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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Sorry to butt in this way but isn't the real question who is dealing with the financials? Or maybe it is such a minor role it doesn't matter.
    As this transfer window kicks off it looks like we have an absentee owner, dealing with Richard Murray by phone or something, doing the doings on the player football front. Cojones runs everything else including trench inspections, and there is nobody to count the pennies. Chris Parke's runs the fixtures and needs access to money for the incidental football related spending.
    Doesn't look too solid to run a serious football club.
    When agents call who are they put through to? I know it was never Joyes, but there seems to be a decision making communication issue brewing and possibly a lack of financial information forthcoming.
    Or is Roland across all this stuff?
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958

    rikofold said:

    Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Good luck to Mr Joyes. He’s a really nice guy and a family man.

    No need for any animosity in his direction.

    His departure presumably means he is no longer required

    I'd dispute the first two points.

    I'd question why he's no longer needed though @Swisdom a takeover and a transfer window plus normal operation of the business and we have no CEO or FD to either run the club or hand it over.
    Not had many dealings with him but those I have have been amiable. Not heard people talk about him like Keohane so assumed he was fairly well liked.

    My assumption is it is pretty much a done deal and so they are free to go. If this drags for more than a week or two our season is over so prospective owners are likely to want to move at pace.

    As with Meire - strange time to go as the takeover would probably lead to a redundancy payout...unless that’s already sorted

    He may well be more amicable than Keohane but that is a very low benchmark. The views I have heard expressed about him were less than favourable, shall we say.

    I'm not one of those drawing up a list of quislings to have their heads shaved on the pitch but Joyes held a very senior role in this regime and the last. He knew what he was doing.
    I've got a lot of time for David Joyes. I've worked with him on VG and he's a nice guy, family man, and very professional.

    There have been compromises along the way, which is undoubtedly understating it as we both know (especially under the spivs), but for me he's not one for the gallows. I got the impression more than once that mistakes of the past (knowing or otherwise) wouldn't be repeated moving forward. Company man, that said.

    Job opportunity at the club he supports, timing coincides with huge changes and unknowns with his current employer. Who'd blame him really.
    Don't blame him for taking the job and he may well have gone for it regardless of the situation at Charlton given that he's from that area.

    I do blame him for his actions while FD at Charlton and for his active support of KM in her disastrous mismanagement of the club.
    I also question his cooperation with the financial policies of the previous regime when two directors (one of them a qualified accountant) had declined to continue their own involvement on ethical grounds.
    He was also just plain wrong in not disclosing KM's emoluments in the accounts.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    seth plum said:

    Sorry to butt in this way but isn't the real question who is dealing with the financials? Or maybe it is such a minor role it doesn't matter.
    As this transfer window kicks off it looks like we have an absentee owner, dealing with Richard Murray by phone or something, doing the doings on the player football front. Cojones runs everything else including trench inspections, and there is nobody to count the pennies. Chris Parke's runs the fixtures and needs access to money for the incidental football related spending.
    Doesn't look too solid to run a serious football club.
    When agents call who are they put through to? I know it was never Joyes, but there seems to be a decision making communication issue brewing and possibly a lack of financial information forthcoming.
    Or is Roland across all this stuff?

    I've heard that Vera, the tea lady has now been promoted to senior tea lady and had her financial limits raised to £15k so she can now sign off any new player acquisitions.

  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    SLP reporting that Joyes is going to Middlesbrough
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Ah, it is out then.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    edited January 2018
    Can we all stop talking about him being a family man, means nothing in this context. It’s how he’s acted in his role and his defence of the regime I have a problem with. On that account I hold him as an ally of the regime and I’m glad he’s gone.
  • I'm a family man. Doesn't mean I don't go out every weekend, get coked up, have a fight then shag a brass does it?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    mart77 said:

    SLP reporting that Joyes is going to Middlesbrough

    Undisclosed.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Technically Roland Duchatelet is a family man. He even bought his son a football club, not to mention what he did for Katrien Meire.
  • I'm a family man. Doesn't mean I don't go out every weekend, get coked up, have a fight then shag a brass does it?

    Are you reading this Otto?
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  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    J BLOCK said:

    Can we all stop talking about him being a family man, means nothing in this context. It’s how he’s acted in his role and his defence of the regime I have a problem with. On that account I hold him as an ally of the regime and I’m glad he’s gone.

    In a similar fashion I remember hearing what a nice guy Kevin Muscat was off the pitch but I didn’t give a fiddlers fart as he was such a scumbag on it!
  • I'm guessing we're all angelic on here. Jeez. Move on guys
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225

    I'm guessing we're all angelic on here. Jeez. Move on guys

    No, but thanks all the same
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    so has he gone yet? Is he/has he been/being replaced?
  • I wonder if he's having a bit of a do?
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,420
    edited February 2018

    so has he gone yet? Is he/has he been/being replaced?

    Went friday I believe.
  • Arry Addick
    Arry Addick Posts: 1,168

    I wonder if he's having a bit of a do?

    Millers in Bexley...this Friday.

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    T_C_E said:

    so has he gone yet? Is he/has he been/being replaced?

    Went friday I believe.
    Looks that way.

    OS staff list:

    Director: Roland Duchâtelet

    Director: Richard Murray

    Honorary Life President: Sir Maurice Hatter

    Club Ambassador: Keith Peacock

    FINANCE

    Finance Manager: Emma Parker

    Payroll Manager: Belinda Miller

    Credit Control/ Bookkeeper: Esperance Kabanyana

    Purchase Ledger Administrator: Bethany Webb

    OPERATIONS

    Chief Operating Officer: Tony Keohane

    Operations Manager: Paul Bailey

    Head Groundsman – The Valley: Nathan Chapman

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    What happened to the ex copper?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045

    What happened to the ex copper?

    He probably slid out when squirrel face brought in the blue jackets.
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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    What with a massive part of his portfolio disappearing with the halting of the works at Sparrows Lane, Keohane must have a lot more time to carry out other duties at the Club.

    Well someone has to clear the snow from the car park.

    Wrap up warm Tony.
  • CharltonKerry
    CharltonKerry Posts: 2,960
    Knowing how efficient and intelligent he is, he will be filling the pot holes in the car park with the left over snow and ice.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Esperance Kabanyana is an amazing name.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,969
    se9addick said:

    Esperance Kabanyana is an amazing name.

    It means "let's hope he's gone tomorrow"

    (RD, obviously)
  • AshBurton
    AshBurton Posts: 1,142
    Arrived on time, it seems...

    https://www.mfc.co.uk/david-joyes
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    How big is the accounts department?

    Was it just him?
  • AshBurton
    AshBurton Posts: 1,142
    LenGlover said:

    How big is the accounts department?

    Was it just him?

    Four of them - see @carly burn's list a few posts earlier. The former CFO role has been replaced - at least temporarily - by a Finance Manager, Emma Parker, who joined in November. Her main previous job was as a controller at Commerzbank, that well-known Bundesliga club.