If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconvene
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconvene
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
Take your point, but I still cant understand why it would be anyone's dream for CP to come back at this moment in time as Manager or DOF
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconvene
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
Take your point, but I still cant understand why it would be anyone's dream for CP to come back at this moment in time as Manager or DOF
Me neither, but I think you undervalue what Powell did in extremely difficult circumstances. People forget or don’t understand what was going on behind the scenes in 12/13 - never mind 13/14 when people were seriously advocating playing Joe Pigott as first/choice striker at the start of the season - in the Championship, aged 19.
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconvene
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
All undeniably true but he didn’t push on his career at Huddersfield and was sacked. He’s doing a decent enough job at Southend and it’s early days for him there but in the next season or two he needs to push Southend beyond the sum of its parts in order to be considered a catch by other clubs. Would I take Sir Chris back over Lee Bowyer. Not a chance.
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconvene
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
All undeniably true but he didn’t push on his career at Huddersfield and was sacked. He’s doing a decent enough job at Southend and it’s early days for him there but in the next season or two he needs to push Southend beyond the sum of its parts in order to be considered a catch by other clubs. Would I take Sir Chris back over Lee Bowyer. Not a chance.
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconvene
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
Any idea roughly how the wage bill compares to Southend at present? Appreciate the figures published but that really just highlights how difficult the job was for Slade. Be interesting to know out of the £11.1m how much of that was on the likes of Vetokele or Teixiera for example players who couldn't be shifted just draining the wage bill.
I expect our current wage bill is considerably less than 16/17 and a lot closer to Southend's now or at least what it was in 16/17
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconvene
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
Any idea roughly how the wage bill compares to Southend at present? Appreciate the figures published but that really just highlights how difficult the job was for Slade. Be interesting to know out of the £11.1m how much of that was on the likes of Vetokele or Teixiera for example players who couldn't be shifted just draining the wage bill.
I expect our current wage bill is considerably less than 16/17 and a lot closer to Southend's now or at least what it was in 16/17
The gap will be smaller but my guess is ours is still double theirs. Vetokele is still here, for a start, but wasn’t in the wage bill for most of 16/17.
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconvene
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
Any idea roughly how the wage bill compares to Southend at present? Appreciate the figures published but that really just highlights how difficult the job was for Slade. Be interesting to know out of the £11.1m how much of that was on the likes of Vetokele or Teixiera for example players who couldn't be shifted just draining the wage bill.
I expect our current wage bill is considerably less than 16/17 and a lot closer to Southend's now or at least what it was in 16/17
The gap will be smaller but my guess is ours is still double theirs. Vetokele is still here, for a start, but wasn’t in the wage bill for most of 16/17.
Weren't we still subsidising wages for players loaned out like Vetokele? I thought that was half the problem with the wage bill players loaned out and we were still covering a good chunk of the wages?
If he takes Southend down and doesn't get a gig for a couple of seasons, we'll reconvene
Southend’s overall wage bill in their last published accounts (16/17) was £4.7m - Charlton’s was £11.1m. It makes a huge difference. Or should!
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
Any idea roughly how the wage bill compares to Southend at present? Appreciate the figures published but that really just highlights how difficult the job was for Slade. Be interesting to know out of the £11.1m how much of that was on the likes of Vetokele or Teixiera for example players who couldn't be shifted just draining the wage bill.
I expect our current wage bill is considerably less than 16/17 and a lot closer to Southend's now or at least what it was in 16/17
The gap will be smaller but my guess is ours is still double theirs. Vetokele is still here, for a start, but wasn’t in the wage bill for most of 16/17.
Weren't we still subsidising wages for players loaned out like Vetokele? I thought that was half the problem with the wage bill players loaned out and we were still covering a good chunk of the wages?
Our wage bill is partially a reflection of past mistakes as it is of the worth of the squad, and especially of our previous Championship status
I imagine our highest earners will be the Championship players such as Sarr, Bauer, Vetekele and Solly, the first 3 especially being external signings. If Sarr and Vetekele had (permanently) left last summer it would have significantly reduced our wage bill, and I'm sure Bowyer could have brought in suitable replacements for a fraction of their wages
Our wage bill is partially a reflection of past mistakes as it is of the worth of the squad, and especially of our previous Championship status
I imagine our highest earners will be the Championship players such as Sarr, Bauer, Vetekele and Solly, the first 3 especially being external signings. If Sarr and Vetekele had (permanently) left last summer it would have significantly reduced our wage bill, and I'm sure Bowyer could have brought in suitable replacements for a fraction of their wages
Indeed, but they are not getting £1m a year each. By which I mean they only account for a fraction of the difference in total.
Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
I doubt any are on more than 12k per week So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
I doubt any are on more than 12k per week So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000 BFG-£10,000 Sarr-£10,000
I'd imagine it's closer to Igor: 20, BFG: 15 and Sarr: 12.
Wages in the Championship are crazy and all those player were signed with a view to getting us promoted, also don't discount the issue of who negotiated those contracts, she's already admitted she allowed herself to get fleeced by agents.
Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
I doubt any are on more than 12k per week So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000 BFG-£10,000 Sarr-£10,000
I'd imagine it's closer to Igor: 20, BFG: 15 and Sarr: 12.
Wages in the Championship are crazy and all those player were signed with a view to getting us promoted, also don't discount the issue of who negotiated those contracts, she's already admitted she allowed herself to get fleeced by agents.
That’s more like it although £20k for Igor is a little much, and Sarr is on more than Bauer.
I’d say they’re costing us around £2.2mil between them a year in wages.
Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
I doubt any are on more than 12k per week So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000 BFG-£10,000 Sarr-£10,000
I'd imagine it's closer to Igor: 20, BFG: 15 and Sarr: 12.
Wages in the Championship are crazy and all those player were signed with a view to getting us promoted, also don't discount the issue of who negotiated those contracts, she's already admitted she allowed herself to get fleeced by agents.
That’s more like it although £20k for Igor is a little much, and Sarr is on more than Bauer.
I’d say they’re costing us around £2.2mil between them a year in wages.
Surely those 3 cant be on much less than a mill a year, especially Vetokele. Al 3 were sgned in the championship.
I doubt any are on more than 12k per week So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000 BFG-£10,000 Sarr-£10,000
I'd imagine it's closer to Igor: 20, BFG: 15 and Sarr: 12.
Wages in the Championship are crazy and all those player were signed with a view to getting us promoted, also don't discount the issue of who negotiated those contracts, she's already admitted she allowed herself to get fleeced by agents.
That’s more like it although £20k for Igor is a little much, and Sarr is on more than Bauer.
I’d say they’re costing us around £2.2mil between them a year in wages.
Money well spent.......
Whoever negotiated those was a genius... Katrien wotsername? She's moved onto mahoosive things apparently!
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But saying shit like “totally unproven manager” about Sir Chris Powell will always be called out .
Nobody would seriously want to remove Bowyer or change the existing set-up whatever Powell’s merits, past or present, but Powell did outstandingly in the Championship in 12/13 despite being starved of resources. Bowyer has never managed there, so has no comparable record to evaluate.
I expect our current wage bill is considerably less than 16/17 and a lot closer to Southend's now or at least what it was in 16/17
In any case, my point is that Southend cannot compete in general not just against Charlton. They are pretty much where you’d expect them to be.
I imagine our highest earners will be the Championship players such as Sarr, Bauer, Vetekele and Solly, the first 3 especially being external signings. If Sarr and Vetekele had (permanently) left last summer it would have significantly reduced our wage bill, and I'm sure Bowyer could have brought in suitable replacements for a fraction of their wages
So you are looking at at most just over £600,000 per year and Sarr I would guess is probably on less than Igor, I would guess
Igor-£12,000
BFG-£10,000
Sarr-£10,000
No way we giving anyone anywhere near that
Wages in the Championship are crazy and all those player were signed with a view to getting us promoted, also don't discount the issue of who negotiated those contracts, she's already admitted she allowed herself to get fleeced by agents.
I’d say they’re costing us around £2.2mil between them a year in wages.
CP could be the next best choice if things do not go as planned.
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