Disappointed that people think we shouldn't protest. One win ffs! No sign of takeover and quite likely Roly is playing silly buggers with the potential buyers. However on the basis of the feeling CARD had no real choice. The Scunthorpe game is the upbeats game so that's a non-protest game so that leaves Blackburn who will be celebrating promotion that day probably.
Disappointed that people think we shouldn't protest. One win ffs! No sign of takeover and quite likely Roly is playing silly buggers with the potential buyers. However on the basis of the feeling CARD had no real choice. The Scunthorpe game is the upbeats game so that's a non-protest game so that leaves Blackburn who will be celebrating promotion that day probably.
Good old Charlton, always ready to offer extra seats and congratulate teams being promoted on our last home game. Would be good if another team did the same for us
I do understand that there is no point organising a mass protest if the masses do not have the inclination to support it. To that extent, CARD’s decision is the right one, in my opinion.
HOWEVER, I cannot rid myself of the feeling that the fanbase are being played for fools by the (remains of the) Regime. We threaten to protest, and Murray makes a carefully worded statement to CAS Trust, so it is called off. The natives start getting restless, and a second pacification is issued. No need for a third one yet, because Karl leaves and we have one good game which again dampens the calls for action.
I see nothing which convinces me that the takeover is coming any time soon. Although I accept RD does want to sell, it is no skin off his nose to drag things out a bit if he thinks by doing so circumstances will give him a better sale – i.e. one which will enable him to select facts which make him seem the “winner” to anyone not paying close attention to the past 4 years at Charlton. It is probable that few of those he hopes to impress with his acumen have much interest in the EFL!!
I am very concerned that RD will spin this out beyond the patience of the current prospective purchaser(s), and that we will end up stuck with him over the summer, with zero investment, and into next season. The consequences of that do not bear thinking about.
I wasn't 100% sure that protesting was the right thing to do in the first place but I'm surprised that, having decided to protest, CARD would decided not to partially due to the "dramatic improvement on the pitch"' which really means an unqualified manager, in charge because the owner wouldn't countenance anything else, winning a home match against Plymouth. I thought the protests had nothing to do with on the pitch performance?
I think Card have called it right, if it all goes belly up on the pitch between now and the end of the season, then it can’t be blamed on them.
If it was me making decisions if the takeover hasn’t happened by the last Home game, then that would be a time to have a moan and a protest, although I do think it won’t make any difference to Roland, we all know he only takes notice when it’s on his manor.
I do think the fans are being strung along by Roland though, re snippets of takeover talk, he’ll only sell at his price, the man is a fool, albeit a very wealthy one.
If the takeover isn't confirmed by then, the final game against Blackburn could see a major protest - but even then, likely to be unwelcome if we are needing a result to clinch a playoff place.
I wasn't 100% sure that protesting was the right thing to do in the first place but I'm surprised that, having decided to protest, CARD would decided not to partially due to the "dramatic improvement on the pitch"' which really means an unqualified manager, in charge because the owner wouldn't countenance anything else, winning a home match against Plymouth. I thought the protests had nothing to do with on the pitch performance?
That's always been my view and it is one that is shared by many others. But the fact is, for Valley based protests to work they need to have widespread support. If that isn't there there's no point pissing in the wind.
As opposed to one good game I think its more to do with gauging popular support for the protests, something that, vocal minority aside, CARD have, in my opinion, always achieved.
I have also learnt that you cant please everyone and certainly some folk look for minutiae to critisise as they dislike the protesters more than the protests.
When we put out a statement its rightly analysed word by word and the phrase 'dramatic improvement on the pitch'was intended to be a contributary factor as opposed to primary reason. Some people chose to see it as the latter.
I personally believe that a takeover is happening, not to the pace and speed we like yet never the less happening.
The leaving of KR and appointment of LB/JJ was, takeover aside, was a positive step to my mind and Saturday felt like a corner had been turned on the field if not off it. Its clear to me that no-one wants Roland around, even those who were claiming 'he was piling in millions every month' as if what was a good thing over fixing the clear root causes of the clubs demise.
No the protests have never been linked directly to results yet it goes without saying that when we are winning and in chance of promotion the support for protests diminishes among the match going supporter, by the same token a down turn or the appauling tenure under Fraeye gives them mass appeal.
Realistically a win at Northampton on Friday and the protests on Monday would attract a lot of opposition, we then have the Upbeats game, ditto and understandably so that leaves only Blackburn at home.
I still believe he will be gone by then, if he isnt and we are in a playoff chase we will face the same opposition, I hope its a hypothetical scenario.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
Correct decision by CARD. I agree there is an outside chance that bugger all has happened since they announced the intent to protest but I think on the balance of probability, that is not the case. Critically, the replacement of Robbo has halted the apparent slide to nowhere and the football should and has now taken centre stage again.
For me CARD have called it right. If you disagree? Go ahead and protest. No one is stopping you. I suspect that without organisation. The protester fans will probably not bother.
I don’t think the protest at the Valley would have made a blind bit of difference to Roland. He does not give a shit what happens over here. He does however when the protests are in his own backyard. In fact I think we should still protest in Belgium even when he does sell, Upset his way of life like he has done to ours for the last 4 years!
I know a hotel in Belgium that's opening soon, I may book a table for six in the restaurant and see if I can be bothered to turn up.
I wasn't 100% sure that protesting was the right thing to do in the first place but I'm surprised that, having decided to protest, CARD would decided not to partially due to the "dramatic improvement on the pitch"' which really means an unqualified manager, in charge because the owner wouldn't countenance anything else, winning a home match against Plymouth. I thought the protests had nothing to do with on the pitch performance?
Bowyer is a qualified manager according to Cawley.
For the first time ever I find myself not being wholly supportive of a Card statement. Whilst I accept that it was probably the right decision, mainly because there isn't the mood amongst the majority for a demo (as witnessed by a string of posts on here yesterday to that effect).
I'm not sure what tangible evidence we have coming directly from the club that anything has changed. The stories we have are all based on hearsay and rumour. As for the play-offs, this is a complete turnaround. How many times have we said before that it's not about results? Well, it seems that all of a sudden it is. Fickle football fans, eh!
Ah well, not to worry. Card have been magnificent to date. Hopefully their next message will be along the lines of 'Yippee aye ay, we've won the war, now let's get on with the business of rebuilding '.
You know, they could easily have just announced that there would be no protest on Monday.
You can't hold a protest when you know it wouldn't have much backing. It's all about timing.
I do understand that there is no point organising a mass protest if the masses do not have the inclination to support it. To that extent, CARD’s decision is the right one, in my opinion.
HOWEVER, I cannot rid myself of the feeling that the fanbase are being played for fools by the (remains of the) Regime. We threaten to protest, and Murray makes a carefully worded statement to CAS Trust, so it is called off. The natives start getting restless, and a second pacification is issued. No need for a third one yet, because Karl leaves and we have one good game which again dampens the calls for action.
I see nothing which convinces me that the takeover is coming any time soon. Although I accept RD does want to sell, it is no skin off his nose to drag things out a bit if he thinks by doing so circumstances will give him a better sale – i.e. one which will enable him to select facts which make him seem the “winner” to anyone not paying close attention to the past 4 years at Charlton. It is probable that few of those he hopes to impress with his acumen have much interest in the EFL!!
I am very concerned that RD will spin this out beyond the patience of the current prospective purchaser(s), and that we will end up stuck with him over the summer, with zero investment, and into next season. The consequences of that do not bear thinking about.
This.
It worries me that in calling off two protests we are looking more and more apathetic and easily placated. In the likely event that Roland spins this one out for as much money as he can and the takeover is still imminent after the season ends, the likelihood of getting a protest together is even more difficult.
As a boycotter I had planned to come to the Valley on Monday to take part in the protest. I don't believe I am alone in deciding to do this. Let's not become like St Truiden fans, hate Roland but too worn down to protest, this is the very time we need to step up the pressure.
Everyone was fired up and ready for a demo pre-Plymouth. Now Robinson is gone and most fans are focused on trying to push the team into the play-offs.
A protest on Monday would likely get a very very small amount of support and the timing would play right into the hands of the nay-sayers who suggest that protests are a hindrance to the team.
CARD have to follow the mood of the fans to a certain degree and that's what they've done here.
In defence of CARD, it seems that the majority of fans, including myself, think it as question of when rather than if. Also there seem to be reliable reports that the when is reasonably close so the conditions don't really seem ripe for a protest on Monday.
That isn't to say things wont change. And I would imagine if all of this drastically changes, fans are going to be very angry.
If the takeover isn't confirmed by then, the final game against Blackburn could see a major protest - but even then, likely to be unwelcome if we are needing a result to clinch a playoff place.
No way should we protest on the final game, if a positive result could get us in the play offs. It would be totally divisive and irresponsible. Whatever I or anyone says about whether protests effect the result, they MAY do and I doubt most fans would be happy that a protest MAY lead to us missing out on a play off spot.
If the result is meaningless then who cares, but it could alter who gets promoted and CARD would be treading a fine line if they are seen to alter the outcome.
But once again, I'm pretty certain they would understand this, because they always do.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
For me CARD have called it right. If you disagree? Go ahead and protest. No one is stopping you. I suspect that without organisation. The protester fans will probably not bother.
If there was a protest on Monday it would be supported by 2%.!! Sorry for the boycotters because you want to get involved but it would be a damp squib. Maybe arrange a trip to Duchatelet's bunker with a pen so he can sign the contract.
Disappointed that people think we shouldn't protest. One win ffs! No sign of takeover and quite likely Roly is playing silly buggers with the potential buyers. However on the basis of the feeling CARD had no real choice. The Scunthorpe game is the upbeats game so that's a non-protest game so that leaves Blackburn who will be celebrating promotion that day probably.
Good old Charlton, always ready to offer extra seats and congratulate teams being promoted on our last home game. Would be good if another team did the same for us
There is only one team who can possibly help out on that one.............Carlisle United
If the takeover isn't confirmed by then, the final game against Blackburn could see a major protest - but even then, likely to be unwelcome if we are needing a result to clinch a playoff place.
No way should we protest on the final game, if a positive result could get us in the play offs. It would be totally divisive and irresponsible. Whatever I or anyone says about whether protests effect the result, they MAY do and I doubt most fans would be happy that a protest MAY lead to us missing out on a play off spot.
If the result is meaningless then who cares, but it could alter who gets promoted and CARD would be treading a fine line if they are seen to alter the outcome.
But once again, I'm pretty certain they would understand this, because they always do.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
It was the takeover which was going to put him out of a job though.
I don’t think the protest at the Valley would have made a blind bit of difference to Roland. He does not give a shit what happens over here. He does however when the protests are in his own backyard. In fact I think we should still protest in Belgium even when he does sell, Upset his way of life like he has done to ours for the last 4 years!
I know a hotel in Belgium that's opening soon, I may book a table for six in the restaurant and see if I can be bothered to turn up.
Pointless not turning up.
Looking forward to it and being the most obnoxious customer they can ever possibly wish to have.
I have high standards and the owner will not get away from what he's done to his other businesses.
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However on the basis of the feeling CARD had no real choice.
The Scunthorpe game is the upbeats game so that's a non-protest game so that leaves Blackburn who will be celebrating promotion that day probably.
I would do what you want when you want, as I am pretty sure no-one gives a toss but thanks for asking
HOWEVER, I cannot rid myself of the feeling that the fanbase are being played for fools by the (remains of the) Regime. We threaten to protest, and Murray makes a carefully worded statement to CAS Trust, so it is called off. The natives start getting restless, and a second pacification is issued. No need for a third one yet, because Karl leaves and we have one good game which again dampens the calls for action.
I see nothing which convinces me that the takeover is coming any time soon. Although I accept RD does want to sell, it is no skin off his nose to drag things out a bit if he thinks by doing so circumstances will give him a better sale – i.e. one which will enable him to select facts which make him seem the “winner” to anyone not paying close attention to the past 4 years at Charlton. It is probable that few of those he hopes to impress with his acumen have much interest in the EFL!!
I am very concerned that RD will spin this out beyond the patience of the current prospective purchaser(s), and that we will end up stuck with him over the summer, with zero investment, and into next season. The consequences of that do not bear thinking about.
If it was me making decisions if the takeover hasn’t happened by the last Home game, then that would be a time to have a moan and a protest, although I do think it won’t make any difference to Roland, we all know he only takes notice when it’s on his manor.
I do think the fans are being strung along by Roland though, re snippets of takeover talk, he’ll only sell at his price, the man is a fool, albeit a very wealthy one.
If the takeover isn't confirmed by then, the final game against Blackburn could see a major protest - but even then, likely to be unwelcome if we are needing a result to clinch a playoff place.
I have also learnt that you cant please everyone and certainly some folk look for minutiae to critisise as they dislike the protesters more than the protests.
When we put out a statement its rightly analysed word by word and the phrase 'dramatic improvement on the pitch'was intended to be a contributary factor as opposed to primary reason. Some people chose to see it as the latter.
I personally believe that a takeover is happening, not to the pace and speed we like yet never the less happening.
The leaving of KR and appointment of LB/JJ was, takeover aside, was a positive step to my mind and Saturday felt like a corner had been turned on the field if not off it. Its clear to me that no-one wants Roland around, even those who were claiming 'he was piling in millions every month' as if what was a good thing over fixing the clear root causes of the clubs demise.
No the protests have never been linked directly to results yet it goes without saying that when we are winning and in chance of promotion the support for protests diminishes among the match going supporter, by the same token a down turn or the appauling tenure under Fraeye gives them mass appeal.
Realistically a win at Northampton on Friday and the protests on Monday would attract a lot of opposition, we then have the Upbeats game, ditto and understandably so that leaves only Blackburn at home.
I still believe he will be gone by then, if he isnt and we are in a playoff chase we will face the same opposition, I hope its a hypothetical scenario.
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
I suspect that without organisation. The protester fans will probably not bother.
You can't hold a protest when you know it wouldn't have much backing. It's all about timing.
It worries me that in calling off two protests we are looking more and more apathetic and easily placated. In the likely event that Roland spins this one out for as much money as he can and the takeover is still imminent after the season ends, the likelihood of getting a protest together is even more difficult.
As a boycotter I had planned to come to the Valley on Monday to take part in the protest. I don't believe I am alone in deciding to do this. Let's not become like St Truiden fans, hate Roland but too worn down to protest, this is the very time we need to step up the pressure.
A protest on Monday would likely get a very very small amount of support and the timing would play right into the hands of the nay-sayers who suggest that protests are a hindrance to the team.
CARD have to follow the mood of the fans to a certain degree and that's what they've done here.
That isn't to say things wont change. And I would imagine if all of this drastically changes, fans are going to be very angry.
It would be totally divisive and irresponsible.
Whatever I or anyone says about whether protests effect the result, they MAY do and I doubt most fans would be happy that a protest MAY lead to us missing out on a play off spot.
If the result is meaningless then who cares, but it could alter who gets promoted and CARD would be treading a fine line if they are seen to alter the outcome.
But once again, I'm pretty certain they would understand this, because they always do.
Sorry for the boycotters because you want to get involved but it would be a damp squib.
Maybe arrange a trip to Duchatelet's bunker with a pen so he can sign the contract.
Looking forward to it and being the most obnoxious customer they can ever possibly wish to have.
I have high standards and the owner will not get away from what he's done to his other businesses.