The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
It was the takeover which was going to put him out of a job though.
Without the (up-the-road and no bollox) Oxford job coming up he wouldn't have left. His guess as to when the takeover will happen is as good as mine. If he'd stayed on he would have got a pay out if he was chucked out. Instead he chose to leave. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
Disappointed that people think we shouldn't protest. One win ffs! No sign of takeover and quite likely Roly is playing silly buggers with the potential buyers. However on the basis of the feeling CARD had no real choice. The Scunthorpe game is the upbeats game so that's a non-protest game so that leaves Blackburn who will be celebrating promotion that day probably.
Also (if he picks himself obv) hopefully be saying a fond farewell to JJ gracing our Valley pitch as a player for the last time...!!!
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
It was the takeover which was going to put him out of a job though.
Without the (up-the-road and no bollox) Oxford job coming up he wouldn't have left. His guess as to when the takeover will happen is as good as mine. If he'd stayed on he would have got a pay out if he was chucked out. Instead he chose to leave. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
I don’t think there is anyone at the club who believes Duchatelet will own Charlton next season, so that is the context. Robinson, to my knowledge, had been ringing round to try to find out if he would be sacked.
Is it possible that it may get back to RD that two protests have been called off and he may see this as the protests losing support? Some may say he doesn't care about protests, but even if they are only a thorn in his side they should continue IMHO.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
It was the takeover which was going to put him out of a job though.
Without the (up-the-road and no bollox) Oxford job coming up he wouldn't have left. His guess as to when the takeover will happen is as good as mine. If he'd stayed on he would have got a pay out if he was chucked out. Instead he chose to leave. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
He rang the Fleetwood chairman asking for the job there @Arsenetatters
Not exactly up the road.
He jumped because he knew he was unlikely to be kept on especially with his terrible record.
If the club wasn't up for sale Meire and Tarbuck would still be here.
For the first time ever I find myself not being wholly supportive of a Card statement. Whilst I accept that it was probably the right decision, mainly because there isn't the mood amongst the majority for a demo (as witnessed by a string of posts on here yesterday to that effect).
I'm not sure what tangible evidence we have coming directly from the club that anything has changed. The stories we have are all based on hearsay and rumour. As for the play-offs, this is a complete turnaround. How many times have we said before that it's not about results? Well, it seems that all of a sudden it is. Fickle football fans, eh!
Ah well, not to worry. Card have been magnificent to date. Hopefully their next message will be along the lines of 'Yippee aye ay, we've won the war, now let's get on with the business of rebuilding '.
You know, they could easily have just announced that there would be no protest on Monday.
You can't hold a protest when you know it wouldn't have much backing. It's all about timing.
True. If it was just the decision, I'd have been happier. But the Card justification looks like backtracking on what was once a resolute argument that it's about the regime not the results. Sometimes less is more.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
It was the takeover which was going to put him out of a job though.
Without the (up-the-road and no bollox) Oxford job coming up he wouldn't have left. His guess as to when the takeover will happen is as good as mine. If he'd stayed on he would have got a pay out if he was chucked out. Instead he chose to leave. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
He rang the Fleetwood chairman asking for the job there @Arsenetatters
Not exactly up the road.
He jumped because he knew he was unlikely to be kept on especially with his terrible record.
If the club wasn't up for sale Meire and Tarbuck would still be here.
OK, fair point , I didn't know about the Fleetwood job.
Yes the club is up for sale, but the decision on when it will be sold is up to Roland. It's my view that he will take his time and try to squeeze every pound out. The buyers may get fed up and pull out. We need to protest until he's gone (IMHO).
If there was a protest on Monday it would be supported by 2%.!! Sorry for the boycotters because you want to get involved but it would be a damp squib. Maybe arrange a trip to Duchatelet's bunker with a pen so he can sign the contract.
Yes, it seems like some boycotters want to protest, because they want to get involved with Charlton and it's the only way they can, as they refuse to attend matches. Perhaps sometimes a step back is required. .
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
Even though Johnnie Jackson said today that KR left because of the impending takeover ?
If there was a protest on Monday it would be supported by 2%.!! Sorry for the boycotters because you want to get involved but it would be a damp squib. Maybe arrange a trip to Duchatelet's bunker with a pen so he can sign the contract.
Yes, it seems like some boycotters want to protest, because they want to get involved with Charlton and it's the only way they can, as they refuse to attend matches. Perhaps sometimes a step back is required. .
Well given the number of people who said they'd boycott home matches but still follow the team away I expect about 20,000 Addicks to travel to Northampton on Good Friday to get a glimpse of Bowyer's Charlton!
If there was a protest on Monday it would be supported by 2%.!! Sorry for the boycotters because you want to get involved but it would be a damp squib. Maybe arrange a trip to Duchatelet's bunker with a pen so he can sign the contract.
Yes, it seems like some boycotters want to protest, because they want to get involved with Charlton and it's the only way they can, as they refuse to attend matches. Perhaps sometimes a step back is required. .
Well given the number of people who said they'd boycott home matches but still follow the team away I expect about 20,000 Addicks to travel to Northampton on Good Friday to get a glimpse of Bowyer's Charlton!
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
Even though Johnnie Jackson said today that KR left because of the impending takeover ?
OK, I didn't know about Fleetwood or what JJ had said.
I don't think the takeover is impending but I hope you're right.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
Even though Johnnie Jackson said today that KR left because of the impending takeover ?
OK, I didn't know about Fleetwood or what JJ had said.
I don't think the takeover is impending but I hope you're right.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
Even though Johnnie Jackson said today that KR left because of the impending takeover ?
OK, I didn't know about Fleetwood or what JJ had said.
I don't think the takeover is impending but I hope you're right.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
It was the takeover which was going to put him out of a job though.
Without the (up-the-road and no bollox) Oxford job coming up he wouldn't have left. His guess as to when the takeover will happen is as good as mine. If he'd stayed on he would have got a pay out if he was chucked out. Instead he chose to leave. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
He rang the Fleetwood chairman asking for the job there @Arsenetatters
Not exactly up the road.
He jumped because he knew he was unlikely to be kept on especially with his terrible record.
If the club wasn't up for sale Meire and Tarbuck would still be here.
OK, fair point , I didn't know about the Fleetwood job.
Yes the club is up for sale, but the decision on when it will be sold is up to Roland. It's my view that he will take his time and try to squeeze every pound out. The buyers may get fed up and pull out. We need to protest until he's gone (IMHO).
Why didn't we protest against Slater & Jimenez who were also bad owners ?
Answer, because they wanted out and were trying to sell, so it would have been pointless.
We are not in a dissimilar situation. RD wants out and is trying to sell. The only difference is he's not potless and can afford to wait a bit longer, but he can't wait too long, as he's losing £1M per month.
If you're insistent on protesting in the next 6 weeks, then it's best done in Belgium, where you can't effect the results or be accused of effecting the results, whilst we have a slim chance of the play offs and promotion.
I've never subscribed to wanting Charlton to lose or be in a worse league position because I dislike/despise the owner.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
It was the takeover which was going to put him out of a job though.
Without the (up-the-road and no bollox) Oxford job coming up he wouldn't have left. His guess as to when the takeover will happen is as good as mine. If he'd stayed on he would have got a pay out if he was chucked out. Instead he chose to leave. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
He rang the Fleetwood chairman asking for the job there @Arsenetatters
Not exactly up the road.
He jumped because he knew he was unlikely to be kept on especially with his terrible record.
If the club wasn't up for sale Meire and Tarbuck would still be here.
OK, fair point , I didn't know about the Fleetwood job.
Yes the club is up for sale, but the decision on when it will be sold is up to Roland. It's my view that he will take his time and try to squeeze every pound out. The buyers may get fed up and pull out. We need to protest until he's gone (IMHO).
Then, with all due respect, protest.
CARD can't make or stop anyone from protesting if they want to.
My view from the outside was that there was little enthusiasm for more protests and the CARD statement was more of a reminder to Duchatelet that they hadn't gone away.
As it turned out Tarbuck made up the nonsense about the takeover being up in the air anyway.
The Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) has withdrawn its plans to protest against the current ownership of Charlton Athletic at the Easter Monday game against Rotherham United. CARD said there had been significant developments since its previous announcement two weeks ago. That followed then manager Karl Robinson’s comments to the media suggesting a takeover might be delayed indefinitely.
A CARD spokesperson said: “Although we have not received the firm evidence of a takeover that we wanted, things have moved on and we no longer think it is appropriate to take action on Easter Monday.
“Karl Robinson’s departure as manager is clearly linked to the takeover, which is now being widely reported by mainstream media as imminent.
“Public and private sources suggest there is no reason to think that Duchatelet himself intends to be owner of Charlton for much longer.
“In addition, we believe the change of manager and subsequent dramatic improvement on the pitch last Saturday have revived fans’ hopes that the team could still be promoted via the play-offs.
“While we don’t respond to individual results, the team’s status next season is clearly significant to the club’s long-term future, which is our main concern. And we believe most Charlton fans would regard trying to get promoted as the immediate priority they can usefully influence."
Is it? I assumed it was because he wanted the Oxford job.
It was because he wanted A job. I thought everyone understood that he left, so he would have a job.
Indeed. He wanted A job, and Oxford was a great one - right on his doorstep, and without all the bollox going on at Charlton. So, IMHO, not linked to the takeover.
Remember also that it has been widely reported that Robinson had been promised a transfer kitty in January if we were in with a chance of promotion that was then withheld because of the intention to sell the club. He may have been barking mad to believe it, as such lies have been a regular feature under Duchatelet and Meire, but I think it was that which brought Robinson to a clearer understanding of Duchatlet's modus operandi. Plus, as others have said, he would shortly have been out of a job. No way he would have been interested in taking the Oxford job had things been stable at Charlton.
Rather than try to answer each bit, my view is that -
I think we should have protested on Monday. The takeover has not happened. If the true reason we are not protesting is that we don't have enough support then that is more worrying. We now have very little opportunity to protest at home before the end of the season.
It has been, and still is, my view that the only person truly ITK is Roland. It is also my view that he will hold on for as much money as he can. That may result in buyers walking away. Until he has fully gone we should protest.
If the takeover isn't confirmed by then, the final game against Blackburn could see a major protest - but even then, likely to be unwelcome if we are needing a result to clinch a playoff place.
No way should we protest on the final game, if a positive result could get us in the play offs. It would be totally divisive and irresponsible. Whatever I or anyone says about whether protests effect the result, they MAY do and I doubt most fans would be happy that a protest MAY lead to us missing out on a play off spot.
If the result is meaningless then who cares, but it could alter who gets promoted and CARD would be treading a fine line if they are seen to alter the outcome.
But once again, I'm pretty certain they would understand this, because they always do.
Rather than try to answer each bit, my view is that -
I think we should have protested on Monday. The takeover has not happened. If the true reason we are not protesting is that we don't have enough support then that is more worrying. We now have very little opportunity to protest at home before the end of the season.
It has been, and still is, my view that the only person truly ITK is Roland. It is also my view that he will hold on for as much money as he can. That may result in buyers walking away. Until he has fully gone we should protest.
Fair enough. So start a new thread on here and elsewhere, send a few tweets out, say you're leading the protests for Monday and if you're in touch with the fans feelings, they'll all be with you. Good luck
Rather than try to answer each bit, my view is that -
I think we should have protested on Monday. The takeover has not happened. If the true reason we are not protesting is that we don't have enough support then that is more worrying. We now have very little opportunity to protest at home before the end of the season.
It has been, and still is, my view that the only person truly ITK is Roland. It is also my view that he will hold on for as much money as he can. That may result in buyers walking away. Until he has fully gone we should protest.
Fair enough. So start a new thread on here and elsewhere, send a few tweets out, say you're leading the protests for Monday and if you're in touch with the fans feelings, they'll all be with you. Good luck
Ok but my worry is that I'm clearly not in touch with the fans feelings - ie no one wants to protest. Not because Karl left due to the takeover but because the appetite to protest isn't there. That's what I find worrying.
Rather than try to answer each bit, my view is that -
I think we should have protested on Monday. The takeover has not happened. If the true reason we are not protesting is that we don't have enough support then that is more worrying. We now have very little opportunity to protest at home before the end of the season.
It has been, and still is, my view that the only person truly ITK is Roland. It is also my view that he will hold on for as much money as he can. That may result in buyers walking away. Until he has fully gone we should protest.
Fair enough. So start a new thread on here and elsewhere, send a few tweets out, say you're leading the protests for Monday and if you're in touch with the fans feelings, they'll all be with you. Good luck
Ok but my worry is that I'm clearly not in touch with the fans feelings - ie no one wants to protest. Not because Karl left due to the takeover but because the appetite to protest isn't there. That's what I find worrying.
There's a time and a place for everything, it's all about the correct timing.
I'm not into protesting for protesting sake. I need to have a good reason and it needs to be done at the right time and in the correct manner.
Did you go to the Plymouth game ?
Did you feel the great atmosphere, the positive atmosphere ?
If you did I can't see how you don't understand. If you didn't, then I can totally understand.
Rather than try to answer each bit, my view is that -
I think we should have protested on Monday. The takeover has not happened. If the true reason we are not protesting is that we don't have enough support then that is more worrying. We now have very little opportunity to protest at home before the end of the season.
It has been, and still is, my view that the only person truly ITK is Roland. It is also my view that he will hold on for as much money as he can. That may result in buyers walking away. Until he has fully gone we should protest.
Fair enough. So start a new thread on here and elsewhere, send a few tweets out, say you're leading the protests for Monday and if you're in touch with the fans feelings, they'll all be with you. Good luck
Ok but my worry is that I'm clearly not in touch with the fans feelings - ie no one wants to protest. Not because Karl left due to the takeover but because the appetite to protest isn't there. That's what I find worrying.
There's a time and a place for everything, it's all about the correct timing.
I'm not into protesting for protesting sake. I need to have a good reason and it needs to be done at the right time and in the correct manner.
Did you go to the Plymouth game ?
Did you feel the great atmosphere, the positive atmosphere ?
If you did I can't see how you don't understand. If you didn't, then I can totally understand.
I didn't as I'm boycotting. I'm glad you understand, Roland has created enough division amongst fans already.
I’m not sure I get why you are labouring your point @Arsenetatters . As far as I’m aware, you don’t go to games. Was you planning to change that on Monday? As it seems to me that those largely offering dissenting views had no intention of being anywhere near The Valley on Monday.
Protests for protests sake are rarely successfully and rarely maintain any longevity.
There’s arguments for and against on whether CARD were right to call a return to protests, and equally whether having done so they were right to then cancel both times. For some, whatever they do will be wrong (either through dislike of individuals or the just silly politics of other groups), others like @Covered End think they have a pretty good track of in the end ‘calling it right’. I think on balance there are many that echo what @Covered End says.
Roland has not gone but it’s clear that he is now unlikely to be a long-term likelihood on us. Things have gone too far now in terms of his detachment and Meire goIng was the final nail. If come the summer there is evidence that might change (no sale and rumour of further parties walking away) then we should all look at it again and regroup
But imo people need to start falling in love with Charlton again. The chances are the longer they leave it the less likely it is to happen.
I’m not sure I get why you are labouring your point @Arsenetatters . As far as I’m aware, you don’t go to games. Was you planning to change that on Monday? As it seems to me that those largely offering dissenting views had no intention of being anywhere near The Valley on Monday.
Protests for protests sake are rarely successfully and rarely maintain any longevity.
There’s arguments for and against on whether CARD were right to call a return to protests, and equally whether having done so they were right to then cancel both times. For some, whatever they do will be wrong (either through dislike of individuals or the just silly politics of other groups), others like @Covered End think they have a pretty good track of in the end ‘calling it right’. I think on balance there are many that echo what @Covered End says.
Roland has not gone but it’s clear that he is now unlikely to be a long-term likelihood on us. Things have gone too far now in terms of his detachment and Meire goIng was the final nail. If come the summer there is evidence that might change (no sale and rumour of further parties walking away) then we should all look at it again and regroup
But imo people need to start falling in love with Charlton again. The chances are the longer they leave it the less likely it is to happen.
As I said in a previous post (somewhere above!) I was planning on coming on Monday to protest.
I've seen a few posts saying the protests have been cancelled because of one good result against Plymouth.
Thing is it goes a bit deeper than one good result.
Anyone who watched our pathetic display up at Blackpool - including me will tell you how awful and flat the performance was it was right to say then our season is over. We now know why the performance was so limp with KR wanting out himself but he's gone now and that wasn't necessarily a given that he would go after the next game which meant it wasn't unreasonable to think the poor performances would continue as they did the next game against Fleetwood.
But now we have Bowyer leading the team we look completely re-energized and with most results going our way over the weekend we do again have a slim chance of the play offs given we have teams around us to play. I think you had to be at Blackpool though to really see the difference in the performance there and the Plymouth game to accept circumstances are now completely different now to what they were then.
CARD were correct IMO to resume the protests but the mistake made was to resume them at The Valley. Protests at The Valley now are pointless, RD is in the process of selling, what he still needs is a reminder in his own back yard that we haven't gone away and that he should look to sell ASAP. Protests at home in the past have worked but now would have very limited success with no RD or KM at the ground anymore and RM's hand forced into the occasional wooly statements, who would we be protesting at apart from making us all feel a bit better?
My opinion for what it's worth is to keep the protests going but for CARD and the B20 to work together and keep them going in Belgium and not at The Valley.
I’m not sure I get why you are labouring your point @Arsenetatters . As far as I’m aware, you don’t go to games. Was you planning to change that on Monday? As it seems to me that those largely offering dissenting views had no intention of being anywhere near The Valley on Monday.
Protests for protests sake are rarely successfully and rarely maintain any longevity.
There’s arguments for and against on whether CARD were right to call a return to protests, and equally whether having done so they were right to then cancel both times. For some, whatever they do will be wrong (either through dislike of individuals or the just silly politics of other groups), others like @Covered End think they have a pretty good track of in the end ‘calling it right’. I think on balance there are many that echo what @Covered End says.
Roland has not gone but it’s clear that he is now unlikely to be a long-term likelihood on us. Things have gone too far now in terms of his detachment and Meire goIng was the final nail. If come the summer there is evidence that might change (no sale and rumour of further parties walking away) then we should all look at it again and regroup
But imo people need to start falling in love with Charlton again. The chances are the longer they leave it the less likely it is to happen.
As I said in a previous post (somewhere above!) I was planning on coming on Monday to protest.
If we win at Northampton or at least get a point, why not come on Monday and support the team, it might cheer you up ?
(Ok it's Charlton we'll lose and you'll be miserable, but hey it's Charlton and we're not glory boys/girls).
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Not exactly up the road.
He jumped because he knew he was unlikely to be kept on especially with his terrible record.
If the club wasn't up for sale Meire and Tarbuck would still be here.
OK, fair point , I didn't know about the Fleetwood job.
Yes the club is up for sale, but the decision on when it will be sold is up to Roland. It's my view that he will take his time and try to squeeze every pound out. The buyers may get fed up and pull out. We need to protest until he's gone (IMHO).
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I don't think the takeover is impending but I hope you're right.
Answer, because they wanted out and were trying to sell, so it would have been pointless.
We are not in a dissimilar situation. RD wants out and is trying to sell. The only difference is he's not potless and can afford to wait a bit longer, but he can't wait too long, as he's losing £1M per month.
If you're insistent on protesting in the next 6 weeks, then it's best done in Belgium, where you can't effect the results or be accused of effecting the results, whilst we have a slim chance of the play offs and promotion.
I've never subscribed to wanting Charlton to lose or be in a worse league position because I dislike/despise the owner.
CARD can't make or stop anyone from protesting if they want to.
My view from the outside was that there was little enthusiasm for more protests and the CARD statement was more of a reminder to Duchatelet that they hadn't gone away.
As it turned out Tarbuck made up the nonsense about the takeover being up in the air anyway.
Rather than try to answer each bit, my view is that -
I think we should have protested on Monday. The takeover has not happened. If the true reason we are not protesting is that we don't have enough support then that is more worrying. We now have very little opportunity to protest at home before the end of the season.
It has been, and still is, my view that the only person truly ITK is Roland. It is also my view that he will hold on for as much money as he can. That may result in buyers walking away. Until he has fully gone we should protest.
I'm not into protesting for protesting sake. I need to have a good reason and it needs to be done at the right time and in the correct manner.
Did you go to the Plymouth game ?
Did you feel the great atmosphere, the positive atmosphere ?
If you did I can't see how you don't understand. If you didn't, then I can totally understand.
Protests for protests sake are rarely successfully and rarely maintain any longevity.
There’s arguments for and against on whether CARD were right to call a return to protests, and equally whether having done so they were right to then cancel both times. For some, whatever they do will be wrong (either through dislike of individuals or the just silly politics of other groups), others like @Covered End think they have a pretty good track of in the end ‘calling it right’. I think on balance there are many that echo what @Covered End says.
Roland has not gone but it’s clear that he is now unlikely to be a long-term likelihood on us. Things have gone too far now in terms of his detachment and Meire goIng was the final nail. If come the summer there is evidence that might change (no sale and rumour of further parties walking away) then we should all look at it again and regroup
But imo people need to start falling in love with Charlton again. The chances are the longer they leave it the less likely it is to happen.
Thing is it goes a bit deeper than one good result.
Anyone who watched our pathetic display up at Blackpool - including me will tell you how awful and flat the performance was it was right to say then our season is over. We now know why the performance was so limp with KR wanting out himself but he's gone now and that wasn't necessarily a given that he would go after the next game which meant it wasn't unreasonable to think the poor performances would continue as they did the next game against Fleetwood.
But now we have Bowyer leading the team we look completely re-energized and with most results going our way over the weekend we do again have a slim chance of the play offs given we have teams around us to play. I think you had to be at Blackpool though to really see the difference in the performance there and the Plymouth game to accept circumstances are now completely different now to what they were then.
CARD were correct IMO to resume the protests but the mistake made was to resume them at The Valley. Protests at The Valley now are pointless, RD is in the process of selling, what he still needs is a reminder in his own back yard that we haven't gone away and that he should look to sell ASAP. Protests at home in the past have worked but now would have very limited success with no RD or KM at the ground anymore and RM's hand forced into the occasional wooly statements, who would we be protesting at apart from making us all feel a bit better?
My opinion for what it's worth is to keep the protests going but for CARD and the B20 to work together and keep them going in Belgium and not at The Valley.
(Ok it's Charlton we'll lose and you'll be miserable, but hey it's Charlton and we're not glory boys/girls).