The Ashes 2017-18
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Or Woakes will!0
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Come on England.0
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Chill - in the bag...thai malaysia addick said:Come on England.
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Is it me or is it hard to differentiate sometimes between Woakes and Root when they bat together?1
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Take Starc out and this Aussie bowling attack is terrible.
Great little knock from Woakes here though2 -
I prefer it to be in the scorebook to the bag.Addickted2TheReds said:
Chill - in the bag...thai malaysia addick said:Come on England.
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Woakes sees it home. Come on England!1
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Second to last shot over backward point was an absolute beauty.1
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Never in doubt.0
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I know we're 4th in odi rankings, but on current form, England must be the best limited overs team in the world at the moment5
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Chrissy\\\'s Army!! said:
I know we're 4th in odi rankings, but on current form, England must be the best limited overs team in the world at the moment
Make your own points!! :-)Addickted2TheReds said:We're the best white ball team in the world, aren't we?
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In 2005 we played Australia in one T20. A number of remarkable aspects from that game:
We won by 100 runs
KP got man of the match for scoring 34 off 18 and taking three catches when Collingwood scored 46 off 26 and had bowling figures of 2-0-8-2
The farcical line up and batting order - that sums up how far we've come in terms of attitude to the shorter form of the game:
1Trecsothick
2.Jones
3.Flintoff
4.KP
5.Vaughan (C)
6.Collingwood
7.Strauss
8.Solanki
9.Lewis
10.Gough
11.Harmison
Vaughan, Strauss and Solanki must have been picked for their specialist fielding!
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I wonder how many players have made 2 consecutive tons and been on the losing side both times?2
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To be fair that was a lot better than the more recent times when we had Cook, Trott and Bell (and Balance often) clogging up the top order and seeing us to barely 100 after 35 overs so we woukd have to spend the whole time catching up.Addick Addict said:In 2005 we played Australia in one T20. A number of remarkable aspects from that game:
We won by 100 runs
KP got man of the match for scoring 34 off 18 and taking three catches when Collingwood scored 46 off 26 and had bowling figures of 2-0-8-2
The farcical line up and batting order - that sums up how far we've come in terms of attitude to the shorter form of the game:
1Trecsothick
2.Jones
3.Flintoff
4.KP
5.Vaughan (C)
6.Collingwood
7.Strauss
8.Solanki
9.Lewis
10.Gough
11.Harmison
Vaughan, Strauss and Solanki must have been picked for their specialist fielding!3 -
But this was T20 Canters - doubt Cook, Froth and Bell (and Balance often) have ever played a T20 for England.0
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As remarkable as it seems and as stupid as it now sounds they all did apart from Ballance.MrOneLung said:But this was T20 Canters - doubt Cook, Froth and Bell (and Balance often) have ever played a T20 for England.
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It was one of the first International T20's and the game hadn't really taken off, it was the first in England. I don't think anything can really be concluded from this except that we thrashed them. This format of "cricket" has totally changed.MrOneLung said:But this was T20 Canters - doubt Cook, Froth and Bell (and Balance often) have ever played a T20 for England.
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You watch Root in the ODIs and he looks happy and relaxed, and enjoying being "back in the ranks"...2
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I thought you only liked Test matchesRiviera said:
It was one of the first International T20's and the game hadn't really taken off, it was the first in England. I don't think anything can really be concluded from this except that we thrashed them. This format of "cricket" has totally changed.MrOneLung said:But this was T20 Canters - doubt Cook, Froth and Bell (and Balance often) have ever played a T20 for England.
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Not out in both, and guided us through - long may it last.killerandflash said:You watch Root in the ODIs and he looks happy and relaxed, and enjoying being "back in the ranks"...
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I think that with the World Cup being in England next year that we must be starting as favourites.Chrissy\\\'s Army!! said:I know we're 4th in odi rankings, but on current form, England must be the best limited overs team in the world at the moment
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India still marginal favourites for me0
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Wouldn't think so now, Kohli suspect with lateral movement, Dhoni on way out, Ashwin not so effective. England have all the power players now.Leuth said:India still marginal favourites for me
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Bowling well also.The_President said:
Not out in both, and guided us through - long may it last.killerandflash said:You watch Root in the ODIs and he looks happy and relaxed, and enjoying being "back in the ranks"...
I still wonder if giving the captaincy to Jimmy might have been a better move at this stage of Root's career. Let him concentrate on his batting0 -
Try saying that to Joe.killerandflash said:
Bowling well also.The_President said:
Not out in both, and guided us through - long may it last.killerandflash said:You watch Root in the ODIs and he looks happy and relaxed, and enjoying being "back in the ranks"...
I still wonder if giving the captaincy to Jimmy might have been a better move at this stage of Root's career. Let him concentrate on his batting0 -
We really don't have an obvious captain apart from Root - Cook doesn't want it, typically front line quickies don't do it these days and how long has Jimmy got left anyway, Stokes is a mile away from being handed the job and too much of a hot head, it would be too much for Bairstow as keeper and batsman and no one else is certain of their place.1
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I don't understand why bowlers aren't seen as captains these daysAddick Addict said:We really don't have an obvious captain apart from Root - Cook doesn't want it, typically front line quickies don't do it these days and how long has Jimmy got left anyway, Stokes is a mile away from being handed the job and too much of a hot head, it would be too much for Bairstow as keeper and batsman and no one else is certain of their place.
Batting is the feat which requires great concentration, where the mental energy required from captaincy may take its toll. Bowlers have to think about field placings and the weaknesses of batsmen anyway, so it should come as second nature.
Jimmy wouldn't be the long term choice, but could have done it for a couple of years.0 -
I think part of it is that it's usual for a quickie to be fielding at fine leg or third man - obviously not in Jimmy's case. The batting captain also has no element of bias, either way, when it comes to bringing a bowler on and/or to go for a review. You can imagine what would happen if Broad was captain - he'd be bowling from both ends and be the only one allowed to review.killerandflash said:
I don't understand why bowlers aren't seen as captains these daysAddick Addict said:We really don't have an obvious captain apart from Root - Cook doesn't want it, typically front line quickies don't do it these days and how long has Jimmy got left anyway, Stokes is a mile away from being handed the job and too much of a hot head, it would be too much for Bairstow as keeper and batsman and no one else is certain of their place.
Batting is the feat which requires great concentration, where the mental energy required from captaincy may take its toll. Bowlers have to think about field placings and the weaknesses of batsmen anyway, so it should come as second nature.
Jimmy wouldn't be the long term choice, but could have done it for a couple of years.
The final thing about Jimmy is that whilst he does get in the face of the opposition he is very much an introvert. And introverts tend to lead by example as opposed to leading the team.1 -
Jimmy has done plenty of radio work over the last few years, so can't that shy, and has been "the leader of the bowler" for many years now. Unlike Broad, I think he can be trusted to think about the team's interests!Addick Addict said:
I think part of it is that it's usual for a quickie to be fielding at fine leg or third man - obviously not in Jimmy's case. The batting captain also has no element of bias, either way, when it comes to bringing a bowler on and/or to go for a review. You can imagine what would happen if Broad was captain - he'd be bowling from both ends and be the only one allowed to review.killerandflash said:
I don't understand why bowlers aren't seen as captains these daysAddick Addict said:We really don't have an obvious captain apart from Root - Cook doesn't want it, typically front line quickies don't do it these days and how long has Jimmy got left anyway, Stokes is a mile away from being handed the job and too much of a hot head, it would be too much for Bairstow as keeper and batsman and no one else is certain of their place.
Batting is the feat which requires great concentration, where the mental energy required from captaincy may take its toll. Bowlers have to think about field placings and the weaknesses of batsmen anyway, so it should come as second nature.
Jimmy wouldn't be the long term choice, but could have done it for a couple of years.
The final thing about Jimmy is that whilst he does get in the face of the opposition he is very much an introvert. And introverts tend to lead by example as opposed to leading the team.0
