I suspect the same attitude will apply - the “customers” are stupid, and they can like it or lump it. Mix in a few lies, the odd sofa, a bit of house music and you are doing a good job. Uniquely.
To confirm she was at Uni when said tweet was tweeted and on top of that, it looks like the account was set up and only the one tweet was ever sent... I'd assume it was a twape (a bit like a frape) *both are disgusting terms* or it was a scorned woman before people were more careful about social media...
She obviously doesn't use twitter and it may just be a case that she shares the same name with someone else...
There must be hundreds of Lungi Macebos out there in FaceTwat land
The fact that the wendies made a KM thread a members only one suggests that they don't want outside attention from the club itself...and they may already be planning a form of demonstration if on field and off field problems continue.
I hope for them and for footballs soul that they do these as early as possible to make things very clear that they do not want to be told how they support their club and that the owner can F*ck right off.
The early signs are there and bad owners have spread their wings enough times elsewhere for people to see where it might be heading.
Kill the virus early on before it spreads out of control.
Won't do any harm.
It's not quite like that with the forum. We have been though a lot in the past with previous incumbents and have seen legal action against our own fans, including some forum members, by previous incumbents. The reason the boardroom section is members only is historical. The reason KM threads have been moved into it is firstly because there were loads of them and that's where they belong and secondly as a chance to drive some traffic through the now pretty much defunct boardroom section.
There is a real mixed bag amongst supporters ranging from long-term season ticket holders packing it in (including one who had only missed one home match in 46 years and stopped going before Christmas) to these who are grateful for what they see as stability brought by the current Chairman.
The vast majority of us sit somewhere in the middle at the moment. Of course we are glad to be rid of winding up orders etc from the past and are starved of success after nearly 20 years out of the top flight so the investment in the playing squad was welcome. The real difference is that some are happy with that at all costs where for some, like me, the club is a lot more than what happens on the pitch.
The long and short of it is that from the start (3 years) our Chairman has invested pretty heavily and asked us to do the same with high ticket prices, merchandise cost etc. Most of us took that without too many complaints but now, as the wheels appear to come off a bit, it's the fans who are getting the blame. We've been accused of not supporting the club enough, not singing loud enough, being on the player's backs etc etc but little responsibility has been accepted by anyone else.
The way the Chairman sees it, he is sticking in £1m a month just to cover the bills and for that we have to be eternally grateful and not really question it. The way some of the fans see it, p**s poor decision making has left in the position of being a club losing £1m a month whilst supporting an ageing, expensive, underperforming squad no nearer the Premier League than we were nearly £100m ago. Sure it's not our £100m but we are constantly being told that everything has to be expensive because of FFP and that we must support the club.
All secondary income was kicked aside. Corporate boxes pretty much doubled in price overnight and are more expensive than Chelsea, Man City etc. They are empty. Match sponsorship, player sponsorship, match ball sponsorship, everything is uber expensive and not being taken up. Our shirt is sponsored by "Chansiri" , the owner. The seats spelling SWFC in the stands were removed and replaced with "CHANSIRI". I think i read somewhere it was about £600 to be a mascot.
All this is justified by the Chairman because he says he has put in as much money as FFP allows (hence the self sponsorship etc). The real problem however is how it was spent.
Small things. Our badge was changed. No reason and the new one is s**t. The stripes have gone and we are playing in what is essentially an Ipswich kit. The replica kit turned up in November. This is our 150th anniversary year and almost nothing has been done to mark it. The promised marquee friendly never materialised, 'Community Events' have either been none existent or have been incredibly underwhelming.
One of our latest schemes, 'The 1867 Club' is straight out of the Leeds handbook. £2100 gets you a bronze plaque on your seat saying '1867 Member' and a 3 year season ticket WHEN WE GET TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE. Basically, Chairman says lend me £2100 and I will give it back to you if we get promoted. He seems to be personally affronted that he was slated for the idea.
We've upset him is the long and short of it. He has claimed we are all family and he is doing all he can to make us successful but that we need to do our bit. He seems to have taken the opinion that we are not. Well Mr Chairman, where I come from, paying £705 for a season ticket to watch second tier football and £49 for a match ticket is doing our bit.
The Chairman has been largely popular since he arrived. The tide is definitely turning. Maybe it's related to the performances on the pitch but personally, I think it runs a lot deeper than that and has been masked for the last couple of seasons by giving desperate fans two Play-Off appearances to show how rosy everything is.
I didn't mean to write a diatribe on the inner workings of SWFC but as we mover forward and some follow the progess of the new CEO, maybe a little background about her starting point will help.
The fact that the wendies made a KM thread a members only one suggests that they don't want outside attention from the club itself...and they may already be planning a form of demonstration if on field and off field problems continue.
I hope for them and for footballs soul that they do these as early as possible to make things very clear that they do not want to be told how they support their club and that the owner can F*ck right off.
The early signs are there and bad owners have spread their wings enough times elsewhere for people to see where it might be heading.
Kill the virus early on before it spreads out of control.
Won't do any harm.
It's not quite like that with the forum. We have been though a lot in the past with previous incumbents and have seen legal action against our own fans, including some forum members, by previous incumbents. The reason the boardroom section is members only is historical. The reason KM threads have been moved into it is firstly because there were loads of them and that's where they belong and secondly as a chance to drive some traffic through the now pretty much defunct boardroom section.
There is a real mixed bag amongst supporters ranging from long-term season ticket holders packing it in (including one who had only missed one home match in 46 years and stopped going before Christmas) to these who are grateful for what they see as stability brought by the current Chairman.
The vast majority of us sit somewhere in the middle at the moment. Of course we are glad to be rid of winding up orders etc from the past and are starved of success after nearly 20 years out of the top flight so the investment in the playing squad was welcome. The real difference is that some are happy with that at all costs where for some, like me, the club is a lot more than what happens on the pitch.
The long and short of it is that from the start (3 years) our Chairman has invested pretty heavily and asked us to do the same with high ticket prices, merchandise cost etc. Most of us took that without too many complaints but now, as the wheels appear to come off a bit, it's the fans who are getting the blame. We've been accused of not supporting the club enough, not singing loud enough, being on the player's backs etc etc but little responsibility has been accepted by anyone else.
The way the Chairman sees it, he is sticking in £1m a month just to cover the bills and for that we have to be eternally grateful and not really question it. The way some of the fans see it, p**s poor decision making has left in the position of being a club losing £1m a month whilst supporting an ageing, expensive, underperforming squad no nearer the Premier League than we were nearly £100m ago. Sure it's not our £100m but we are constantly being told that everything has to be expensive because of FFP and that we must support the club.
All secondary income was kicked aside. Corporate boxes pretty much doubled in price overnight and are more expensive than Chelsea, Man City etc. They are empty. Match sponsorship, player sponsorship, match ball sponsorship, everything is uber expensive and not being taken up. Our shirt is sponsored by "Chansiri" , the owner. The seats spelling SWFC in the stands were removed and replaced with "CHANSIRI". I think i read somewhere it was about £600 to be a mascot.
All this is justified by the Chairman because he says he has put in as much money as FFP allows (hence the self sponsorship etc). The real problem however is how it was spent.
Small things. Our badge was changed. No reason and the new one is s**t. The stripes have gone and we are playing in what is essentially an Ipswich kit. The replica kit turned up in November. This is our 150th anniversary year and almost nothing has been done to mark it. The promised marquee friendly never materialised, 'Community Events' have either been none existent or have been incredibly underwhelming.
One of our latest schemes, 'The 1867 Club' is straight out of the Leeds handbook. £2100 gets you a bronze plaque on your seat saying '1867 Member' and a 3 year season ticket WHEN WE GET TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE. Basically, Chairman says lend me £2100 and I will give it back to you if we get promoted. He seems to be personally affronted that he was slated for the idea.
We've upset him is the long and short of it. He has claimed we are all family and he is doing all he can to make us successful but that we need to do our bit. He seems to have taken the opinion that we are not. Well Mr Chairman, where I come from, paying £705 for a season ticket to watch second tier football and £49 for a match ticket is doing our bit.
The Chairman has been largely popular since he arrived. The tide is definitely turning. Maybe it's related to the performances on the pitch but personally, I think it runs a lot deeper than that and has been masked for the last couple of seasons by giving desperate fans two Play-Off appearances to show how rosy everything is.
I didn't mean to write a diatribe on the inner workings of SWFC but as we mover forward and some follow the progess of the new CEO, maybe a little background about her starting point will help.
Bloody hell even Katies gonna have to go some to top that little lot... but i am confident she will.
Thank you for the information. The mis-spent millions and lack of understanding of the local culture does sound horribly familiar. Katrien will feel right at home!
It is in a supporters DNA to to moan and gripe about their club and it's players. It's gone on for generations and is part of the whole football 'thing'. They are not interested in disco dancing, 15 different types of coffee in the tea bar, Pitchside sofas, house music in the lounges...I could go on. They just want to turn up. Meet up with mates,See a bit of passion for the shirt and have a moan if they're not happy.
interested to know id anyone knows if the SWFC CEO Job was publically advertised ?
I don't think it needs to be. We are not a publicly traded compnay. Have no Committee or Board. We have an Owner/Chairman. He can do and does do as he sees fit.
To be fair to him, he took immediate action on a lot of the stuff that had been desperately under invested in over the years. He is not a Vincent Tan type. Far from it, he's quite personable, he's open to discussion with the fans but the answer is invariably well, that's what I've decided and that's what's happening'.
What he is though is incredibly inexperienced. I think he takes great offence at being wronged as well. We have had players on our books for over 2 years nowhere near the team for reasons we are not 100% sure of yet they would be left to rot rather than be sold/loaned out.
The George Hirst situation is an interesting one. Its very polarising because we don't know the facts and in equal measures people blame the club, agents and player. This is an England under 18 striker, son of local legend David Hirst, scorer of shed loads of goals at every level he has played including International. He is under contract to us until the end of the season yet has not kicked a ball for us at any level, full, reserve or youth all season and we have refused to let him go on loan.
On one side, people say we have offered a derisory contract (rumoured at £2k a week) for a player who can just go to a PL academy and get £10k. On the other side, it is suggested we have made a very fair contract offer far above what anyone in his position can demand but that the player or his agents are being greedy and looking for first team money for a player that has only made a couple of sub appearances and is not first team ready.
We will probably never know the truth. We turned down £2m from Leicester for him in the summer and our only good prospect in the last 20 years, Wednesday fan and son of a legend, will almost certainly never be seen in our shirt again. The whole sorry mess is either a bitter indictment of our club or shows that the player is just a greedy little toerag. Depends who you ask.
Either way, he will probably go on a free in the summer, routed through a European feeder club or Celtic to avoid a tribunal fee having to be paid to us.
Sorry to hear about the turmoil you're experiencing. I had no idea things were as bad as they are. Whilst many clubs with questionable owners like Blackburn, Blackpool, Leeds, Orient and obviously Charlton, have been well publicised, it appears the issues at Wednesday have gone largely under the radar.
There are so many parts of your post that will ring a familiar bell with our fans. I'm sure that had we been doing well as a team, many of our fans would have given Duchatelet more time and more credit, and maybe as you say, your good results have given Chansiri a little bit of breathing space.
With Meire coming on board, I fear the worst. Many of us have believed from the start that whilst Meire has her failings and has overseen many failures of her own making, she has been staunchly loyal to Duchatelet and has defended him to the hilt, even on matters where she may not be in agreement. If Chansiri is looking for a yes (wo)man, then he has found one, and she will do and say whatever the owner wants, regardless of what the fans think. At least that's how it's been here at Charlton.
I wish you all the best, this could be a testing time for your fans, and I hope that you'll find the togetherness that Charlton fans found, to fight back against any policies that might go against the ethos and traditions of the club.
Thanks for taking the time to fill us in on Wednesday's woes. I didn't realise they were in quite such a state.
Sadly, I don't think Daisy has the skills to turn it around. She certainly doesn't have the 'common touch' that might help smooth things over with fans.
It sounds as if the SW owner has decided iv'e put in a fortune to get to the Premier league but not anymore , unlike Roland. If he thinks he can now run the club as a business it is the beginning of a downward spiral. Employing KM will just speed it up a bit
It sounds as if the SW owner has decided iv'e put in a fortune to get to the Premier league but not anymore , unlike Roland. If he thinks he can now run the club as a business it is the beginning of a downward spiral. Employing KM will just speed it up a bit
The fact that the wendies made a KM thread a members only one suggests that they don't want outside attention from the club itself...and they may already be planning a form of demonstration if on field and off field problems continue.
I hope for them and for footballs soul that they do these as early as possible to make things very clear that they do not want to be told how they support their club and that the owner can F*ck right off.
The early signs are there and bad owners have spread their wings enough times elsewhere for people to see where it might be heading.
Kill the virus early on before it spreads out of control.
Won't do any harm.
The real difference is that some are happy with that at all costs where for some, like me, the club is a lot more than what happens on the pitch.
Seems like all the hard work has already been done by your owner and Katie has just been brought in as the cherry on top of the cake. At least it puts her appointment in some context. Good luck @londonowl think you have a bumpy road ahead at SWFC
@londonowl Thanks very much for the info. You sound very ITK about the website, you're not part of the admin are you? I ask because I applied for membership earlier in the week. I was keen to post some info about Meire, and am disappointed that it's still 'awaiting validation'. I know other Charlton fans had posted stuff and was keen to join the party. Perhaps the people running it are wary of who might be joining, or perhaps they're already sick of all the bad news stories emanating from Charlton.
Anyway, looking at the list of stuff that's happened to Wednesday already I've got to ask the question are we absolutely sure that Daisy only started there on Monday - it looks like she might have been moonlighting to me. Good luck with your struggles.
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They'll tar n feather her!
There is a real mixed bag amongst supporters ranging from long-term season ticket holders packing it in (including one who had only missed one home match in 46 years and stopped going before Christmas) to these who are grateful for what they see as stability brought by the current Chairman.
The vast majority of us sit somewhere in the middle at the moment. Of course we are glad to be rid of winding up orders etc from the past and are starved of success after nearly 20 years out of the top flight so the investment in the playing squad was welcome. The real difference is that some are happy with that at all costs where for some, like me, the club is a lot more than what happens on the pitch.
The long and short of it is that from the start (3 years) our Chairman has invested pretty heavily and asked us to do the same with high ticket prices, merchandise cost etc. Most of us took that without too many complaints but now, as the wheels appear to come off a bit, it's the fans who are getting the blame. We've been accused of not supporting the club enough, not singing loud enough, being on the player's backs etc etc but little responsibility has been accepted by anyone else.
The way the Chairman sees it, he is sticking in £1m a month just to cover the bills and for that we have to be eternally grateful and not really question it. The way some of the fans see it, p**s poor decision making has left in the position of being a club losing £1m a month whilst supporting an ageing, expensive, underperforming squad no nearer the Premier League than we were nearly £100m ago. Sure it's not our £100m but we are constantly being told that everything has to be expensive because of FFP and that we must support the club.
All secondary income was kicked aside. Corporate boxes pretty much doubled in price overnight and are more expensive than Chelsea, Man City etc. They are empty. Match sponsorship, player sponsorship, match ball sponsorship, everything is uber expensive and not being taken up. Our shirt is sponsored by "Chansiri" , the owner. The seats spelling SWFC in the stands were removed and replaced with "CHANSIRI". I think i read somewhere it was about £600 to be a mascot.
All this is justified by the Chairman because he says he has put in as much money as FFP allows (hence the self sponsorship etc). The real problem however is how it was spent.
Small things. Our badge was changed. No reason and the new one is s**t. The stripes have gone and we are playing in what is essentially an Ipswich kit. The replica kit turned up in November. This is our 150th anniversary year and almost nothing has been done to mark it. The promised marquee friendly never materialised, 'Community Events' have either been none existent or have been incredibly underwhelming.
One of our latest schemes, 'The 1867 Club' is straight out of the Leeds handbook. £2100 gets you a bronze plaque on your seat saying '1867 Member' and a 3 year season ticket WHEN WE GET TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE. Basically, Chairman says lend me £2100 and I will give it back to you if we get promoted. He seems to be personally affronted that he was slated for the idea.
We've upset him is the long and short of it. He has claimed we are all family and he is doing all he can to make us successful but that we need to do our bit. He seems to have taken the opinion that we are not. Well Mr Chairman, where I come from, paying £705 for a season ticket to watch second tier football and £49 for a match ticket is doing our bit.
The Chairman has been largely popular since he arrived. The tide is definitely turning. Maybe it's related to the performances on the pitch but personally, I think it runs a lot deeper than that and has been masked for the last couple of seasons by giving desperate fans two Play-Off appearances to show how rosy everything is.
I didn't mean to write a diatribe on the inner workings of SWFC but as we mover forward and some follow the progess of the new CEO, maybe a little background about her starting point will help.
It is in a supporters DNA to to moan and gripe about their club and it's players. It's gone on for generations and is part of the whole football 'thing'.
They are not interested in disco dancing, 15 different types of coffee in the tea bar, Pitchside sofas, house music in the lounges...I could go on.
They just want to turn up. Meet up with mates,See a bit of passion for the shirt and have a moan if they're not happy.
They will never change so embrace it or piss off!
To be fair to him, he took immediate action on a lot of the stuff that had been desperately under invested in over the years. He is not a Vincent Tan type. Far from it, he's quite personable, he's open to discussion with the fans but the answer is invariably well, that's what I've decided and that's what's happening'.
What he is though is incredibly inexperienced. I think he takes great offence at being wronged as well. We have had players on our books for over 2 years nowhere near the team for reasons we are not 100% sure of yet they would be left to rot rather than be sold/loaned out.
The George Hirst situation is an interesting one. Its very polarising because we don't know the facts and in equal measures people blame the club, agents and player. This is an England under 18 striker, son of local legend David Hirst, scorer of shed loads of goals at every level he has played including International. He is under contract to us until the end of the season yet has not kicked a ball for us at any level, full, reserve or youth all season and we have refused to let him go on loan.
On one side, people say we have offered a derisory contract (rumoured at £2k a week) for a player who can just go to a PL academy and get £10k. On the other side, it is suggested we have made a very fair contract offer far above what anyone in his position can demand but that the player or his agents are being greedy and looking for first team money for a player that has only made a couple of sub appearances and is not first team ready.
We will probably never know the truth. We turned down £2m from Leicester for him in the summer and our only good prospect in the last 20 years, Wednesday fan and son of a legend, will almost certainly never be seen in our shirt again. The whole sorry mess is either a bitter indictment of our club or shows that the player is just a greedy little toerag. Depends who you ask.
Either way, he will probably go on a free in the summer, routed through a European feeder club or Celtic to avoid a tribunal fee having to be paid to us.
Sorry to hear about the turmoil you're experiencing. I had no idea things were as bad as they are. Whilst many clubs with questionable owners like Blackburn, Blackpool, Leeds, Orient and obviously Charlton, have been well publicised, it appears the issues at Wednesday have gone largely under the radar.
There are so many parts of your post that will ring a familiar bell with our fans. I'm sure that had we been doing well as a team, many of our fans would have given Duchatelet more time and more credit, and maybe as you say, your good results have given Chansiri a little bit of breathing space.
With Meire coming on board, I fear the worst. Many of us have believed from the start that whilst Meire has her failings and has overseen many failures of her own making, she has been staunchly loyal to Duchatelet and has defended him to the hilt, even on matters where she may not be in agreement. If Chansiri is looking for a yes (wo)man, then he has found one, and she will do and say whatever the owner wants, regardless of what the fans think. At least that's how it's been here at Charlton.
I wish you all the best, this could be a testing time for your fans, and I hope that you'll find the togetherness that Charlton fans found, to fight back against any policies that might go against the ethos and traditions of the club.
Sadly, I don't think Daisy has the skills to turn it around. She certainly doesn't have the 'common touch' that might help smooth things over with fans.
I'm afraid that cow tailing to the very rich continues unless...Viva la revolution from all football club fans (apart from Man Utd).
All power to you @londonowl
Anyway, looking at the list of stuff that's happened to Wednesday already I've got to ask the question are we absolutely sure that Daisy only started there on Monday - it looks like she might have been moonlighting to me. Good luck with your struggles.