of this. Tories would be in a mess internally and he has a head of steam. Wait 12 months and he could get a majority.
Go now and he risks ruining it for himself as he couldn't get any of the policies through that people voted for.
It's interesting times. If the numbers look like what the forecasts are saying, I think you're probably spot on. Amazing though, to be in that state, ten days before Brexit negotiations start.1 -
Labour have gained Stroud4
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Some quality characters running in Islington. Credit to the socialist party bloke who laughed at his own 21 votes.5
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LAB GAIN Bristol North West4
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No, it doesn't, But trust funds and annual holidays to Disneyland are something only a tiny proportion of kids in this country get. If your tax goes up then I'm sure your kids will survive without seeing Goofy one year, 99% of other kids manage to get by fine.DamoNorthStand said:
You don't think I know that every day I am there.Covered End said:
No offence, but I think your kids would prefer to see their dad.DamoNorthStand said:I have said all along that whatever happens, it doesn't change the way I go about my life. If my taxes go up under Corbyn I will still sit in the office until 10pm every night and push for the next promotion for my kids.
And you could have the most right wing Tory party ever and it wouldn't prevent me showing tolerance and respect to all individuals regardless of race or religion. Not effect what I give to charities. I don't need a government to dictate that.
I therefore am enjoying seeing the democratic process play out.
Yes it hasn't played out as I wanted - but I would rather the Tories had 322 seats than 260 odd which is where Labour are. It's all in the stability of the various minorities / coalitions on offer.
Clearly the Tories need reform and I look forward to seeing where that goes.
My 8 year old also likes the fact that he has been to Disneyland in California 10 times and it will be 11 this summer.
Never mind the trust fund I pay into every month for 2 of them
Stuff doesn't come for free.
If my tax goes up, then i need to work much harder to make the difference up back to them0 -
Imagine getting beaten by the Monster Raving Loony Party.. Poor ol' Bill Martin, Andres Mendoza, and Cameron-Blackie.
I very nearly debated running in my constituency as a candidate under the MRLP this year; alas there wasn't enough time to really plan something properly stupid.2 -
The Islington North declaration is pure entertainment.5
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He fell in to one of the great political traps. They offered the most socially progressive manifesto of that election out of the main parties and then propped up the most regressive government. Some of their voters were always going to feel betrayed.Fiiish said:History will always judge Clegg unfairly but we have no idea what would have happened if he didn't form a coalition. Too bad he botched electoral reform and Lords reform, he should have done better holding his own government to account, but what was he meant to do? Labour had already shat the bed.
I like him and think he talks a lot of sense, but I can never forgive him. Agree it was a very good concession speech.2 -
Bit stupid for the socialist party to put someone up against Corbyn and not elsewhere?!SDAddick said:Some quality characters running in Islington. Credit to the socialist party bloke who laughed at his own 21 votes.
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That is qualityCallumcafc said:1 -
Of course, how could I forget.SDAddick said:
See also: Trump, Donald.LuckyReds said:
Agree.Leuth said:
Yeah he said this hours ago on the BBC. He made a good point. For all that I dislike him, he does know a thing or two about making appearancesLuckyReds said:Geez, ol' Nigel is making some sense on Sky News.
Not Farage's biggest mate, but his observations on Corbyn and May are spot on. May was wooden and very much part of the establishment, and Corbyn was passionate and a decent/friendly man.
If Nigel is congratulating you on using personality in an election, then it's quite a worthy compliment IMO. Farage's biggest asset was his marmite persona, you either hated him or loved him - but people seemed to do either in the extreme.
There's no denying he's a character.
They became quite the chums too didn't they?0 -
Gonna go out on a limb and say that, looking at the bloke, he might have done it on a drunken bet...cantersaddick said:
Bit stupid for the socialist party to put someone up against Corbyn and not elsewhere?!SDAddick said:Some quality characters running in Islington. Credit to the socialist party bloke who laughed at his own 21 votes.
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UKIP guy looking over Jezzas shoulder looks angry!0
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The second half of this speech really shows why he's done so well. What I wouldn't give for a Democrat who is both that leftist (will never happen) and that passionate (okay, more than the two currently there--Warren and Bernie).
And also, having the Monster Raving Loony Party bloke in the background is BRILLIANT.6 -
May at the result in Maidenhead.0
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Glad to see we have their support even if it does play to the Tory narrative!SDAddick said:The second half of this speech really shows why he's done so well.
And also, having the Monster Raving Loony Party bloke in the background is BRILLIANT.1 -
I am saying I will work harder and put more into it to make up the difference. Probably paying more tax into the system in the process.Fiiish said:
No, it doesn't, But trust funds and annual holidays to Disneyland are something only a tiny proportion of kids in this country get. If your tax goes up then I'm sure your kids will survive without seeing Goofy one year, 99% of other kids manage to get by fine.DamoNorthStand said:
You don't think I know that every day I am there.Covered End said:
No offence, but I think your kids would prefer to see their dad.DamoNorthStand said:I have said all along that whatever happens, it doesn't change the way I go about my life. If my taxes go up under Corbyn I will still sit in the office until 10pm every night and push for the next promotion for my kids.
And you could have the most right wing Tory party ever and it wouldn't prevent me showing tolerance and respect to all individuals regardless of race or religion. Not effect what I give to charities. I don't need a government to dictate that.
I therefore am enjoying seeing the democratic process play out.
Yes it hasn't played out as I wanted - but I would rather the Tories had 322 seats than 260 odd which is where Labour are. It's all in the stability of the various minorities / coalitions on offer.
Clearly the Tories need reform and I look forward to seeing where that goes.
My 8 year old also likes the fact that he has been to Disneyland in California 10 times and it will be 11 this summer.
Never mind the trust fund I pay into every month for 2 of them
Stuff doesn't come for free.
If my tax goes up, then i need to work much harder to make the difference up back to them
So doing everything.0 -
May looks like she knows she has had it.2
