And people are surprised he employed KM! Match made in heaven it is beginning to seem.
Seems so.
He clearly wanted someone experienced in dealing with (ignoring) unhappy fans for him and so who better than KM.
Nail on the head there. He can’t take any flak. As far as he’s concerned all he’s done is spend £100m on us because ‘he is part of the Wednesday family now’ and we should be eternally grateful, not daring to question him.
The fact that he bought the club for a knockdown £35m with dreams of Premier League riches and has managed to waste the other £60m on overpaid, over the hill ‘stars’ on ridiculously long contracts (Steven Fletcher 40k a week for 4 years anyone) whilst putting prices up to pretty much the highest in the division, plastering his name over everything and basically shutting out all local businesses or other sponsorship seems lost on him.
The biggest worry about us taking on KM is the fact that she seems to have no shame and will push through absolutely anything regardless of what anyone thinks.
That for me is a clear sign of our owners intentions now. Not necessarily how he started but he hasn’t been able to handle the criticism so I guess he is going to spend more time in Thailand and let KM take the flak for what I assume will be increasingly ‘nasty’ pronouncements.
This is how the owner is going to run your club & you'll just have to get used to it
And people are surprised he employed KM! Match made in heaven it is beginning to seem.
Seems so.
He clearly wanted someone experienced in dealing with (ignoring) unhappy fans for him and so who better than KM.
Nail on the head there. He can’t take any flak. As far as he’s concerned all he’s done is spend £100m on us because ‘he is part of the Wednesday family now’ and we should be eternally grateful, not daring to question him.
The fact that he bought the club for a knockdown £35m with dreams of Premier League riches and has managed to waste the other £60m on overpaid, over the hill ‘stars’ on ridiculously long contracts (Steven Fletcher 40k a week for 4 years anyone) whilst putting prices up to pretty much the highest in the division, plastering his name over everything and basically shutting out all local businesses or other sponsorship seems lost on him.
The biggest worry about us taking on KM is the fact that she seems to have no shame and will push through absolutely anything regardless of what anyone thinks.
That for me is a clear sign of our owners intentions now. Not necessarily how he started but he hasn’t been able to handle the criticism so I guess he is going to spend more time in Thailand and let KM take the flak for what I assume will be increasingly ‘nasty’ pronouncements.
This is how the owner is going to run your club & you'll just have to get used to it
It's not his club, he's just a customer. It's the shareholders club.
Owls Beware Katy`s how to handle criticism hand book ----your all xenophobic ----your all sexist
if that dosnt work get a very expensive PR company to trawl google etc and get the the flack removed
if that dont work get said PR company to trawl through social media and trump up a case for Malicious Communication ----make sure they remove thousands of threads and context and attempt to be a victim.
when the above dont work stay silent for a year while the club goes down the toilet and then move on.
Owls Beware Katy`s how to handle criticism hand book ----your all xenophobic ----your all sexist
if that dosnt work get a very expensive PR company to trawl google etc and get the the flack removed
if that dont work get said PR company to trawl through social media and trump up a case for Malicious Communication ----make sure they remove thousands of threads and context and attempt to be a victim.
when the above dont work stay silent for a year while the club goes down the toilet and then move on.
@londonowl I've not really been following Wednesday's fortunes recently, but these posts are a real eye opener! How do the FA keep allowing these people to buy football clubs ffs?
@londonowl Thanks very much for the info. You sound very ITK about the website, you're not part of the admin are you? I ask because I applied for membership earlier in the week. I was keen to post some info about Meire, and am disappointed that it's still 'awaiting validation'. I know other Charlton fans had posted stuff and was keen to join the party. Perhaps the people running it are wary of who might be joining, or perhaps they're already sick of all the bad news stories emanating from Charlton.
He changed the seats from SWFC to spell out his own name instead?! Even Roly ain't that bad!
This is the point where alarm bells would have been ringing for me.
In some respects here lies the problem, with us as football fans. Alarm bells may have been ringing when their owner put his name on the seats and on their shirts, but all the while they are getting to play-offs, these bells are ignored and anyone who voices a concern is labelled a bed-wetter. Down here in Charlton, how many times after a few poor results did people who were previously in the “they have changed” or “let’s see where we are on….” camps chip in with “why the feck are CARD not doing anything?”
interested to know id anyone knows if the SWFC CEO Job was publically advertised ?
just wondering if she actually got the job in competition with a number of candidates or she may have been poached/headhunted for her particular talents (which are ,of course,unknown to us all)
He changed the seats from SWFC to spell out his own name instead?! Even Roly ain't that bad!
This is the point where alarm bells would have been ringing for me.
In some respects here lies the problem, with us as football fans. Alarm bells may have been ringing when their owner put his name on the seats and on their shirts, but all the while they are getting to play-offs, these bells are ignored and anyone who voices a concern is labelled a bed-wetter. Down here in Charlton, how many times after a few poor results did people who were previously in the “they have changed” or “let’s see where we are on….” camps chip in with “why the feck are CARD not doing anything?”
So accurate, mate. It also works both ways, as when the results begin to go wrong and the dissent begins, it's all to easy for the owners and management to say "Yeah, well this is all because of results." - neglecting the real issues.
Anecdotally, I remember sitting watching one of Fraeye's only winning games - after one of the first protests - where I think we played Sheffield Wednesday. I remember discussing it with my brother at the time, and feeling odd because I felt it was better for the club in the long run for us to lose - as I didn't want to see the protests dwindle over a few shallow fans chasing the points without a care for anything else.
The fact that the wendies made a KM thread a members only one suggests that they don't want outside attention from the club itself...and they may already be planning a form of demonstration if on field and off field problems continue.
I hope for them and for footballs soul that they do these as early as possible to make things very clear that they do not want to be told how they support their club and that the owner can F*ck right off.
The early signs are there and bad owners have spread their wings enough times elsewhere for people to see where it might be heading.
Kill the virus early on before it spreads out of control.
Won't do any harm.
It's not quite like that with the forum. We have been though a lot in the past with previous incumbents and have seen legal action against our own fans, including some forum members, by previous incumbents. The reason the boardroom section is members only is historical. The reason KM threads have been moved into it is firstly because there were loads of them and that's where they belong and secondly as a chance to drive some traffic through the now pretty much defunct boardroom section.
There is a real mixed bag amongst supporters ranging from long-term season ticket holders packing it in (including one who had only missed one home match in 46 years and stopped going before Christmas) to these who are grateful for what they see as stability brought by the current Chairman.
The vast majority of us sit somewhere in the middle at the moment. Of course we are glad to be rid of winding up orders etc from the past and are starved of success after nearly 20 years out of the top flight so the investment in the playing squad was welcome. The real difference is that some are happy with that at all costs where for some, like me, the club is a lot more than what happens on the pitch.
The long and short of it is that from the start (3 years) our Chairman has invested pretty heavily and asked us to do the same with high ticket prices, merchandise cost etc. Most of us took that without too many complaints but now, as the wheels appear to come off a bit, it's the fans who are getting the blame. We've been accused of not supporting the club enough, not singing loud enough, being on the player's backs etc etc but little responsibility has been accepted by anyone else.
The way the Chairman sees it, he is sticking in £1m a month just to cover the bills and for that we have to be eternally grateful and not really question it. The way some of the fans see it, p**s poor decision making has left in the position of being a club losing £1m a month whilst supporting an ageing, expensive, underperforming squad no nearer the Premier League than we were nearly £100m ago. Sure it's not our £100m but we are constantly being told that everything has to be expensive because of FFP and that we must support the club.
All secondary income was kicked aside. Corporate boxes pretty much doubled in price overnight and are more expensive than Chelsea, Man City etc. They are empty. Match sponsorship, player sponsorship, match ball sponsorship, everything is uber expensive and not being taken up. Our shirt is sponsored by "Chansiri" , the owner. The seats spelling SWFC in the stands were removed and replaced with "CHANSIRI". I think i read somewhere it was about £600 to be a mascot.
All this is justified by the Chairman because he says he has put in as much money as FFP allows (hence the self sponsorship etc). The real problem however is how it was spent.
Small things. Our badge was changed. No reason and the new one is s**t. The stripes have gone and we are playing in what is essentially an Ipswich kit. The replica kit turned up in November. This is our 150th anniversary year and almost nothing has been done to mark it. The promised marquee friendly never materialised, 'Community Events' have either been none existent or have been incredibly underwhelming.
One of our latest schemes, 'The 1867 Club' is straight out of the Leeds handbook. £2100 gets you a bronze plaque on your seat saying '1867 Member' and a 3 year season ticket WHEN WE GET TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE. Basically, Chairman says lend me £2100 and I will give it back to you if we get promoted. He seems to be personally affronted that he was slated for the idea.
We've upset him is the long and short of it. He has claimed we are all family and he is doing all he can to make us successful but that we need to do our bit. He seems to have taken the opinion that we are not. Well Mr Chairman, where I come from, paying £705 for a season ticket to watch second tier football and £49 for a match ticket is doing our bit.
The Chairman has been largely popular since he arrived. The tide is definitely turning. Maybe it's related to the performances on the pitch but personally, I think it runs a lot deeper than that and has been masked for the last couple of seasons by giving desperate fans two Play-Off appearances to show how rosy everything is.
I didn't mean to write a diatribe on the inner workings of SWFC but as we mover forward and some follow the progess of the new CEO, maybe a little background about her starting point will help.
Blimey, I had no idea your club was in such a state @londonowl . Changing the seats - can you imagine if that was at Millwall.
I wonder how many other clubs are in such a state yet go under the general fan's radar?
Difference is if RD was to change the seats from CAFC to his name he would have sold at least 3 academy products to fund it and th3n only get as far as removing the screws from the old seats and drilling some holes for water drainage. Completetion date summer 2027.
Still thays what happens when you make a tea boy project manager over a large and complex project.
Difference is if RD was to change the seats from CAFC to his name he would have sold at least 3 academy products to fund it and th3n only get as far as removing the screws from the old seats and drilling some holes for water drainage. Completetion date summer 2027.
Still thays what happens when you make a tea boy project manager over a large and complex project.
He changed the seats from SWFC to spell out his own name instead?! Even Roly ain't that bad!
That should have sent shivers down the spine of every fan. And the delusion among the fans on Owlstalk that is was a good thing is amazing to read. The only other person I can think of who puts his name on structures he owns to advertise himself is Trump.
He changed the seats from SWFC to spell out his own name instead?! Even Roly ain't that bad!
That should have sent shivers down the spine of every fan. And the delusion among the fans on Owlstalk that is was a good thing is amazing to read. The only other person I can think of who puts his name on structures he owns to advertise himself is Trump.
We have this clown over here called Ronald Macdonald, he puts his name all over the structures he owns and all the crap within them - can you even imagine that?
He changed the seats from SWFC to spell out his own name instead?! Even Roly ain't that bad!
That should have sent shivers down the spine of every fan. And the delusion among the fans on Owlstalk that is was a good thing is amazing to read. The only other person I can think of who puts his name on structures he owns to advertise himself is Trump.
Remind me of Reading's grounds' name and how much did it cost?
He changed the seats from SWFC to spell out his own name instead?! Even Roly ain't that bad!
That should have sent shivers down the spine of every fan. And the delusion among the fans on Owlstalk that is was a good thing is amazing to read. The only other person I can think of who puts his name on structures he owns to advertise himself is Trump.
We have this clown over here called Ronald Macdonald, he puts his name all over the structures he owns and all the crap within them - can you even imagine that?
Interestingly he has this thing called the pound saver menu in his "restaurants" where everything on it has an enterprise value of £73....
He changed the seats from SWFC to spell out his own name instead?! Even Roly ain't that bad!
That should have sent shivers down the spine of every fan. And the delusion among the fans on Owlstalk that is was a good thing is amazing to read. The only other person I can think of who puts his name on structures he owns to advertise himself is Trump.
We have this clown over here called Ronald Macdonald, he puts his name all over the structures he owns and all the crap within them - can you even imagine that?
Interestingly he has this thing called the pound saver menu in his "restaurants" where everything on it has an enterprise value of £73....
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Katy`s how to handle criticism hand book
----your all xenophobic
----your all sexist
if that dosnt work get a very expensive PR company to trawl google etc and get the the flack removed
if that dont work get said PR company to trawl through social media and trump up a case for Malicious Communication ----make sure they remove thousands of threads and context and attempt to be a victim.
when the above dont work stay silent for a year while the club goes down the toilet and then move on.
its coming
Would be handy if they had someone who spoke Dutch at a senior level.
Alarm bells may have been ringing when their owner put his name on the seats and on their shirts, but all the while they are getting to play-offs, these bells are ignored and anyone who voices a concern is labelled a bed-wetter. Down here in Charlton, how many times after a few poor results did people who were previously in the “they have changed” or “let’s see where we are on….” camps chip in with “why the feck are CARD not doing anything?”
Anecdotally, I remember sitting watching one of Fraeye's only winning games - after one of the first protests - where I think we played Sheffield Wednesday. I remember discussing it with my brother at the time, and feeling odd because I felt it was better for the club in the long run for us to lose - as I didn't want to see the protests dwindle over a few shallow fans chasing the points without a care for anything else.
I wonder how many other clubs are in such a state yet go under the general fan's radar?
https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/247142-is-this-right/
Still thays what happens when you make a tea boy project manager over a large and complex project.