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How do the Tories need to change?

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  • Boris basically has one more shot at becoming Tory leader / Prime minister. He was stabbed in the back by that diamond geezer Gove but against all the odds ended up as Foriegn Secretary and inside the tent. Unfortunately for Teresa May, Boris is so distracted or mischievous that whilst endeavouring to piss out of the tent he manages to splash and spray it about inside.

    Whenever the grandees of the 1922 committee decide enough is enough for May. Boris needs to have positioned himself in such a way as to have enough parliamentary support as well as still remaining the grass roots darling.

    I think he can do it. Ultimately the conservative parliamentarians will follow whoever they think offers the best shot of them retaining their seat. If that Boris then he will find support and lots of it.

    Rees-Mogg isn't even worth considering as a possible alternative. Which begs the question if not Boris, whom ?

    Hammond is too opposed to a hard Brexit for many Tories. Grayling is a toad which leaves Amber Rudd.

    If Boris loses out he is effectively finished as an MP. He's not going to hang around the back benches very long.



    Amber Rudd is likely to lose her seat at the next election. That is holding her ambition back. Boris does have a lot of support as well as a lot of enemies and the Tories probably think they are in a position where they have to roll the dice - as that is what Boris as leader would be. I think realistically, they have one person at this time and only one, who would frighten Labour and that is Ruth Davidson. Whether she would guarantee a win, I can't say but she has the gravity about her that a leader needs. Of course the economy is not going to improve in the next few years so that is going to work against them.

    Davidson would need to be elected to Westminster first and that would be tricky in itself. I think @Rob7Lee is right about it being a while and it will probably be a moderniser from the fringes of the party like Cameron. I am continually impressed by Heidi Allen as well as Ruth Davidson, in a couple of years she may well have the clout and profile to be such a candidate.
    James Cleverly (Blackheath resident) is the man to watch - mentioned in dispatches a few times this week and into 20/1 with some bookies as next leader.

    Don't think he's CAFC though...
  • I don't think the security should allow a stunt like that. I mean, what if it was somebody with more evil intent than a comedian? He was able to hand it to her, how does he get that close?
  • Just seen the X-Ray of May, T.
    Second time it's happened, apparently.
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  • Rothko said:
    I think the only way that could have gone any worse is if she accidentally walked onto the stage dressed as a Smurf.
  • Fiiish said:

    Rothko said:
    I think the only way that could have gone any worse is if she accidentally walked onto the stage dressed as a Smurf.
    Yes, it is a bugger when that happens.
  • The P45 was Lee Nelson I hear. Good work.
  • They're getting hammered on Twitter - great to see
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    To be honest, I was looking at the backdrop yesterday and thinking it didn't look very professional - was thinking we could do a much better job than that. I Didn't realise the letters were stuck on individually. I mean, how can they run the country if they can't even do a proper job of their conference stage?
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  • To be honest, I was looking at the backdrop yesterday and thinking they didn't look very professional - was thinking we could do a much better job than that. I Didn't realise the letters were stuck on individually. I mean, how can they run teh country if they can't even do a proper job of their conference stage?

    Well it's simple.

    They can't run the country.
  • Good job the O, R and Y in country managed to stay on though!
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  • I blame the b***ard who chopped down the magic money tree for all her problems.
  • I blame the b***ard who chopped down the magic money tree for all her problems.

    Jeremy Corbyn found it and planted it in his garden! Mind you, super glue is cheaper than Pritt Stick so no excuse for the letter falling!
  • Was this Teresa May's bacon sandwich moment or fell into the surf ?
  • Was this Teresa May's bacon sandwich moment or fell into the surf ?

    More like falling into the surf whilst attempting to eat a bacon sandwich.
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  • cabbles said:

    Laughable the bit about a cap in energy prices after they chewed Milliband out about it a few years back

    They have already nicked most of Milliband's policies, so a few more won't make any odds for this shameless bunch!
  • cabbles said:

    Laughable the bit about a cap in energy prices after they chewed Milliband out about it a few years back

    plus ça change plus c'est la même chose
  • cabbles said:

    Laughable the bit about a cap in energy prices after they chewed Milliband out about it a few years back

    More predictable than laughable, bobbles - don't forget they are politicians.
  • Was this Teresa May's bacon sandwich moment or fell into the surf ?

    Barely anyone in the country watches speeches outside of elections.

    This will barely change the polls.

    Her bacon sandwich moment was skipping the debate. That's the point the labour upswing happened.
  • Was this Teresa May's bacon sandwich moment or fell into the surf ?

    Barely anyone in the country watches speeches outside of elections.

    This will barely change the polls.

    Her bacon sandwich moment was skipping the debate. That's the point the labour upswing happened.
    They watch the news though.

  • cabbles said:

    Laughable the bit about a cap in energy prices after they chewed Milliband out about it a few years back

    What it does illustrate is how the political spectrum in the country has undeniably moved firmly to the left since the election of Corbyn. He's offering a genuine socialist alternative and in response the Tories have moved to offer policies which were Labour ones just two years ago - another example of the volatile times we live in.

  • Just as well Mrs May isn't a Labour politician or all of you would be terribly sexist
  • Was this Teresa May's bacon sandwich moment or fell into the surf ?

    Barely anyone in the country watches speeches outside of elections.

    This will barely change the polls.

    Her bacon sandwich moment was skipping the debate. That's the point the labour upswing happened.
    They watch the news though.

    The news about the mass shooting sure.

    May gets a cough isn't really on the same level and media like the conservative party so aren't going to pile on.
  • Was this Teresa May's bacon sandwich moment or fell into the surf ?

    Barely anyone in the country watches speeches outside of elections.

    This will barely change the polls.

    Her bacon sandwich moment was skipping the debate. That's the point the labour upswing happened.
    They watch the news though.

    The news about the mass shooting sure.

    May gets a cough isn't really on the same level and media like the conservative party so aren't going to pile on.

    If assure you that the May speech will lead the six o clock news tonight. The ten o clock and the fallout tomorrow.

    It was from start to finish a complete disaster for her. If it hadn't been for the coughing and P45 and the letter dropping off fiasco her performance wouldn't have any plaudits. As it happened the catastrophe the audience sat through galvanised them somewhat.
    Reminds me of a group of strangers who live through/survive some horrible catastrophe or disaster and come through with lifelong bonds with each other.
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