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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • Rothko said:

    My question to the people in this topic is: is this a funny joke or did she actually say that in response to the question?

    The worrying thing is, you don't know until you listen to the interview yourself!!!
    She said it

    Wow.....just wow!
  • It's absolutely hilarious. Someone needs to turn Theresa-Bot off and on again.
  • I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that.
  • Rothko said:

    My question to the people in this topic is: is this a funny joke or did she actually say that in response to the question?

    The worrying thing is, you don't know until you listen to the interview yourself!!!
    She said it

    Wow.....just wow!
    Hey mods can I make a request for an, "Arghhh!" button?

    "Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"...repeat ad nauseam.
  • Rothko said:

    My question to the people in this topic is: is this a funny joke or did she actually say that in response to the question?

    The worrying thing is, you don't know until you listen to the interview yourself!!!
    She said it

    Wow.....just wow!
    Hey mods can I make a request for an, "Arghhh!" button?

    "Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"...repeat ad nauseam.
    And it's exactly the same slogan that Cameron was parroting in 2015. Remind me how stable the past two years have been...
  • Rothko said:

    My question to the people in this topic is: is this a funny joke or did she actually say that in response to the question?

    The worrying thing is, you don't know until you listen to the interview yourself!!!
    She said it

    Wow.....just wow!
    Hey mods can I make a request for an, "Arghhh!" button?

    "Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"...repeat ad nauseam.
    And it's exactly the same slogan that Cameron was parroting in 2015. Remind me how stable the past two years have been...
    And it'll work again as well.
  • Rothko said:

    My question to the people in this topic is: is this a funny joke or did she actually say that in response to the question?

    The worrying thing is, you don't know until you listen to the interview yourself!!!
    She said it

    Wow.....just wow!
    Hey mods can I make a request for an, "Arghhh!" button?

    "Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"...repeat ad nauseam.
    And it's exactly the same slogan that Cameron was parroting in 2015. Remind me how stable the past two years have been...
    And it'll work again as well.
    Ffs.
  • Rothko said:

    My question to the people in this topic is: is this a funny joke or did she actually say that in response to the question?

    The worrying thing is, you don't know until you listen to the interview yourself!!!
    She said it

    Wow.....just wow!
    Hey mods can I make a request for an, "Arghhh!" button?

    "Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"...repeat ad nauseam.
    @i_b_b_o_r_g will look into it
  • cabbles said:

    Rothko said:

    My question to the people in this topic is: is this a funny joke or did she actually say that in response to the question?

    The worrying thing is, you don't know until you listen to the interview yourself!!!
    She said it

    Wow.....just wow!
    Hey mods can I make a request for an, "Arghhh!" button?

    "Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"...repeat ad nauseam.
    @i_b_b_o_r_g will look into it
    You're delegating now - a very impressive rise to the top!

    Delegation - the art of not putting off until tomorrow what you can get somebody else to do today!
  • bobmunro said:

    cabbles said:

    Rothko said:

    My question to the people in this topic is: is this a funny joke or did she actually say that in response to the question?

    The worrying thing is, you don't know until you listen to the interview yourself!!!
    She said it

    Wow.....just wow!
    Hey mods can I make a request for an, "Arghhh!" button?

    "Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"..."Strong & stable"...repeat ad nauseam.
    @i_b_b_o_r_g will look into it
    You're delegating now - a very impressive rise to the top!

    Delegation - the art of not putting off until tomorrow what you can get somebody else to do today!
    He's shown promise, but we're yet to sort out the problem of the full site not being available on mobiles. He was looking into this a few weeks back and still unresolved.....it's a big test for him ;-)
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  • Re the fuel allowance. The neighbours behind me are both in receipt of this allowance and every year they contact the local authority to say they dont need it as they are comfortably off. They get told they must have it otherwise the money is lost. Instead they give it to a local charity.

    I'm not sure this is right. The winter fuel payment comes direct from the DWP, not the local authority.
    The Govt's web site says "you usually get a Winter Fuel Payment automatically if you’re eligible and you get the State Pension." It also says "write to the office that pays your Winter Fuel Payment if you want to cancel it." So their story seems a little odd.

    I have no idea whether what was said was correct but I once watched a representative of Age UK being interviewed on this topic and he said that it would actually cost more to "means test" payments than to just pay it out universally.
  • edited April 2017
    Damian Green already dropping the "coalition of chaos" and "strong and stable" government line on QT.
  • I have no idea who Damian green is. Just off to check if I should know.
  • Oh, work and pensions secretary.
  • edited April 2017

    Damian Green already dropping the "coalition of chaos" and "strong and stable" government line on QT.

    Lol. Someone's just called him out on it. Clichétastic.

  • I've never known a football forum love Labour so much
  • I've never known a football forum love Labour so much

    It's this metropolitan metrosexual champagne socialist Diane Abbott bubble the Londoners round here all live in wot dun it
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  • Leuth said:

    too right nick, we should all genuflect before our landed gentry - after all what is a football supporter but an oik, an easily-opiated drone governed by masochism, patriotic bloodlust and an innate sense of inferiority to those who would harness our so-called democratic power? queen and country, mate! no handouts! strong and stable!

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  • Leuth said:

    too right nick, we should all genuflect before our landed gentry - after all what is a football supporter but an oik, an easily-opiated drone governed by masochism, patriotic bloodlust and an innate sense of inferiority to those who would harness our so-called democratic power? queen and country, mate! no handouts! strong and stable!

    Took the words out of my mouth
  • That is my constituency. Matthew Pennycook is the standing MP. I voted for him in 2015 as I have voted Labour all my life. I sent him an e.mail before the Article 50 vote in the House of Commons asking him to assure me he was going to represent the contituency in that vote by voting against. The constituency voted overwhelmingly, something like 70%, to Remain, in the referendum. In response I received a stock response, obviously written by Labour head office, detailing why he was voting for article 50. All the Labour MPs in neighbouring constituencies, which also voted overwhelmingly to Remain, voted against article 50. So, to sum up, he is a useless piece of shit. Looks like I will still have to vote for him though because I don't see anyone else likely to prevent the Tory from getting elected.

    I am really looking forward to see how Kate Hoey gets on in Vauxhall. I would dearly love to see her lose her seat.

    As a floating voter I can't understand why someone would slavishly follow one party (whichever one) when it's direction changes depending on its leadership.

    Also my own views have changed over the years I assume most people will vary views depending on life experiences as time goes by?
  • I've never known a football forum love Labour so much

    I think I've read every post in this thread...and not one of them has said anything approaching what you're suggesting. You could always try arguing your case sensibly rather than just making silly comments?

    And now I'm annoyed at myself for rising to your bait.

    *grumpy face*
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    1989cafc said:

    I see parallels

    Tory Government
    Deficit - Very High.
    Borrowing - From Rich individuals and organisations Up (over double since the last Labour government).
    Selling of Prized Assets - Royal Mail, NHS privatisation etc.
    Main Policy - Austerity.
    Main Players -
    Theresa May - Wants to hide. No TV debates. Allegedly no public invited to her speaches and visits.
    Boris Johnson - bumbling buffoon, who was happy to quote 350 million pound for the NHS if we vote Brexit. Complete LIE.
    Dr Liam Fox - Telling business people they should get of the Golf course on Friday afternoon and do some work !!
    Tagline - Strong Government & Stable Economy.

    Charlton Regime
    Deficit - As per the account 13million Loss?.
    Borrowing - Loans to Roland Up year on year.
    Selling of Prized Assets - Kermogant, Morrison, Lookman etc
    Main Policy - Operate within a ridiculously small budget.
    Main Players -
    Roland - Hides in Belgium, has not been to a Charlton game in 3 years !!
    Robinson - Bumbles through all interviews. Told club is it not for sale. Next day leaks of Club being sold.
    Miere - Unqualified to be CEO. Telling fans they are customers.
    Being bandied around - Better the devil you know.

    Would you Vote for the Charlton Regime ? I say vote for ANYONE but the Tories !!

    Not to rush to the defence of the tories but the deficit is back down to pre 2007 levels and debt will of course continue to rise as long as a deficit exists.
    Not in cash terms it's not and even reports in the Telegraph are on the pessimistic side.

    telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/04/25/uks-deficit-slashed-level-last-seen-financial-crisis/

    I'm not celebrating that 7 years of austerity has managed to get us back to a point we were at 10 years ago quite yet.
    You make a very valid point. Politicians will use the yardstick that gives out the message they want. If my credit card debt goes up do I say it's gone down because my salary went up. No, I would say my cash borrowings have increased but affordability is OK because my salary increase covers the repayments.

    If supermarket prices go up and I buy less with my shopping budget, does it make sense to say my spending has been cut when in fact I have simply been able to buy less.

    Sounds gobbledegook, but it’s how a rise is manipulated to be called a fall and a fall is manipulated to be called a rise.

    So you are right, looking at cash, our deficit has not gone down, and has in fact increased in real terms if you take account of inflation.

    So if we cut the gobbledegook and talk about cash, we can see that spending on the NHS in 2005/06 was £76.4bn, and by 2017 it’s risen to £135bn. So we can agree thanks to @Bournemouth Addick exposure of fake news how figures are manipulated and that in fact the national debt has gone up and NHS spending has nearly doubled. In reality we have borrowed more cash and spent more cash. If government's borrowed more cash and government's spent less cash we need to find out who's knicking the money.

    Talk of a fall in national debt is the same bollocks as the talk of a cut in NHS spending, it ensures the truth that exposes the root of the problem can't get in the way of the politics.
  • The Conservatives are adept at using untruths.
  • edited April 2017
    Fiiish said:

    It's almost as if people are reacting to a Government that is failing catastrophically in almost every area of policy.

    Definitely signs that people are reacting to a government that is failing catastrophically in almost every area of policy...


    So much so that the average of all current polls has increased their lead by 7.7% since when they began their stint in office.

    In all seriousness though, I know recent polls have shown a slight decrease in their rating, it doesn't strike me as a particularly accurate claim when it's said that "people are reacting" to their failings.

    By all accounts, they're still doing a lot better than they should be!

    Edit: Apparently I was wrong, this rolling average (so will lessen the effect of individual polls, albeit will potentially be slightly delayed upon a change in trend) suggests there's no such decrease:

  • edited April 2017
    Sod it, nope - I was right.


    All very interesting at the moment, but very much expected to be fair.

    Up until the snap election it was clear that Labour were clueless and there was no real urgency to stop that. It stands to reason that after the announcement they would have to organise themselves and perhaps try and look a bit more organised and viable.
  • edited April 2017
    www.ukpollingreport.co.uk is a good site to follow. It includes analysis as well as the polls.
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