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Stuttgart deserve some praise too. Relegation play-offs last season to probable Champions league qualifiers this. That's some improvement!1
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St Pauli having fun yesterday: https://x.com/TheyThinkKits/status/17896826812627972562
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Bayer Leverkusen won 5-0 yesterday so only one game left to go in the league (midtable Augsberg at home), Leverkusen need to avoid defeat to become the first ever team to have an unbeaten Bundesliga season.
Also have the DFB-Pokal final v Kaiserslautern, and the Europa League final v Atalanta to come.
Win those and avoid defeat to Augsberg and they'll have won a treble and gone unbeaten in all competitions, would have to considered one of the best seasons ever.3 -
Just a little bit better than our season then!!!!1
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It’s pretty amazing to me that Bayern Munich have never had an unbeaten season in the Bundesliga.
I know it’s difficult to achieve, but they’ve been so dominant for so many years, it feels like they surely must have done it at some point!
The fact that a different club looks like being the first to achieve it is even more remarkable.2 -
It's Leverkusen's mindset which is so incredible. The amount of late goals they've scored to avoid defeat is bonkers. They're just relentless.1
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Would certainly have to be up there.North Lower Neil said:Bayer Leverkusen won 5-0 yesterday so only one game left to go in the league (midtable Augsberg at home), Leverkusen need to avoid defeat to become the first ever team to have an unbeaten Bundesliga season.
Also have the DFB-Pokal final v Kaiserslautern, and the Europa League final v Atalanta to come.
Win those and avoid defeat to Augsberg and they'll have won a treble and gone unbeaten in all competitions, would have to considered one of the best seasons ever.
Only ones in my lifetime that are comparable i think would be:
Inter Milan treble with Mourinho
Man City treble
Man Utd treble
Bayern treble (only side to win the champions league by winning every game - although covid meant the games were knockout format from the quarter final)
Ajax 94-95 (won the league and European cup unbeaten)
Any other good ones i've missed? I've not included ones like Celtic winning a domestic treble unbeaten because it's Scotland.0 -
Why is so much emphasis put on being unbeaten?
great achievement but the Arsenal Invincibles are revered when there have probably been 7 or 8 higher points totals in the Premier League which is surely a better achievement1 -
More emphasis is put on Leverkusen because of where they've come from and having never won the league in their history. That in itself would a great achievement but to also be in with a chance of a treble AND doing it unbeaten is incredible.MrOneLung said:Why is so much emphasis put on being unbeaten?
great achievement but the Arsenal Invincibles are revered when there have probably been 7 or 8 higher points totals in the Premier League which is surely a better achievement
But to your general point i do agree. I don't think Arsenal going a season unbeaten but only getting 90 points is a better achievement than Man City getting 100 points.
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I get your point, you're supposed to win games and get the most points, not just be hard to beat.MrOneLung said:Why is so much emphasis put on being unbeaten?
great achievement but the Arsenal Invincibles are revered when there have probably been 7 or 8 higher points totals in the Premier League which is surely a better achievement
There's something romantic in it though, going a whole season and being able to say no one could beat you. Plus it's rarer than a season where a team just got a lot of points.
Doing something Bayern haven't managed is impressive too given how much Bayern dominate that league.
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90 points was only one off the record for a 38 game season at the time, though.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
More emphasis is put on Leverkusen because of where they've come from and having never won the league in their history. That in itself would a great achievement but to also be in with a chance of a treble AND doing it unbeaten is incredible.MrOneLung said:Why is so much emphasis put on being unbeaten?
great achievement but the Arsenal Invincibles are revered when there have probably been 7 or 8 higher points totals in the Premier League which is surely a better achievement
But to your general point i do agree. I don't think Arsenal going a season unbeaten but only getting 90 points is a better achievement than Man City getting 100 points.
Until Mourinho came along and smashed that the next season with 95.0 -
We could go unbeaten next year but draw every game so would probably go down on 46 points but wahay we're invincibles.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
More emphasis is put on Leverkusen because of where they've come from and having never won the league in their history. That in itself would a great achievement but to also be in with a chance of a treble AND doing it unbeaten is incredible.MrOneLung said:Why is so much emphasis put on being unbeaten?
great achievement but the Arsenal Invincibles are revered when there have probably been 7 or 8 higher points totals in the Premier League which is surely a better achievement
But to your general point i do agree. I don't think Arsenal going a season unbeaten but only getting 90 points is a better achievement than Man City getting 100 points.0 -
It'll be even harder to get tickets to see them next season! Amazing achievement, though.Stig said:St Pauli having fun yesterday: https://x.com/TheyThinkKits/status/1789682681262797256
I'll be in Hamburg this weekend, but to see Altona 93, the champions of the fifth-tier Hamburg Oberliga, in their final match of the regular season. They then go into a play-off with the neighbouring fifth-tier champions to see who goes up into the regional league.3 -
Leverkusen finish the season unbeaten, Stuttgart secure second place, Bayern Munich have to settle for third.2
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Imagine being told as a club you'll be finishing ahead of Bayern Munich this season, but you won't win the league!Algarveaddick said:Leverkusen finish the season unbeaten, Stuttgart secure second place, Bayern Munich have to settle for third.6 -
Two more games to go:Algarveaddick said:Leverkusen finish the season unbeaten, Stuttgart secure second place, Bayern Munich have to settle for third.
22 May - Europa League final against Atalanta
25 May - German Cup final against Kaiserslautern0 -
Incredible season from Leverkusen. If they can win the next two matches then there can’t have been many other seasons as good in football history.1
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Union Berlin stayed up with a 90+2 goal, which looks like it was a rebound from their second missed penalty of the game. Place is absolute bedlam apparently.
Fans don't come much more proper than that lot.3 -
It would be amazing if they did it through all competitions!Stuart_the_Red said:j
Two more games to go:Algarveaddick said:Leverkusen finish the season unbeaten, Stuttgart secure second place, Bayern Munich have to settle for third.
22 May - Europa League final against Atalanta
25 May - German Cup final against Kaiserslautern0 -
@PragueAddick - can’t remember if I mentioned but last summer I read the Union Berlin book you recommended, really good. There’s something very attractive about German football these days, they seem to have found a way to keep their soul better than the other major leagues.PragueAddick said:Union Berlin stayed up with a 90+2 goal, which looks like it was a rebound from their second missed penalty of the game. Place is absolute bedlam apparently.
Fans don't come much more proper than that lot.1 -
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Putting this here as it’s not worthy of a thread of it’s own, but in Portugal Portimonense of the Algarve needed to win and Boavista of Porto needed to lose for Portimonense to avoid the relegation play-off and for Boavista to face that challenge. Portimonense won 3-1, bizarrely Boavista were awarded a penalty in the 101st minute, which they scored to secure the draw they needed…2
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One down, two to go.North Lower Neil said:Bayer Leverkusen won 5-0 yesterday so only one game left to go in the league (midtable Augsberg at home), Leverkusen need to avoid defeat to become the first ever team to have an unbeaten Bundesliga season.
Also have the DFB-Pokal final v Kaiserslautern, and the Europa League final v Atalanta to come.
Win those and avoid defeat to Augsberg and they'll have won a treble and gone unbeaten in all competitions, would have to considered one of the best seasons ever.0 -
Also funny Bayern finished 3rd.1
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When did they last finish that far down the table?0
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I’d love to go to a home Union game, it wouldn’t be that difficult by train but tickets are almost impossible and when I read the book I felt that I wouldn’t want to turn up there as a football tourist.se9addick said:
@PragueAddick - can’t remember if I mentioned but last summer I read the Union Berlin book you recommended, really good. There’s something very attractive about German football these days, they seem to have found a way to keep their soul better than the other major leagues.PragueAddick said:Union Berlin stayed up with a 90+2 goal, which looks like it was a rebound from their second missed penalty of the game. Place is absolute bedlam apparently.
Fans don't come much more proper than that lot.
When they are away at RB Leipzig might be fun. That’s even closer to me and Union lead the national contempt for the artificial club0 -
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Too stupid to be dodgy, surely?North Lower Neil said:Actually the second one looks really odd, as it clearly was a foul, but the ref didnt blow up before the defender picked the ball up. The home team is Magdeburg, BTW, another East German team on the up without any plastic help.Meanwhile in that 18-club league Schalke, in 13th place also drew 2-2 with Hertha Berlin. The attendance was 62,000!!1 -
Schlke are in pretty dire straights at he moment, but you can’t fault their fan base!
I got to go to the Veltins Rena to see Schalke v. Dortmund (very much a Charlton v Millwall type of derby!). The atmosphere was absolutely mental !1
