Chris Powell to Southend? (Confirmed P4)
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Bowyer is the man in possession and doing a fine job and no one in their right mind would want that to change that and SCP is in the Charlton past
But saying shit like “totally unproven manager” about Sir Chris Powell will always be called out .
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Like I said it was the wrong choice of words.oohaahmortimer said:Bowyer is the man in possession and doing a fine job and no one in their right mind would want that to change that and SCP is in the Charlton past
But saying shit like “totally unproven manager” about Sir Chris Powell will always be called out .3 -
Maybe :-)0
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If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
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Move on, Bowyer and Jacko are the new dream team, with the toxic ownership and the squad we have they are both doing a wonderful job.3
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Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!i_b_b_o_r_g said:
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
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Take your point, but I still cant understand why it would be anyone's dream for CP to come back at this moment in time as Manager or DOFAirman Brown said:
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!i_b_b_o_r_g said:
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.1 -
Me neither, but I think you undervalue what Powell did in extremely difficult circumstances. People forget or don’t understand what was going on behind the scenes in 12/13 - never mind 13/14 when people were seriously advocating playing Joe Pigott as first/choice striker at the start of the season - in the Championship, aged 19.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Take your point, but I still cant understand why it would be anyone's dream for CP to come back at this moment in time as Manager or DOFAirman Brown said:
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!i_b_b_o_r_g said:
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.9 -
All undeniably true but he didn’t push on his career at Huddersfield and was sacked. He’s doing a decent enough job at Southend and it’s early days for him there but in the next season or two he needs to push Southend beyond the sum of its parts in order to be considered a catch by other clubs. Would I take Sir Chris back over Lee Bowyer. Not a chance.Airman Brown said:
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!i_b_b_o_r_g said:
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
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Let’s hope that remains the choice beyond May.ShootersHillGuru said:
All undeniably true but he didn’t push on his career at Huddersfield and was sacked. He’s doing a decent enough job at Southend and it’s early days for him there but in the next season or two he needs to push Southend beyond the sum of its parts in order to be considered a catch by other clubs. Would I take Sir Chris back over Lee Bowyer. Not a chance.Airman Brown said:
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!i_b_b_o_r_g said:
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.1 - Sponsored links:
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Any idea roughly how the wage bill compares to Southend at present? Appreciate the figures published but that really just highlights how difficult the job was for Slade. Be interesting to know out of the £11.1m how much of that was on the likes of Vetokele or Teixiera for example players who couldn't be shifted just draining the wage bill.Airman Brown said:
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!i_b_b_o_r_g said:
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
I expect our current wage bill is considerably less than 16/17 and a lot closer to Southend's now or at least what it was in 16/171 -
The gap will be smaller but my guess is ours is still double theirs. Vetokele is still here, for a start, but wasn’t in the wage bill for most of 16/17.MartinCAFC said:
Any idea roughly how the wage bill compares to Southend at present? Appreciate the figures published but that really just highlights how difficult the job was for Slade. Be interesting to know out of the £11.1m how much of that was on the likes of Vetokele or Teixiera for example players who couldn't be shifted just draining the wage bill.Airman Brown said:
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!i_b_b_o_r_g said:
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
I expect our current wage bill is considerably less than 16/17 and a lot closer to Southend's now or at least what it was in 16/17
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Weren't we still subsidising wages for players loaned out like Vetokele? I thought that was half the problem with the wage bill players loaned out and we were still covering a good chunk of the wages?Airman Brown said:
The gap will be smaller but my guess is ours is still double theirs. Vetokele is still here, for a start, but wasn’t in the wage bill for most of 16/17.MartinCAFC said:
Any idea roughly how the wage bill compares to Southend at present? Appreciate the figures published but that really just highlights how difficult the job was for Slade. Be interesting to know out of the £11.1m how much of that was on the likes of Vetokele or Teixiera for example players who couldn't be shifted just draining the wage bill.Airman Brown said:
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!i_b_b_o_r_g said:
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
I expect our current wage bill is considerably less than 16/17 and a lot closer to Southend's now or at least what it was in 16/170 -
Yes, fair point, but you can’t claim him - or Sarr - as a reduction in the current year compared to 16/17. They will be a higher cost in 18/19.
In any case, my point is that Southend cannot compete in general not just against Charlton. They are pretty much where you’d expect them to be.0 -
Hi Martin...... I have just PM’d you.MartinCAFC said:
Weren't we still subsidising wages for players loaned out like Vetokele? I thought that was half the problem with the wage bill players loaned out and we were still covering a good chunk of the wages?Airman Brown said:
The gap will be smaller but my guess is ours is still double theirs. Vetokele is still here, for a start, but wasn’t in the wage bill for most of 16/17.MartinCAFC said:
Any idea roughly how the wage bill compares to Southend at present? Appreciate the figures published but that really just highlights how difficult the job was for Slade. Be interesting to know out of the £11.1m how much of that was on the likes of Vetokele or Teixiera for example players who couldn't be shifted just draining the wage bill.Airman Brown said:
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!i_b_b_o_r_g said:
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconveneoohaahmortimer said:Maybe :-)
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
I expect our current wage bill is considerably less than 16/17 and a lot closer to Southend's now or at least what it was in 16/17
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Our wage bill is partially a reflection of past mistakes as it is of the worth of the squad, and especially of our previous Championship status
I imagine our highest earners will be the Championship players such as Sarr, Bauer, Vetekele and Solly, the first 3 especially being external signings. If Sarr and Vetekele had (permanently) left last summer it would have significantly reduced our wage bill, and I'm sure Bowyer could have brought in suitable replacements for a fraction of their wages0 -
Indeed, but they are not getting £1m a year each. By which I mean they only account for a fraction of the difference in total.killerandflash said:Our wage bill is partially a reflection of past mistakes as it is of the worth of the squad, and especially of our previous Championship status
I imagine our highest earners will be the Championship players such as Sarr, Bauer, Vetekele and Solly, the first 3 especially being external signings. If Sarr and Vetekele had (permanently) left last summer it would have significantly reduced our wage bill, and I'm sure Bowyer could have brought in suitable replacements for a fraction of their wages0 -
Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.0
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I doubt any are on more than 12k per weekStu_of_Kunming said:Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000
BFG-£10,000
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To be on £1 million a year you are looking at just over 19K per week
No way we giving anyone anywhere near that0 - Sponsored links:
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Personally believe Igor is on around 15k, you are probably abour right with Sarr and Bauer.paulie8290 said:To be on £1 million a year you are looking at just over 19K per week
No way we giving anyone anywhere near that0 -
Heard Igor on £19k per week , source friend of a friend of a friend1
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I'd imagine it's closer to Igor: 20, BFG: 15 and Sarr: 12.paulie8290 said:
I doubt any are on more than 12k per weekStu_of_Kunming said:Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000
BFG-£10,000
Sarr-£10,000
Wages in the Championship are crazy and all those player were signed with a view to getting us promoted, also don't discount the issue of who negotiated those contracts, she's already admitted she allowed herself to get fleeced by agents.2 -
That’s more like it although £20k for Igor is a little much, and Sarr is on more than Bauer.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I'd imagine it's closer to Igor: 20, BFG: 15 and Sarr: 12.paulie8290 said:
I doubt any are on more than 12k per weekStu_of_Kunming said:Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000
BFG-£10,000
Sarr-£10,000
Wages in the Championship are crazy and all those player were signed with a view to getting us promoted, also don't discount the issue of who negotiated those contracts, she's already admitted she allowed herself to get fleeced by agents.
I’d say they’re costing us around £2.2mil between them a year in wages.0 -
Money well spent.......Sage said:
That’s more like it although £20k for Igor is a little much, and Sarr is on more than Bauer.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I'd imagine it's closer to Igor: 20, BFG: 15 and Sarr: 12.paulie8290 said:
I doubt any are on more than 12k per weekStu_of_Kunming said:Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000
BFG-£10,000
Sarr-£10,000
Wages in the Championship are crazy and all those player were signed with a view to getting us promoted, also don't discount the issue of who negotiated those contracts, she's already admitted she allowed herself to get fleeced by agents.
I’d say they’re costing us around £2.2mil between them a year in wages.2 -
Whoever negotiated those was a genius... Katrien wotsername? She's moved onto mahoosive things apparently!ricky_otto said:
Money well spent.......Sage said:
That’s more like it although £20k for Igor is a little much, and Sarr is on more than Bauer.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I'd imagine it's closer to Igor: 20, BFG: 15 and Sarr: 12.paulie8290 said:
I doubt any are on more than 12k per weekStu_of_Kunming said:Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000
BFG-£10,000
Sarr-£10,000
Wages in the Championship are crazy and all those player were signed with a view to getting us promoted, also don't discount the issue of who negotiated those contracts, she's already admitted she allowed herself to get fleeced by agents.
I’d say they’re costing us around £2.2mil between them a year in wages.0 -
Bows is doing a great job, which could be unfortunate if we were not promoted this year as others will have noted his success.
CP could be the next best choice if things do not go as planned.0 -
Southend recieved a winding up order over unpaid Tax
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/09/southend-unitedhanded-winding-up-order-hm-revenue-customs/0 -
In a new petition, the Gazette official public record website recorded that a new bid by HMRC, "claiming to be Creditors of the Company", will be heard at the High Court on Feb 6.paulie8290 said:Southend recieved a winding up order over unpaid Tax
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/09/southend-unitedhanded-winding-up-order-hm-revenue-customs/0 -
SCP to Luton = compo for Southend = tax man paid.0