Lots of Labour MPs with slightly red faces this morning after trying to run Corbyn out of town, turns out he's the most "electable" leader the party have had in a decade !
Shows how far the party had fallen when 265 odd seats gives him that tag. It's easy to forget that's still miles from a majority - and the sort of figures Blair was bringing in.
Lots of Labour MPs with slightly red faces this morning after trying to run Corbyn out of town, turns out he's the most "electable" leader the party have had in a decade !
Shows how far the party had fallen when 265 odd seats gives him that tag. It's easy to forget that's still miles from a majority - and the sort of figures Blair was bringing in.
Shows how shit our electoral system is with 40% of the vote.
Lots of Labour MPs with slightly red faces this morning after trying to run Corbyn out of town, turns out he's the most "electable" leader the party have had in a decade !
Shows how far the party had fallen when 265 odd seats gives him that tag. It's easy to forget that's still miles from a majority - and the sort of figures Blair was bringing in.
Would you bet against him getting those extra 50 or so seats he needs in the second election that's blatantly coming our way shortly ?
I've realised that I actually dislike most of the big Tory names. There hasn't been one seat I've seen that I haven't thought "meh, wouldn't give a crap - don't like them that much.".
A larger NI contingent in the government may introduce a more thoughtful Brexit negotiation with regards to border control, perhaps?
If anything, I think it could lessen it to be honest. It might have been likely if it was the UUP. The DUP are quite hardline Brexit, and it is not uncommon to hear their members say that the answer is for Ireland to leave the EU as well.
It would be interesting to see what the views of MPs in general will be - the proportion of anti-EU MPs may be greater. There's not a lot of time before negotiations begin.
The two worst outcomes for May, other than losing, were either a massive majority (where arty discipline suffers) or a slim lead (leading to reliance on the bonkers backbenchers).
Far from being the heir to Thatcher, it looks like she's a pale shadow of John Major (who managed to pull the rabbit from the hat electorally).
Lots of Labour MPs with slightly red faces this morning after trying to run Corbyn out of town, turns out he's the most "electable" leader the party have had in a decade !
Shows how far the party had fallen when 265 odd seats gives him that tag. It's easy to forget that's still miles from a majority - and the sort of figures Blair was bringing in.
I mean being more charismatic than Ed Milliband and Gordon Brown is...damning with faint praise.
I certainly take your point, and I have not followed this election as closely as I have past elections, but to close a ~20 point gap to...I think BBC were predicting it at like 3-4%. That's more than a bad May campaign. That's more than a good Corbyn campaign. That's turning people out because they WANT to vote for you. It's what we'd call a "wave" election. Even if Labour come up well short of a majority, you have to look at the mitigating factors.
A larger NI contingent in the government may introduce a more thoughtful Brexit negotiation with regards to border control, perhaps?
If anything, I think it could lessen it to be honest. It might have been likely if it was the UUP. The DUP are quite hardline Brexit, and it is not uncommon to hear their members say that the answer is for Ireland to leave the EU as well.
It would be interesting to see what the views of MPs in general will be - the proportion of anti-EU MPs may be greater. There's not a lot of time before negotiations begin.
The two worst outcomes for May, other than losing, were either a massive majority (where arty discipline suffers) or a slim lead (leading to reliance on the bonkers backbenchers).
Far from being the heir to Thatcher, it looks like she's a pale shadow of John Major (who managed to pull the rabbit from the hat electorally).
A larger NI contingent in the government may introduce a more thoughtful Brexit negotiation with regards to border control, perhaps?
If anything, I think it could lessen it to be honest. It might have been likely if it was the UUP. The DUP are quite hardline Brexit, and it is not uncommon to hear their members say that the answer is for Ireland to leave the EU as well.
It would be interesting to see what the views of MPs in general will be - the proportion of anti-EU MPs may be greater. There's not a lot of time before negotiations begin.
The two worst outcomes for May, other than losing, were either a massive majority (where arty discipline suffers) or a slim lead (leading to reliance on the bonkers backbenchers).
Far from being the heir to Thatcher, it looks like she's a pale shadow of John Major (who managed to pull the rabbit from the hat electorally).
Blimey, there goes that theory! I guess it makes sense to an extent, considering their obvious views regarding the union.
I'll have to do some reading, but have the DUP had a presence in government (i.e balancing a hung parliament) before? Perhaps rather naively, I initially figured it may have been quite a positive development - i.e better representation at Westminster.
Lots of Labour MPs with slightly red faces this morning after trying to run Corbyn out of town, turns out he's the most "electable" leader the party have had in a decade !
Shows how far the party had fallen when 265 odd seats gives him that tag. It's easy to forget that's still miles from a majority - and the sort of figures Blair was bringing in.
Would you bet against him getting those extra 50 or so seats he needs in the second election that's blatantly coming our way shortly ?
No I wouldn't. But at this moment in time he doesn't have them.......
He would be mad to step in with a minority government and come across as power hungry. With Brexit disaster waiting to happen it would basically lose him any chance of said majority.
If he is patient and waits - Brexit and the Tories forced to handle it will pass him the majority
Lots of Labour MPs with slightly red faces this morning after trying to run Corbyn out of town, turns out he's the most "electable" leader the party have had in a decade !
Shows how far the party had fallen when 265 odd seats gives him that tag. It's easy to forget that's still miles from a majority - and the sort of figures Blair was bringing in.
Only a few percent down on the overall vote share that labour achieved in 97.
A larger NI contingent in the government may introduce a more thoughtful Brexit negotiation with regards to border control, perhaps?
If anything, I think it could lessen it to be honest. It might have been likely if it was the UUP. The DUP are quite hardline Brexit, and it is not uncommon to hear their members say that the answer is for Ireland to leave the EU as well.
It would be interesting to see what the views of MPs in general will be - the proportion of anti-EU MPs may be greater. There's not a lot of time before negotiations begin.
The two worst outcomes for May, other than losing, were either a massive majority (where arty discipline suffers) or a slim lead (leading to reliance on the bonkers backbenchers).
Far from being the heir to Thatcher, it looks like she's a pale shadow of John Major (who managed to pull the rabbit from the hat electorally).
Blimey, there goes that theory! I guess it makes sense to an extent, considering their obvious views regarding the union.
I'll have to do some reading, but have the DUP had a presence in government (i.e balancing a hung parliament) before? Perhaps rather naively, I initially figured it may have been quite a positive development - i.e better representation at Westminster.
I am biased, I'll admit, but I don't think there's much chance of balance/better representation if the DUP are kingmakers.
I can't see any stable government, so another election may be likely this year.
For what it's worth, the Tories wooing the SNP may be more in the country's interests (in terms both of preserving the Union and also on achieving a Brexit that works for more of us).
This was one of the ones the Conservative's were targeting specifically. (A bit optimistic, as I couldn't see them grabbing anything extra in London... I thought that was pretty obvious!)
It's particularly daft considering the constituency contains not one but two hospitals that are at risk of downgrade or closure.
Tories up to 318 (they must have had Rudds seat as a Labour gain).
Effective majority is 323 once speaker and Sinn Fein are out.
They will be 5 over that with the DUP members.
Spin it how you like, having to go into coalition after an election that was only called because they saw an easy chance to extend their majority is a piss poor result for the Tories.
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Amber Rudd (CON): 25,666
Peter Chwoeney (LAB): 25,322
LD: 1,885
UKIP: 1479
It would be interesting to see what the views of MPs in general will be - the proportion of anti-EU MPs may be greater. There's not a lot of time before negotiations begin.
The two worst outcomes for May, other than losing, were either a massive majority (where arty discipline suffers) or a slim lead (leading to reliance on the bonkers backbenchers).
Far from being the heir to Thatcher, it looks like she's a pale shadow of John Major (who managed to pull the rabbit from the hat electorally).
Not a bad result for Corbyn to get 40%.
I certainly take your point, and I have not followed this election as closely as I have past elections, but to close a ~20 point gap to...I think BBC were predicting it at like 3-4%. That's more than a bad May campaign. That's more than a good Corbyn campaign. That's turning people out because they WANT to vote for you. It's what we'd call a "wave" election. Even if Labour come up well short of a majority, you have to look at the mitigating factors.
Very reminiscent of the later Major government.
I'll have to do some reading, but have the DUP had a presence in government (i.e balancing a hung parliament) before? Perhaps rather naively, I initially figured it may have been quite a positive development - i.e better representation at Westminster.
He would be mad to step in with a minority government and come across as power hungry. With Brexit disaster waiting to happen it would basically lose him any chance of said majority.
If he is patient and waits - Brexit and the Tories forced to handle it will pass him the majority
Tories up to 318 (they must have had Rudds seat as a Labour gain).
Effective majority is 323 once speaker and Sinn Fein are out.
They will be 5 over that with the DUP members.
I can't see any stable government, so another election may be likely this year.
For what it's worth, the Tories wooing the SNP may be more in the country's interests (in terms both of preserving the Union and also on achieving a Brexit that works for more of us).
CON 314
LAB 266
SNP 34
LD 14
PC 3
GRN 1
Expected result with 37 to declare (seat difference to exit poll):
CON 318 (+4)
LAB 262 (-4)
SNP 35 (+1)
LD 13 (-1)
PC 3
GRN 1