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  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    Riviera said:

    And Bill Clinton

    Settled multiple cases out of court , seems no one is safe.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,655
    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    The rest decided they didn't want to find themselves unexpectedly suicided.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    Like I said , the Weinstein thing is just the tip of the iceberg.

    This doesn’t even include Alex Jones intergalactic peadophile ring remember :smile:
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    edited October 2017
    Who would have thought that sweaty sleezy looking Michael Winner was an abuser ? Ah yes nearly everybody.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5011897/Michael-Winner-accusers-Morning.html
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  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    Piers Morgan is a particularly weird individual . The kind of things he is saying in reaction to this scandal is just way off the mark and completely out of order. Not that his opinion is valued anyway.

    Sexual abuse and or sexual harassment is exactly that.

    How ambitious successful or wealthy the victims of it might be, is boarderline irrelevant and shouldn't be a factor.

    It is relative, but it shouldn't take anything away from the crime or terrible behaviour itself.

    The silence and fear of Weinstein is the thing that gave him the power, but it's not the direct fault of the victims themselves that he carried on and got away with it for as long as he did.

    Fear and shock can depress people and put up a barrier between themselves and the truth. Creates silence due to links with feelings they do not wish to be at the front of their mind.

    It's probably a very uncomfortable and challenging thing to admit and open up about.

    When the victims of Barry Bennels abuse at Crewe Alexandra had the courage to open up, it enabled more victims of his incredibly disgusting behaviour to come forward and talk about it.




  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    edited October 2017
    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
    Not too young, just skeptical of all of the conspiracy theories surrounding the Clintons which have all been rehashed over the past two years. It's clear Bill Clinton was a sexual predator. But I'm also weary of confligrating sexual assault and harassment with consentual sex between adults that occurs outside of marriage and is considered "scandalous." The two are not the same.

    The article you linked to started off by saying "why isn't anyone talking about Bill Clinton?" which is absurd. Trump brought his accusers to a presidential debate and tried to sit them with the families and HE WASN'T EVEN RUNNING FOR ANYTHING.

    You have a hunch. Fine. We'll just leave it at that.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    So if you're not running for office no one is allowed to shame you. With apologists like you around the likes of Clinton et al will continue to get away with it.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Riviera said:

    So if you're not running for office no one is allowed to shame you. With apologists like you around the likes of Clinton et al will continue to get away with it.

    Adorable.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    I read this morning that Gemma Collins is suing Weinstein, for not being attracted to her.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    DA9 said:

    I read this morning that Gemma Collins is suing Weinstein, for not being attracted to her.

    Must just be a stage she's going through
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    There's too long a gap between that video starting and the silly tart falling through the gap (IMHO).
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Saga Lout said:

    There's too long a gap between that video starting and the silly tart falling through the gap (IMHO).

    Correct, but theyre all tgat long Sago
  • SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
    But I'm also weary of confligrating sexual assault and harassment with consentual sex between adults that occurs outside of marriage and is considered "scandalous." The two are not the same.
    Surely the important question is how that consent was gained, what influeneve or promises were used.


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  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,194

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
    But I'm also weary of confligrating sexual assault and harassment with consentual sex between adults that occurs outside of marriage and is considered "scandalous." The two are not the same.
    Surely the important question is how that consent was gained, what influeneve or promises were used.


    It's not THE important question, it's probably one of many. SD is getting stick for daring to stick to facts, rather than some half-troll's internal monologue, and that doesn't quite add up to me.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    JiMMy 85 said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
    But I'm also weary of confligrating sexual assault and harassment with consentual sex between adults that occurs outside of marriage and is considered "scandalous." The two are not the same.
    Surely the important question is how that consent was gained, what influeneve or promises were used.


    It's not THE important question, it's probably one of many. SD is getting stick for daring to stick to facts, rather than some half-troll's internal monologue, and that doesn't quite add up to me.
    Discussion, opinion and speculation. That's what message boards are for, not for simply stating facts.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948

    Fuck me, just watch that again and on a laptop screen, I can bench 300 lbs, but reckon I'd struggle pickin her up like them geezers did, take a bow fellas.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    JiMMy 85 said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
    But I'm also weary of confligrating sexual assault and harassment with consentual sex between adults that occurs outside of marriage and is considered "scandalous." The two are not the same.
    Surely the important question is how that consent was gained, what influeneve or promises were used.


    It's not THE important question, it's probably one of many. SD is getting stick for daring to stick to facts, rather than some half-troll's internal monologue, and that doesn't quite add up to me.
    Nah mate I think it's more important that when talking about sexual assault and rape we go on someone's hunch, someone who has never met any of the people involved or have any genuine concern for sexual assault or victims beyond "how can I make this into a 'us versus them' political battle?" That's really the way forward.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,194
    Riviera said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
    But I'm also weary of confligrating sexual assault and harassment with consentual sex between adults that occurs outside of marriage and is considered "scandalous." The two are not the same.
    Surely the important question is how that consent was gained, what influeneve or promises were used.


    It's not THE important question, it's probably one of many. SD is getting stick for daring to stick to facts, rather than some half-troll's internal monologue, and that doesn't quite add up to me.
    Discussion, opinion and speculation. That's what message boards are for, not for simply stating facts.
    You can be sued/ arrested for what you write on a message board, so I think that's utter nonsense. Sure, that was the attitude in the late 90s when the interwebs was an unknown quantity and people could hide behind their online personas. But these days, you can, and should, be called out on your bullshit.

  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Riviera said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
    But I'm also weary of confligrating sexual assault and harassment with consentual sex between adults that occurs outside of marriage and is considered "scandalous." The two are not the same.
    Surely the important question is how that consent was gained, what influeneve or promises were used.


    It's not THE important question, it's probably one of many. SD is getting stick for daring to stick to facts, rather than some half-troll's internal monologue, and that doesn't quite add up to me.
    Discussion, opinion and speculation. That's what message boards are for, not for simply stating facts.
    You can be sued/ arrested for what you write on a message board, so I think that's utter nonsense. Sure, that was the attitude in the late 90s when the interwebs was an unknown quantity and people could hide behind their online personas. But these days, you can, and should, be called out on your bullshit.

    Too true. But you can still discuss, opinionate and speculate. I haven't accused anyone of anything. It wasn't me who said Clinton had settled out of court numerous times, and I haven't spouted any bull either, so be careful!
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Riviera said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Riviera said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
    But I'm also weary of confligrating sexual assault and harassment with consentual sex between adults that occurs outside of marriage and is considered "scandalous." The two are not the same.
    Surely the important question is how that consent was gained, what influeneve or promises were used.


    It's not THE important question, it's probably one of many. SD is getting stick for daring to stick to facts, rather than some half-troll's internal monologue, and that doesn't quite add up to me.
    Discussion, opinion and speculation. That's what message boards are for, not for simply stating facts.
    You can be sued/ arrested for what you write on a message board, so I think that's utter nonsense. Sure, that was the attitude in the late 90s when the interwebs was an unknown quantity and people could hide behind their online personas. But these days, you can, and should, be called out on your bullshit.

    Too true. But you can still discuss, opinionate and speculate. I haven't accused anyone of anything. It wasn't me who said Clinton had settled out of court numerous times, and I haven't spouted any bull either, so be careful!
    Er....
    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Errr.... That's an opinion! Not an accusation.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    edited October 2017
    Riviera said:

    Errr.... That's an opinion! Not an accusation.

    It's an opinion in which you accuse Bill Clinton of sexual assaulting many more women than are currently publicly known. Saying "it's an opinion" doesn't absolve you from having a factual basis to things.

    To be fair to you, I did genuinely laugh out loud at the absurdity of what you just said so there's that...
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,194
    Riviera said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Riviera said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Riviera said:

    SDAddick said:

    Bill Clinton has settled with one woman, Paula Jones, out of court.

    So that's ok then?
    What? Of course not. And there are two more serious allegations in addition to the one he settled out of court. I just like factual statements.
    Two? I am sure there are many, many more. Accusations that have been suppressed, not just of sexual misconduct, financial and corruption too. He is a sleazeball but it seems untouchable and still disgustingly revered throughout the world.
    I'm open to hearing the sources for your claims of more cases. I am not defending Bill Clinton. There are many things to dislike him for without inventing new ones.
    I guess you're too young to know. Here you go for starters - http://www.weeklystandard.com/theres-an-awakening-against-sexual-assault-so-why-is-no-one-talking-about-bill-clinton/article/2010150

    I've not invented anything, I just said that I reckon there are more than 2 allegations against him, ones that we don't know about. Not sure how you expect me to reveal the sources for my thoughts. I guess it's just a hunch based on everything I've ever heard about him.
    But I'm also weary of confligrating sexual assault and harassment with consentual sex between adults that occurs outside of marriage and is considered "scandalous." The two are not the same.
    Surely the important question is how that consent was gained, what influeneve or promises were used.


    It's not THE important question, it's probably one of many. SD is getting stick for daring to stick to facts, rather than some half-troll's internal monologue, and that doesn't quite add up to me.
    Discussion, opinion and speculation. That's what message boards are for, not for simply stating facts.
    You can be sued/ arrested for what you write on a message board, so I think that's utter nonsense. Sure, that was the attitude in the late 90s when the interwebs was an unknown quantity and people could hide behind their online personas. But these days, you can, and should, be called out on your bullshit.

    Too true. But you can still discuss, opinionate and speculate. I haven't accused anyone of anything. It wasn't me who said Clinton had settled out of court numerous times, and I haven't spouted any bull either, so be careful!
    Or...what exactly?